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What is the role of Gendry?

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In the books, Gendry is unlikely to be Tru-born. But in the show, he is - he just is (even if they don’t bother with the reveal).

1. The conversation with Cat where Cersei states that she had a child – “a beautiful black haired boy” who “was taken from me”. Yes, she might be lying, but:

2. The conversation with Fat Bob where they talk about their first child, who they lost. Unless they made this imaginary child up as a game.

These conversations show that Maggie the frog is just wrong and her prediction cannot be used to discount what we know to be true.

D+D have gone out of their way to set this up. Season 1 was pretty faithful to the books, and here we have two complete conversations that don’t appear in the books, that, in fact, go against what was in the books. When Season 1 was written, they 100% created a legitimate son for Robert and Cersei, presumably because they had a plan for him. Why?

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My tinfoil theory?

Gendry will forge Lightbringer, but will not wield it.

A King’s blood has power. And so does a magic sword tempered in a King’s breast.

Edited by Timm
breast not beast

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One other thing:

 

If Gendry is just a bastard prince why did burning his Blood-Leaches have such a huge impact and burning Shireen little or none? Because Gendry is the true born heir - as yet uncrowned - but King nonetheless.

 

This means that Stannis has no valid claim and Shireen was not a princess. Sadly, that scene was just another clue to Gendry’s true status.

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1 hour ago, Timm said:

If Gendry is just a bastard prince why did burning his Blood-Leaches have such a huge impact

He has royal blood nonetheless. I don't see any problems here, bastard or trueborn does not matter for magic relying on blood. Blood and official status are entirely different things. 

Cersei wanted to have Gendry killed when they killed all of Robert's bastards. This is not consistent with Gendry being Cerseis son. 

1 hour ago, Timm said:

These conversations show that Maggie the frog is just wrong and her prediction cannot be used

At least the book prophecies wil be reliable.

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On 2/11/2019 at 3:50 PM, Kajjo said:

He has royal blood nonetheless. I don't see any problems here, bastard or trueborn does not matter for magic relying on blood. Blood and official status are entirely different things. 

Cersei wanted to have Gendry killed when they killed all of Robert's bastards. This is not consistent with Gendry being Cerseis son. 

At least the book prophecies wil be reliable.

Doubtful, because the prophecies from the earlier books won't be fulfilled simply because there won't be other books to fulfill them!

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19 hours ago, Ser Gareth said:

Doubtful, because the prophecies from the earlier books won't be fulfilled simply because there won't be other books to fulfill them!

Well, GRRM stands fully behind the prophecies and GRRM and DD promised the book end and show end will be compatible, even if the path leading to the end might deviate to a certain degree. I believe they will do so.

Even if the lasst books will never be published, I still believe that all important prophecies will play out. Daenerys' prophecies (visions in the House of the Undying) will at least, because they have been in the show, The PTWP does not play an important role in the show, so maybe they shortcut this somehow. 

By the way, I sincerely believe, GRRM intentionally did not publish the last books before end of the show. It's a wise move economically, and a great move tension-wise for all watchers.

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The Hammer prophecy in Fire and Blood could apply to Gendry too. 

I can't believe he's walking around Dragonstone calling himself Robert Baratheon's son AND using a warhammer that has a stag sigil on it! Now Dany has two people with claims that she has to neutralize.

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On 2/11/2019 at 5:40 AM, Timm said:

One other thing:

 

If Gendry is just a bastard prince why did burning his Blood-Leaches have such a huge impact and burning Shireen little or none? Because Gendry is the true born heir - as yet uncrowned - but King nonetheless.

 

This means that Stannis has no valid claim and Shireen was not a princess. Sadly, that scene was just another clue to Gendry’s true status.

Um. What show were you watching? Shireen's sacrifice postponed Winter. That's huge! Everything that happened in the North the last two seasons would just not. Jon wouldn't have been able to leave Castle Black. The Bolton's would have been frozen in Winterfell. The North would have remained divided and unprepared. Plus the Snow would have continued South freezing transport of supplies and preventing troop movements. There is no single act as significant as Shireen's sacrifice. Westeros would have been doomed otherwise. 

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Gendry's role in the show is to get shirtless again and do something brave like.

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On 2/23/2019 at 2:13 AM, Lord Stannis-The True King said:

Um. What show were you watching? Shireen's sacrifice postponed Winter. That's huge! Everything that happened in the North the last two seasons would just not. Jon wouldn't have been able to leave Castle Black. The Bolton's would have been frozen in Winterfell. The North would have remained divided and unprepared. Plus the Snow would have continued South freezing transport of supplies and preventing troop movements. There is no single act as significant as Shireen's sacrifice. Westeros would have been doomed otherwise. 

Well, I'd say Gendry's blood had much more impact on the show than Shireen's, technically speaking.

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48 minutes ago, Meera of Tarth said:

Well, I'd say Gendry's blood had much more impact on the show than Shireen's, technically speaking.

They were both important to be sure. However, I can see scenarios where the white walkers are defeated without the death's of Robb, Joffry and Balon. I cannot see how humanity prevails without pushing Winter back. Westeros was so nearly out of time.

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