oberonus Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 20 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Good grief. So, if only a small number of people know what it means why the hell did he tweet it to the entire planet? :facepalm: He just cant stop himself from leaking to the world for covfefe's sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGimletEye Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Sometimes I wonder if the Republican Party is just saying: "Oh yeah, you thought Dubya was bad? Well, we'll show you!!! Wait until you get a fuckin' load of this guy!!!" http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/our-allies-alarm-trumps-foreign-policy-vision-takes-shape Quote This morning, for example, White House National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster and White House National Economic Council Director Gary Cohn wrote a Wall Street Journal op-ed in which they made a provocative case: The president embarked on his first foreign trip with a clear-eyed outlook that the world is not a “global community” but an arena where nations, nongovernmental actors and businesses engage and compete for advantage. We bring to this forum unmatched military, political, economic, cultural and moral strength. Rather than deny this elemental nature of international affairs, we embrace it. In this vision, U.S. allies aren’t partners, so much they’re competitors in the “arena.” It’s a model in which the American president stops leading the free world and starts defeating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 This meme is a fucking goldmine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denstorebog Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 20 minutes ago, OldGimletEye said: Sometimes I wonder if the Republican Party is just saying: "Oh yeah, you thought Dubya was bad? Well, we'll show you!!! Wait until you get a fuckin' load of this guy!!!" http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/our-allies-alarm-trumps-foreign-policy-vision-takes-shape Whatever respect I had for McMaster or faith that he was going to be a voice of integrity in a room of humanoid swine is quickly eroding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Good grief. So, if only a small number of people know what it means why the hell did he tweet it to the entire planet? :facepalm: For the same reason he told Netanyahu that he didn't tell the Russians he'd gotten intelligence from Israeli intelligence services while telling them the intelligence the US received from Israel security services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartIheartTesla Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Good grief. So, if only a small number of people know what it means why the hell did he tweet it to the entire planet? :facepalm: Just thinking about it sends me into a fefe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altherion Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 48 minutes ago, OldGimletEye said: Sometimes I wonder if the Republican Party is just saying: "Oh yeah, you thought Dubya was bad? Well, we'll show you!!! Wait until you get a fuckin' load of this guy!!!" http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/our-allies-alarm-trumps-foreign-policy-vision-takes-shape Can you clarify what you find objectionable in the lines that you quoted? To me, it is self-evident that the world is "an arena where nations, nongovernmental actors and businesses engage and compete for advantage." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGimletEye Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, Altherion said: Can you clarify what you find objectionable in the lines that you quoted? To me, it is self-evident that the world is "an arena where nations, nongovernmental actors and businesses engage and compete for advantage." Because I'm about 55% liberal internationalist idealist and about 45% realist. I find this return, it would seem to me, to 19th Century Foreign Policy a bit atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wedge Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, Altherion said: Can you clarify what you find objectionable in the lines that you quoted? To me, it is self-evident that the world is "an arena where nations, nongovernmental actors and businesses engage and compete for advantage." Because the U.S. should not be in the business of putting other countries out of business. Because they are not businesses. They are nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altherion Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 16 minutes ago, OldGimletEye said: Because I'm about 55% liberal internationalist idealist and about 45% realist. I find this return, it would seem to me, to 19th Century Foreign Policy a bit atrocious. Well, at least you don't need to change much to reach a state more suited for what appears to be the near-term future. I've always though of liberal internationalist idealism as a thin and translucent cloak over realism, although late 20th and early 21st century realism has indeed been quite different from its 19th century predecessor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 36 minutes ago, Altherion said: Can you clarify what you find objectionable in the lines that you quoted? To me, it is self-evident that the world is "an arena where nations, nongovernmental actors and businesses engage and compete for advantage." Except it isn't. Even in business it's not wholly true. There is more international cooperation and collaboration now than there ever has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 14 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: Except it isn't. Even in business it's not wholly true. There is more international cooperation and collaboration now than there ever has been. Just wait for it -- we'll be SWIMMING in bullion. http://101qs-media.s3.amazonaws.com/largethumbs/559-money-bin.jpg /mercantilism ... smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 1 hour ago, OldGimletEye said: Sometimes I wonder if the Republican Party is just saying: "Oh yeah, you thought Dubya was bad? Well, we'll show you!!! Wait until you get a fuckin' load of this guy!!!" http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/our-allies-alarm-trumps-foreign-policy-vision-takes-shape Isn't this some kind of weird international capitalistic Darwinism. Survival of the fittest country, or perhaps who has the biggest covfefe? Whatever could go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Putin: The secret password is 'covfefe' Trump: Kuvfifi Putin: Covfefe Trump: Deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 My heavens, this has been such a joy today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 2 hours ago, OldGimletEye said: Sometimes I wonder if the Republican Party is just saying: "Oh yeah, you thought Dubya was bad? Well, we'll show you!!! Wait until you get a fuckin' load of this guy!!!" http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/our-allies-alarm-trumps-foreign-policy-vision-takes-shape We're going to be doing all the winning (in our not so far off global dystopian future)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 3 hours ago, OldGimletEye said: Because I'm about 55% liberal internationalist idealist and about 45% realist. I find this return, it would seem to me, to 19th Century Foreign Policy a bit atrocious. Who doesn't want a return of gunboat diplomacy? What harm has imperialism ever done anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I haven't worked out what cov is, but surely fefe is "fuck everyone forever". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippounet Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Not sure what to make of this, d'you guys think this could be true? https://www.usnews.com/opinion/policy-dose/articles/2017-05-30/republicans-raised-your-health-care-premiums-not-obamacare?src=usn_fb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkerX Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 The Russia Scandal just will not die: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-administration-moves-to-return-russian-compounds-in-maryland-and-new-york/ar-BBBKtd5?ocid=ob-fb-enus-580 The Trump administration is moving toward handing back to Russia two diplomatic compounds, near New York City and on Maryland’s Eastern Shore, from which its officials were ejected in late December as punishment for Moscow’s interference in the 2016 presidential election. Then-President Barack Obama said Dec. 29 that the compounds were being “used by Russian personnel for intelligence-related purposes,” and gave Russia 24 hours to vacate them. Separately, Obama expelled from the United States what he said were 35 Russian “intelligence operatives.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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