[Spoilers] Rant and Rave Without Repercussion

[UnViserion]

17 minutes ago, SuperMario said:

Not to mention Alfie Allen is one of the better actors on the show, and they give him almost zero dialogue all season. Instead we get Kit and Emilia bumble fucking their way around a dialogue.

Kits actually improved tho

[Le Cygne]

21 minutes ago, SuperMario said:

Not to mention Alfie Allen is one of the better actors on the show, and they give him almost zero dialogue all season. Instead we get Kit and Emilia bumble fucking their way around a dialogue.

Alfie deserves better. That was just terrible as usual. It's like elementary school playground writing, obsessed with body parts and bodily functions.

And yeah, Kit and Emilia just gaped and stared, who knows what they were trying to express, and who cares, none of this makes any sense anyway.

[Snormund]

3 minutes ago, ramla said:

Such a waste of talent. Maybe a blessing as all he would have had to work with would have been butchered dialogue. smh

They have been wasting so many good actors and actresses. 

[Masha's apron]

22 minutes ago, Maid So Fair said:

I just realised I completely forgot to rant about the hilarious fact that Cersei (Cersei!) of all people calls Dany a usurper when she's the one without even a theoretical claim to the throne and before Dany has managed to actually usurp anything.

I know. Most of the dialogue makes no sense anymore. 

[Tywinelle]

32 minutes ago, Maid So Fair said:

I just realised I completely forgot to rant about the hilarious fact that Cersei (Cersei!) of all people calls Dany a usurper when she's the one without even a theoretical claim to the throne and before Dany has managed to actually usurp anything.

Yup I LOLed at that too.  She had zero claim to the throne and no one called her out on it.

[Armand Gargalen]

 

Nothing would surprise you? Master schemer LF did really not see this coming?

Plain dumb...

[Lady Fevre Dream]

5 hours ago, The Prince of Porne said:

Forgot to mention that between Jon's real name turning out to be Aegon and the Golden Company getting shoehorned back into things (be afraid, Jon Connington fans!), I think it's safe to say the fAegon plot is a lot more significant than many assumed when he wasn't included, and portions of his role are being handed off to other characters (Jon, Cersei) at the eleventh hour.

Ut oh, I didn't even contemplate the idea of a Jon Connington being in the Golden Company.  I'm double worried because Cers will need someone to command land forces, huh?  Granted, it'd just be a name, I think, unless they want to throw in a character who knew the Noble Rhaegar, as Oberyn called him.  Then again, any of our sellsword characters could wind up leading the Golden Company.  How about Tatters?  LOL  That reminds me, what happened to Davos's buddy Sallador Saan?  I would still like to hear him say the word Dragonstone......one.......more......time!! 

[teej6]

35 minutes ago, EverydaySepta said:

No, if the rumours are true the relationship went sour and it's written into Lena's contract that she will not work with Jerome. Or at least they are not supposed to be on the same set, doing any scenes together, etc.

Has that ever been confirmed though, or was it just rumours and putting 1+1 together when Bronn was never actively in a Cersei scene where it would have made sense for him to be lurking in the background?

Ah I see. Thanks!

[ramla]

Its crazy how great the scene without people in them were filmed. LOL
 

• I liked the Theon ? Jon scene. They are characters with very similar paths and very different outcomes.
• The show has far too much Deus Ex Machina going on, and its all built up to this episode. The Wall falls because of the dragon that the Knight King Acquired at the last moment really. Without that dragon they would have just marched to the wall and stood there?! What is the fire that the dragon is breathing? Where is the flame coming from? I can understand the reanimating of it. But how does the same body fluids form in a dead body? When the ice lance hits Visarion, it basically bleed flaming fluid everywhere. I assume it hit the gland that produces the flames it spits out. Maybe Im looking too deep and assuming a great deal but it makes no sense. And how does flame of a dead dragon melt the wall? Im positive this doesn't happen in the books,

[Tadco26]

4 minutes ago, Armand Gargalen said:

 

Nothing would surprise you? Master schemer LF did really not see this coming?

Plain dumb...

