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On 6/19/2017 at 11:01 PM, Darth Richard II said:

Ignoring arguments of what is and isn't awesome and definition of grimdark, you got a link to that list or group or whatever? The only thing my search turns up is a website that hasn;t been updated in over a year.

Thankfully, we don't sweat the details too much there.

Grimdark is anything suitably gritty and dark among fantasy and sci-fi.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/grimdarkfiction/
 
To also give a sense where its politics lay, the group is celebrating Gay Pride right now.

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Still reading so i've avoided the rest of the posts, am i supposed to be able to tell who any of the characters are, it seems like they are all completely forgettable and interchangeable.

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23 hours ago, BigFatCoward said:

Still reading so i've avoided the rest of the posts, am i supposed to be able to tell who any of the characters are, it seems like they are all completely forgettable and interchangeable.

I guess the plus of the audiobook is that the narrator gives all the characters very distinct accents which maybe masks this?

21 hours ago, Let's Get Kraken said:

So, Lawrence is dropping some pretty strong hints via Facebook that we're going to be getting a new Jalan story...

The fourth one, if not Jalan, sounds very much like him.

 

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On 7/9/2017 at 0:39 PM, red snow said:

The fourth one, if not Jalan, sounds very much like him.

 

Indeed it does. :lol: 

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I was weak the other day so I ordered the signed/numbered illustrated hardback omnibus of the Broken Empire Trilogy.  Had a Jorge short story in there.  I have yet to take time to read that, but I should.  I have put all novels on hold for now while waiting for Unholy Consult so I don't have to put something down mid-stream.  Now that I think about it, that's the perfect time to revisit Honorous Jorge.

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5 hours ago, Let's Get Kraken said:

I mean he came out and said we'd met the person in scenario #4 already. I cannot imagine who else it could be :D

I like ot call a spade a spade :)

It says a lot for his writing/characterisation for it to seem like Jalan before the second clue pretty much sealed it.

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Read that Jorg short story last night.  "No Second Troy"

Its set after King of Thorns and before Emperor of Thorns and details the conquest of a walled city in the middle of a river in Orlanth.  It was really good and everything still fit within the narrative without seeming gratuitous.

 

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Finally got round to reading this. I love a magic school story so it worked for me. It was basically a (much better imo) version of Blood Song...


It did get a bit predictable in places- there's only so many ways you can subvert a magic school story- but there were some nice touches, like how

the obvious Malfoy/Ambrose figure turned out to be perfectly fine and normal, or how the Potions- sorry, poisons- master had a scary front but ended up being fairly reasonable and more of a comedy figure from the reader's perspective than anything.


Also: the world is great.

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Finished it last night.  I really wish someone would put a disclaimer on the first 4 or 5 pages of this topic telling them to skip ahead to reach actual discussion. :lol: 

Agree that I was picturing Laura/X-23 the whole time.  I really liked the setting and the world feels interesting to me.  I remember when I first heard about the book being “Battle Nuns in a new setting” I was disappointed and wondered why he couldn’t just find an unexplored corner of the Broken Empire to place his Battle Nuns; but the world of Abeth is really unique and interesting.

I’m also looking forward to seeing more of the interplay of the bigger politics between Sherzal and Crucical.

Grey Sister will be out fairly soon.  It will be the first Lawrence that I have been able to read at time of release since I came a bit late to his work.  He has rapidly become one of my favorite authors.  I enjoy following him on Facebook and I will echo the earlier sentiment in this thread that it’s a damn shame the mods ran him off from here.

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From a new interview:

https://thatthornguy.com/2018/01/25/that-thorn-guy-third-birthday-interview-with-mark-lawrence/

Although you finished writing the series in 2016, you haven’t completely left the world of Abeth behind. What can you tell us about the new book you started writing and is set in the same world?

I’m working on a trilogy set around the same time out on the ice that covers more than 99% of Abeth. I’m about half way through the first book, though I have put it on hold recently in order to work on a different project with a more immanent deadline.

The main character is a young woman belonging to one of the ice tribes. Things go very wrong for her very quickly, and the rest will be history … once I’ve written it.

 

The story’s plot is already a lot stronger and more complex than the plot of Red Sister. Not to mention that the first paragraph of the prologue is my most favourite opening of any book ever. I can’t wait for readers to be able to see it for themselves. Any chance, that as you did for Red Sister, you might share this prologue or at least part of it on your blog prior to publication, too? When is the book likely to come out?

I imagine that the book will hit ‘a good bookshop near you’ some time in 2020. Which still sounds like a sci-fi distant future date to me even though we are barrelling towards it.

I probably will share something from the book as it gets nearer to the time, but after Holy Sister is out.

 

That is a long wait again. How about this other project you mentioned? Can you tell us anything about that?

I can! After years of being asked in interviews “You’re a scientist, so why aren’t you writing science fiction instead trampling our fantasy lawn with your big ugly science boots?” I actually had my first ever go at science fiction!

It’s not exactly spaceships and laser cannons in a distant future though. In fact it’s set in the 1980s and centres on a D&D group. It does, however, contain some fictional science.

The book is called Power Word Kill and has sold to a well known publisher in a three book deal! So now I’m busy working on book 2, Limited Wish. The plan is to release the trilogy in fairly swift order. I think all three might come out in 2019, certainly the first two.

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20 hours ago, Lord Patrek said:

Just finished Grey Sister and it's one of my favorite Lawrence books, second only to The Liar's Key!

You can read the review here.

Glad to hear!

Have mine pre-ordered

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On 4/5/2017 at 11:11 AM, Sheep the Evicted said:

Couldn't think of a better word. First i thought Traditional, but its grimdark which isn't so traditional so lets say fantasy that isn't obsessed with Inclusivity ? Fantasy that isn't inclusivity-porn ? Non-cis-white-male bashing  fantasy ? Im not sure if my terminology is up to date but you get the idea.

Do you mean fantasy that actually affirms masculinity to some degree rather than trying to make it questionable all the time?

Inclusivity doesn't have to be something that questions all masculinity.

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10 hours ago, Darth Richard II said:

...why is this a topic again

Well... it’s been almost a year since the quotes post was made.  What is old is new again.

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