James Arryn Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 23 minutes ago, Squab said: Esteban Santiago signed up for Myspace under the name Aashiq Hammad and was recording music there such as a song called "La ilaha illAllah" roughly translated to "There is no God but Allah". This was 3 years before he was deployed. He recently complained to the FBI about being forced to fight for Islamic state. FBI has not ruled out terrorism as a motive. Have they ruled out government mind control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Squab said: Esteban Santiago signed up for Myspace under the name Aashiq Hammad and was recording music there such as a song called "La ilaha illAllah" roughly translated to "There is no God but Allah". This was 3 years before he was deployed. He recently complained to the FBI about being forced to fight for Islamic state. FBI has not ruled out terrorism as a motive. Anything from a real news source? http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-fort-lauderdale-shooter-20170108-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Bahaha , ive posted "A is for Allah" on music threads myself (its a Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam song). A key chorus is "There is no God but Allah" (La ilaha illAllah) Its hardly evidence someone is a jihadist. Maybe anyone posting Yusuf's childrens songs needs to be put on the terror watchlist? Dont listen to this, it will implicate you as a jihadist- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Listen. Cat Stevens has some killer songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Honestly, what this event tells us is that veterans need to be put on no fly lists and maybe even prevented from entering the country if they leave. No international vacations for vets. Veterans need to be looked at with a measure of suspicion and assumed to be terrorists or tied to terrorism until proven innocent (which will never happen). Definitely no guns for vets (ok, I'm not be sarcastic about that one. Guns are dumb). And for fuck's sake if they ever listen to music or explore other religions, burn them at the cross! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squab Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/17/us/fort-lauderdale-shooter-isis-claim/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, Squab said: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/17/us/fort-lauderdale-shooter-isis-claim/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/06/us/fort-lauderdale-airport-shooting-suspect/index.html He was not of a sound mind. Do you believe this confirms your already held beliefs that you previous posted about without any legitimate sourcing? Quote Esteban Santiago needed help after he returned from a tour in Iraq a changed man, his brother said Saturday. But Bryan Santiago said his brother didn't get the help he needed. Esteban Santiago's aunt said her nephew talked about the destruction he witnessed. About the killing of children. Visions that haunted him. "His mind was not right," Maria Ruiz Rivera told CNN in a phone interview from her home in New Jersey. "He seemed normal at times, but other times he seemed lost. He changed." Bryan Santiago, who lives in Puerto Rico, said his brother asked authorities for help. "And they did nothing. They had him hospitalized for four days, and then they let him go. How are you going to let someone leave a psychological center after four days when he is saying that he is hearing voices?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 41 minutes ago, Squab said: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/17/us/fort-lauderdale-shooter-isis-claim/index.html Federal authorities in Alaska said Santiago told them prior to the attack that he was hearing voices and that his mind was being controlled by the CIA. Santiago initially made similar claims during an interrogation following the shooting, but once he was transferred to the FBI office in Miramar, Florida, Santiago introduced the ISIS claim and never again mentioned mind control, Ferlazzo testified. Interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squab Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Of course he was not of sound mind, he believes in sky faeries and was shooting people in the name of Islam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 13 hours ago, Squab said: Of course he was not of sound mind, he believes in sky faeries and was shooting people in the name of Islam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 He may be a ptsd sufferer but he wont be able to avoid prosecution for this attack (as in using the insanity defense). The prosecution will nail him for premeditation over his stowing that weapon, retrieving it, and then using it in a calculated manner. Insanity defenses always fail when the prosecution can show premeditation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, DireWolfSpirit said: He may be a ptsd sufferer but he wont be able to avoid prosecution for this attack (as in using the insanity defense). The prosecution will nail him for premeditation over his stowing that weapon, retrieving it, and then using it in a calculated manner. Insanity defenses always fail when the prosecution can show premeditation. My understanding (wiki...) is that the mental disorder defense refers to episodic or persistent psychiatric disease. I'm not sure what time-frame is considered 'episodic' or how persistent disease could differ from mental disease preventing a defendant from contributing to their own defense (unfit to be tried). I would guess that it would depend on psychiatric evaluation and prior diagnoses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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