kuenjato Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 so what's the word on this? An improvement on the first, or about the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylvs Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 On 5/10/2019 at 6:33 PM, Lord Varys said: Yes, Hide contents Pasevalles is Akhenabi's pet, and he has basically no clue what Utuk'ku wants to do - just as most of the Norns themselves ;-). The idea that she lost her mind or Akhenabi or other are doing things she doesn't want to do also seems to be dead, in my opinion. She just doesn't allow anyone to get the full picture to prevent anyone from figuring out that she wants to kill them all along with humanity. Because that was her plan the entire time - if she has to die eventually everybody else will go with her. And that's why she is going to bring 'Unbeing' to Osten Ard. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ded As Ned Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 I want to clickety click those spoilers, but I'm only a couple chapters in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 On 16 May 2019 at 10:11 PM, kuenjato said: so what's the word on this? An improvement on the first, or about the same? An improvement. Pretty good, in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted May 26, 2019 Author Share Posted May 26, 2019 2 hours ago, SeanF said: An improvement. Pretty good, in fact. We are definitely beyond the “introduction” phase that can take a while in William’s books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ded As Ned Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I'm still only about 10% in... haven't had much reading time lately but next week I'm going on vacation and plan to devour it. Liking what I've read so far. I def find Pasevalles to be the character I want to read about more. (Edit: not sure what's going on with the formatting here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion of the West Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Damn, I almost missed this. But now I've ordered the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argonath Diver Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Argh, I said I'd wait to read the first til this one was near release, and suddenly I've a backlog of other stuff I can't find time to finish. The perils of nice weather season, my bookreading goes to shit. Glad to hear the vague positive vibes so far. I didnt mind the glacial pace of the buildups to his series. Just love the prose and his characters, while arguably often fitting into some standard archetypes, generally get a satisfying emotional reaction out of me. The finale of the original series may have been a bit saccharine, but screw it, I remember my jaw quivering like I had frostbite when Rachel got to see Simon back. I read my Abercrombie and Lawrence and brutal murderin' antiheroes, but I'm still an old softie underneath. Hope to get to it this summer; I imagine I'll have to tread carefully in this thread once more readers finish this new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 12 hours ago, Argonath Diver said: Argh, I said I'd wait to read the first til this one was near release, and suddenly I've a backlog of other stuff I can't find time to finish. The perils of nice weather season, my bookreading goes to shit. Glad to hear the vague positive vibes so far. I didnt mind the glacial pace of the buildups to his series. Just love the prose and his characters, while arguably often fitting into some standard archetypes, generally get a satisfying emotional reaction out of me. The finale of the original series may have been a bit saccharine, but screw it, I remember my jaw quivering like I had frostbite when Rachel got to see Simon back. I read my Abercrombie and Lawrence and brutal murderin' antiheroes, but I'm still an old softie underneath. Hope to get to it this summer; I imagine I'll have to tread carefully in this thread once more readers finish this new one. As to the saccharine nature of the end of the original series I will only say that while I’m 3/4 of the way through this book I have read the last two pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 16 hours ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: As to the saccharine nature of the end of the original series I will only say that while I’m 3/4 of the way through this book Hide contents I have read the last two pages. Williams doesn't give us wall to wall brutality, but bad things do happen to decent people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ded As Ned Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 I'm about 250 pages in now. Thoroughly enjoying this book and I think this is some of Williams' best work. I have lots of questions I want to discuss, but a fear of spoilers leaves me to rafo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGP Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 I'm about [checks] ...65% in and I'm not really feeling it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 5 hours ago, JEORDHl said: I'm about [checks] ...65% in and I'm not really feeling it yet. Felt that way throughout TWC, so I'm afraid to start this second volume. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argonath Diver Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I feel like plenty of posters here and RL pals outside all said the Dragonbone Chair started out dreadfully slow and all that, but I absolutely loved that series. I haven't touched the Witchwood Crown yet. Are you guys saying you aren't feeling it, whereas you were definitely feeling the original trilogy by this point? Or perhaps its on the same very slow burn from that series? I enjoyed the original series (and Otherland) enough that I'll absolutely fall into these new books. I'll be a bit sad if the response through two full releases is generally tepid, but I think even then I'll still hope for the best. I hope Williams' patient prose is enough to keep me satisfied, even if these books are lackluster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGP Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I can't really process until I'm done [no question I'll finish, I loved the first trilogy] but maybe it's bearing the brunt of some nostalgic expectations? Not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Argonath Diver said: I feel like plenty of posters here and RL pals outside all said the Dragonbone Chair started out dreadfully slow and all that, but I absolutely loved that series. I haven't touched the Witchwood Crown yet. Are you guys saying you aren't feeling it, whereas you were definitely feeling the original trilogy by this point? Or perhaps its on the same very slow burn from that series? I enjoyed the original series (and Otherland) enough that I'll absolutely fall into these new books. I'll be a bit sad if the response through two full releases is generally tepid, but I think even then I'll still hope for the best. I hope Williams' patient prose is enough to keep me satisfied, even if these books are lackluster. I'm quite happy with both books. Reading A Brightness Long Ago straight after Empire of Grass shows that Kay is in a different league, but that doesn't make the latter a mediocre book, by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ded As Ned Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Opinions will differ... I didn't really enjoy TWC as much but it was because the story was not what I expected... although it was what I expected from Williams as a volume to set the table, and my issues with the Hikedaya culture which I've gotten used to over time. I'm really enjoying the 2nd book as I've stated above, Others feel differently of course. When I first read MST as a teenager, when it was first released, I thought it was the best thing since LotR... on a reread 25 years later... I find it decent and enjoyable, but not the upper echelons of modern fantasy... yet Williams was one who paved the way for so many other great writers in the decades since, and for that I think it's an important series. If anyone likes MST, I think it unlikely you'd regret reading these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 20 hours ago, Argonath Diver said: I feel like plenty of posters here and RL pals outside all said the Dragonbone Chair started out dreadfully slow and all that, but I absolutely loved that series. I haven't touched the Witchwood Crown yet. Are you guys saying you aren't feeling it, whereas you were definitely feeling the original trilogy by this point? Or perhaps its on the same very slow burn from that series? I enjoyed the original series (and Otherland) enough that I'll absolutely fall into these new books. I'll be a bit sad if the response through two full releases is generally tepid, but I think even then I'll still hope for the best. I hope Williams' patient prose is enough to keep me satisfied, even if these books are lackluster. This one is really good. Well past the intro that The Witchwood Crown is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Well I just finished my reread of To Green Angel Tower and I still love the ever living fuck out of MST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuenjato Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Picked both this and Witchwood Crown up from the library this afternoon. I really should be focusing my free time on developing my teaching curriculum for next year, but... sometimes one needs a break. I'll give some overall impressions, how the books work (or don't), and comparisons to the original series when I'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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