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Breaking the Wheel


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On 8/25/2017 at 8:15 AM, The Prince who was not pro said:

Daenerys did not end with slavery, she only did it in the slaves' bay, and that to break the wheel is a stupidity of the show, if of course "breaks the wheel", but she, Targaryen continues to rule over all inhabitants as her subjects .

Daenerys' idea of "ending slavery" means curbing the worst cruelties (good!) and setting herself up as the beneficiary of slavery (bad!) because she failed to produce a remotely viable alternative.

Equally, her idea of breaking the wheel seems to rather be "stopping" it with her on top, not any real changes for the commoners or the introduction of civil rights - which is just like the other wanna-be rulers, no better no worse, just with an extra helping of hypocrisy.

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17 minutes ago, Mikkel said:

Daenerys' idea of "ending slavery" means curbing the worst cruelties (good!) and setting herself up as the beneficiary of slavery (bad!) because she failed to produce a remotely viable alternative.

Equally, her idea of breaking the wheel seems to rather be "stopping" it with her on top, not any real changes for the commoners or the introduction of civil rights - which is just like the other wanna-be rulers, no better no worse, just with an extra helping of hypocrisy.

And remember that the moment Daenerys left Slaver's Bay, they returned to slavery. She didn't actually solve the problem. - That's what happened in the books, and I'm pretty sure that's what happened in the show too.

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4 hours ago, Dawn of Fyre said:

And remember that the moment Daenerys left Slaver's Bay, they returned to slavery. She didn't actually solve the problem. - That's what happened in the books, and I'm pretty sure that's what happened in the show too.

You have to remember that Slaver's Bay is a work in progress where we left off in the books.  Dany will not leave Slaver's Bay until the slaves are all free and the slave trade ended.  Dany is the hero in this story and that is what heroes do.  She will end the practice of slavery and destroy the most evil people in the world, the masters and their terrorists arm, the harpy.

The show is pretty clear.  Daenerys, her Dragons, the Dothraki, and her Unsullied put an end to the horrible slave trade, renamed the bay to the Bay of Dragons, and allowed the people to elect their own leaders.  It's an unqualified success story and a victory for Daenerys Targaryen. 

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26 minutes ago, Bowen 747 said:

Dany is the hero in this story

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26 minutes ago, Bowen 747 said:

The show is pretty clear.  Daenerys, her Dragons, the Dothraki, and her Unsullied put an end to the horrible slave trade, renamed the bay to the Bay of Dragons, and allowed the people to elect their own leaders.  It's an unqualified success story and a victory for Daenerys Targaryen. 

Yes the show is done with Slaver's Bay, just like they are done with just about anything else not directly related to the so-called main storyline, so they basically tacked an "and they all lived happily ever after, the end, let's never speak of this again" ending on that part of the story. A pity, but probably necessary given the much shortened final seasons.

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16 minutes ago, Bowen 747 said:

You have to remember that Slaver's Bay is a work in progress where we left off in the books.  Dany will not leave Slaver's Bay until the slaves are all free and the slave trade ended.  Dany is the hero in this story and that is what heroes do.  She will end the practice of slavery and destroy the most evil people in the world, the masters and their terrorists arm, the harpy.

The show is pretty clear.  Daenerys, her Dragons, the Dothraki, and her Unsullied put an end to the horrible slave trade, renamed the bay to the Bay of Dragons, and allowed the people to elect their own leaders.  It's an unqualified success story and a victory for Daenerys Targaryen. 

Essos is much bigger than Slaver's Bay. She ended slavery there, but slavery still exists in Essos. And now that she is in Westeros, there is no going back to Essos. :/ So no, she won't end the practice of slavery in the world.

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