Show-Littlefinger isn't really much of a master planner.  He betrayed the Lannisters for no reason when they were the ones legitimizing his lordship and claim in the Vale so he could ally with the Bolton's who betrayed the Lannister's for no reason as they were legitimizing their claim on the North and Ramsay not being a bastard.  Then Littlefinger betrayed the Bolton's too and each scheme had no apparent benefit for him.  He had more power before he left the vale than he has ever since and there was never any explanation of what his end game was.  No plan to marry Sansa or consolidate power in any way.  He has been a disappointing character for most of the show's run, more brothel owning buffoon than master plotter.

[LokisRaider]

Funniest, or dumbest I guess, moment for me was still the Sam and Bran scene.

Sam - you what's up how was the beyond the wall?

Bran - it was cool, I became the three eyed raven I know everything. What's up with you?

Sam - I'm here to help my buddy Jon.

Bran - yea I got to tell him he's the bastard son of Rhaegar. Not the bastard son of my pops.

Sam - he's not a bastard he's the true born son because I was flipping out about shit when it was mentioned.

Bran - Say whhhhaaaaattttt!!!????

[Maid So Fair]

47 minutes ago, SuperMario said:

Not to mention Alfie Allen is one of the better actors on the show, and they give him almost zero dialogue all season. Instead we get Kit and Emilia bumble fucking their way around a dialogue.

Alfie Allen is amazing but to be fair to Kit and Emilia it's not like they're being given much to work with despite the fact it should be obvious by now that they need that extra nudge of closer direction/better material. The show is basically asking them to convey an explosive romance entirely through stares and talk about politics. It's basically like the Star Wars prequels, but with even less personal moments between the characters 'falling in love'. I don't think that Jon has shared *any* personal information with Dany at all.

[Maid So Fair]

3 minutes ago, LokisRaider said:

Funniest, or dumbest I guess, moment for me was still the Sam and Bran scene.

Sam - you what's up how was the beyond the wall?

Bran - it was cool, I became the three eyed raven I know everything. What's up with you?

Sam - I'm here to help my buddy Jon.

Bran - yea I got to tell him he's the bastard son of Rhaegar. Not the bastard son of my pops.

Sam - he's not a bastard he's the true born son because I was flipping out about shit when it was mentioned.

Bran - Say whhhhaaaaattttt!!!????

Bran - but that wasn't in the game I downloaded

Sam - it's premium content, you need to unlock it

[I Am TheSongOf IceAndFire]

1 hour ago, Snormund said:

Excellent name for a dog.  What kind of dog is he?

hes a mutt. chow, shepard lab mix. bit my beard when we first met and some reason I related 'biter of beards' to his many book titles. great looking pup, smart and tough as well

also got a couple cats: Nymeria and Darkstar

[Frances Bean Corbray]

21 minutes ago, Lady Fevre Dream said:

Ut oh, I didn't even contemplate the idea of a Jon Connington being in the Golden Company.  I'm double worried because Cers will need someone to command land forces, huh?  Granted, it'd just be a name, I think, unless they want to throw in a character who knew the Noble Rhaegar, as Oberyn called him.  Then again, any of our sellsword characters could wind up leading the Golden Company.  How about Tatters?  LOL  That reminds me, what happened to Davos's buddy Sallador Saan?  I would still like to hear him say the word Dragonstone......one.......more......time!! 

Salladhor Saan is the real father of Cersei's baby.  He'll come back for the big twist/reveal in Season 8.

"I'm not going to rape her.  I'm going to fuck her."

Prophecies always come true in fantasy.

 

 

[ramla]

Why was Little Finger still scheming? Like what was his goal? He's surrounded by Starks and Stark Bannermen. Yet continues to try to scheme and plot in a highly unwise manner. he gives bran the knife used to try and kill him... as a gift. Like what?! Why!? How is reminding him of this knife, going to endear him to you? Arya arrives and he immediately starts to scheme against her without any logical reason. The Stark children are reuniting, and logically now wouldn't be the time to drive a wedge between them. I know he wants to put Sansa on the Iron throw, but theres a time and a place...

Wasted another good character. If he hasn't much to do then give him the Varys treatment.

