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Let's Talk About Winterfell.....


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While it is unlikely the WW would be stopped at Winterfell, much is pointing to a big battle there and it is interesting to ponder how that may play out.

Winterfell has been an important location throughout the series:

1. It is the ancient ancestral home of the Stark family, which happens to contain 4 of the series main protagonists - Arya, Sansa, Bran and Jon (yes hes Targaryen but he still has Stark blood and grew up in WF so the place is important to him too).

2. It is for all intents and purposes, the Capital of the North and the ruling seat of the Leader of the North, who all the other Northern lords serve.

3. Key events in series have occurred there since the start - Roberts visit; Bran being pushed out window (starts off brans arc); Robert announcing Joffrey-Sansa match (important trigger in Sansas arc); Ned accepting HotK offer and taking Arya and Sansa with him to Kings Landing; Theon betraying the Starks and burning WF (key point in Brans arc especially as forces him to leave WF, but also cuts off returning to WF as option for Sansa and Arya); Roose Bolton taking control of WF after being named Warden of North following Red Wedding; Sansa being offered to Ramsay (thanks to LF); Ramsay killing Roose; Sansa escaping WF (with Theons help); Battle of the Bastards including death of Ramsay; Starks retaking WF; Arya and Brans return home; Littlefingers death.

4. It is hinted to contain magic and was constructed by Brandon the Builder who also built The Wall. The Winterfell crypts also appear to have some not yet fully explained importance.

Now, we know Jon and Danaerys with all their forces are headed to Winterfell as per scroll Bran showed Sam in finale. We also know the army of the dead are through the Wall and heading South. It is almost certain the forces will all converge near Winterfell.

So, the big question is, what will the result be after the battle at/near Winterfell??

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I think there are a few possibilities: 

1. Winterfell is destroyed by the army of the dead. Not as in burnt out ala season 2 from Theon where it is still salvageable, but completely obliterated as in there is no more Winterfell. 

This could have interesting and serious consequences for the arcs of Sansa, Bran and Arya - and thats assuming they survive at all.

*Sansa would no longer have any claim whatsoever to ruling with WF gone and the North overtaken. She would no longer be able to use the political skills she has gained to strengthen her family and the North as the North will essentially no longer exist. What would she do now?? 

*Where would Arya turn with her "pack" once again decimated and left homeless? A huge part of her arc has been about her identity. If the place that holds pretty much all her memories of that identity is destroyed and her pack torn apart again, what would she do?? 

*What would happen to Bran as the 3 eyed raven? His power seems to stem from the weirwood trees and the old gods, but if the North is overrun and the weirwood trees destroyed, would he lose his powers?? The Southern Kingdoms are the domain of the Seven and the old gods have no power there. 

2. After the battle, Winterfell remains standing, though damaged and most of the rest of the North is decimated and its denizens all forced to hole up in Winterfell for survival or otherwise head further South and join other kingdoms instead, thus no longer serving House Stark.

Arya, Sansa and Bran could then either stay in Winterfell together with the Northerners that remain and try and rebuild; declare a new destiny for the denizens of the North relocating to somewhere in the South; or split up again in different roles - eg 1 stays in WF, 1 leads those who want to go South and 1 may enact an alternative plan.

3. The army of the dead dont do any significant damage to Winterfell itself and dont kill many of its people. Something repels them and/or leads the NK and his armies elsewhere. Things are able to essentially continue as they have been in Winterfell.

4. Winterfell is overrun and Sansa, Arya, Bran and Jon all die there. The Stark Line is ended, but the army of the dead is defeated.

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5 minutes ago, Graydon Hicks said:

its supposed to bigger than the keep of dragon stone or the red keep.

Yes, plus Battle of the Bastards took place in and in the plains around Winterfell. There is zero reason a big battle involving WW, undead and dragons couldn't also occur there.

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Having a battle outside WF with WW and Army of the Dead might not even happen. It is depending on what WW/NK endgame/plan is. What he/they are after in the first place.

 

I don't believe NK is after destruction of humanity or gaining as many wights as possible. He has to have another plan, question is where that plan will take him.

 

WF is an option because there are Starks there, and NK/WW has to have some kind of connection with stark family.

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The White Walkers may go south and Winterfell could still be standing. The first long night gives the impression that the White Walkers were everywhere in Westeros, not just the north. It could be the same this time, there may be fighting at different locations all over Westeros.

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WF is just a castle. The WW don't need to storm it to go farther. Same for Castle Black; should be safe now with the WW moving south. The WW should reach KL and kick Cersei's arse. Or she will have been right in ignoring the threat. And all the good guys' trouble will be for nothing. GRRM story is dark, but the ending must be rewarding. But yes, the story started at WF. It should end at WF.

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