[Lady Lovisa]

1) Sansa & Arya plot. I refuse to believe that Littlefinger is that stupid. Realistically, there is no way Sansa and Arya would have outwitted him easily. Why didn't he hire personal sellswords as his personal backup guards? The North isn't loyal to him, Yohn royce hates his guts and Arya is an assassin on the loose. He can't expect those people to defend his ass if he ever gets called out for his bullshit, can he? He is exposed to very large risks, left right and centre and he's not the kind to trust people easily, even Sansa. Also, looking at how the plot was resolved, it only goes to show that the sibling vs sibling plot is just a ruse for audience and for writers to introduce a plot twist and for shock factor. If the two siblings had quarrelled in the presence of chambermaids (spies in disguise), it would have been more convincing and acceptable. 

However, I take it that this plot is about Sansa's maturity and development into a great player. She's become a great actor and successfully tricked her great enemy into thinking that she had fallen into their trap. By 'confiding' and expressing her 'worries' to Baelish, he would have thought that she is genuinely seeking advice when in fact she is just picking his brain to get an idea of his ideal outcomes. 

2) Boatsex. Poor build-up. Zero chemistry. Awkward. Plus the music in the background, I was very much disgusted. Lol. But they should have started out the scene with a short conversation about losing the people they loved (reminiscing on their losses), etc.

I could be biased though, since I am a huge fan of the Jon/Ygritte pairing. My heart broke a little knowing he had moved on.

3) No mention by Dany & co. at all to save their former allies. Now that she has male cinderella with a hotbod and manbun there as her ally, who the f cares about Ellaria/Dorne and Yara/Iron Islands? Only a bullshit queen doesn't negotiate on the release of her imprisoned allies. Even more so now that she needs more allies and men to fight the undead.

4) Dragon wings with holes like dafuk. Clearly, somebody didn't pay attention during their physics class.

5) The Cleganes' scene. People seem to like it but that scene was weak. Sandor stepped forward towards Cersei/Gregor and nobody except Gregor moved a muscle? And what was that convo about seriously? It could have been better if they made the Wight go towards Gregor, causing him to strike it with his sword only for the wight to wiggle more. Sandor then taunts him with "What's wrong, brother... Too weak to kill a wight? Did you see yourself in him? The ugly face and all?"

6) No mention of Sansa between Brienne and Sandor. I've always wanted to see his reaction when he finds out she's alive. "The little bird... back in her fucking nest." That will give me closure.

[TywinBestCharacter]

2 minutes ago, ramla said:

Wasted another good character. If he hasn't much to do then give him the Varys treatment.

Yeah... remember when these two were dangerous, highly skilled players of the game? Now they're reduced to Tyrion's comedy buddy/ mustache-twirling villain. 

[Lady Fevre Dream]

10 minutes ago, Frances Bean Corbray said:

Salladhor Saan is the real father of Cersei's baby.  He'll come back for the big twist/reveal in Season 8.

"I'm not going to rape her.  I'm going to fuck her."

Prophecies always come true in fantasy.

 

 

Yes, I your avi, LOL  And, I like your idea there.  At this point, Jaime probably likes that idea, too. 

[WSmith84]

Jon and Daenerys... Let's just say that I've seen autopsies with more sexual chemistry. Thank God that scene was brief.

Cersei's plan is a bit perplexing. If her intent was to always agree to some kind of fake truce, why bother getting all angry and fake reject it and then have a discussion with Jaime where he tries to change her mind only for her to reject him? Doesn't it defeat the purpose of her plan if Dany and Jon leave before Cersei agrees to the truce? Did she know Tyrion would try to convince her too and was waiting for that? Have I given this more thought than the writers? Probably.

Given that the only thing we know about Elia's feelings (in the show) are what Oberyn said about her loving Rhaegar, I'm finding the Rhaegar-Lyanna love story more sickening by the minute. Then we can add the tastelessness of naming Jon after Elia's dead son.

Also, I'm now going to have so many conversations with people thinking that the Starks were the bad guys of the Rebellion, because the show apparently can't remember what happened a few episodes ago when they made it clear that Aerys murdering Brandon and Rickard was the issue, not Lyanna.