Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Manhole Eunuchsbane said: Perhaps this one is more to your liking? https://imgflip.com/i/1vqryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 6 hours ago, Zorral said: Amplification and expansion of perspectives for those who value primarily echo chambers and / or are tone deaf. So, no point then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Clinton almost running on UBI but choosing not to because the numbers didn't work well is the most Hillary Clinton thing I've ever heard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, Kalbear said: Clinton almost running on UBI but choosing not to because the numbers didn't work well is the most Hillary Clinton thing I've ever heard of. One of the guys I used to argue with at an old board was to the right of Kaiser and moved to Alaska. I teased him about the Permanent Fund being incredibly socialist, which he then vehemently denied. It was a lot of fun. Anyway, yeah, a carbon tax is always going to poll horribly at first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 To good to pass up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 5 hours ago, Kalbear said: Clinton almost running on UBI but choosing not to because the numbers didn't work well is the most Hillary Clinton thing I've ever heard of. It really really is. Look at populist pie-in-the-sky idea. Figure out you can't make the numbers work. Abandon the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackerNeil Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 35 minutes ago, Shryke said: It really really is. Look at populist pie-in-the-sky idea. Figure out you can't make the numbers work. Abandon the idea. When Paul Ryan does something like that, he's "a numbers guy." When Hillary Clinton does it, she's a corporate shill and a betrayer of all things liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, TrackerNeil said: When Paul Ryan does something like that, he's "a numbers guy." When Hillary Clinton does it, she's a corporate shill and a betrayer of all things liberal. But let's be honest here. She is a corporate shill. I wouldn't go so far as to call her a betrayer of all things liberal, but she is a corporate shill. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/07/us/politics/the-vote-for-bankruptcy-reform-that-haunts-hillary-clinton.html?mcubz=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all swedes are racist Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, TrackerNeil said: When Paul Ryan does something like that, he's "a numbers guy." When Hillary Clinton does it, she's a corporate shill and a betrayer of all things liberal. yes i am quite sure the same people are saying both of those things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all swedes are racist Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 sanders to introduce medicare for all bill tomorrow all sounds good, but worried about apparent lack of language related to repealing hyde amendment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, r'hllor's red lobster said: yes i am quite sure the same people are saying both of those things Fuck that. Paul Ryan is a spineless wonk who idolizes a shitty, flawed philosophy. For all of Clinton's faults, she should be compared favorably to Paul Ryan by any objective measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all swedes are racist Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Manhole Eunuchsbane said: Fuck that. Paul Ryan is a spineless wonk who idolizes a shitty, flawed philosophy. For all of Clinton's faults, she should be compared favorably to Paul Ryan by any objective measure. very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamMe90 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, r'hllor's red lobster said: very good Mmm, condescension thicker than a ribeye. How delicious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, IamMe90 said: Mmm, condescension thicker than a ribeye. How delicious Just so long as you don't order it well done and then put ketchup on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamMe90 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Manhole Eunuchsbane said: Just so long as you don't order it well done and then put ketchup on it. Condescension or no condescension, I think at that point it's ceased to be a ribeye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 32 minutes ago, Manhole Eunuchsbane said: Fuck that. Paul Ryan is a spineless wonk who idolizes a shitty, flawed philosophy. For all of Clinton's faults, she should be compared favorably to Paul Ryan by any objective measure. Paul Ryan, Deep Thinking Policy Wonk: For all her faults, Hillary was a workhorse on policy that was respected on both sides of the aisle in the Senate. Paul Ryan's policy "knowhow" emanates from starting off as Jack Kemp's smarmy little bitch speechwriter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Yeah, Paul Ryan's "wonk" status is an invention of the DC courtier media. In reality, he's a randian nutjob and idiot. Clinton's a pretty smart policy person and hard worker with some faults of the Democratic party movement she comes from and the politics of the previous style of the party that it is slowly shedding. But she's definitely one for the practical solution over the soaring rhetoric. Like this quote from the book on the UBI issue is absolutely classic Hillary Clinton: Quote We decided it was exciting but not realistic, and left it on the shelf. That was the responsible decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 5 hours ago, Let's Get Kraken said: SCOTUS really living up to its role as the foil of unchecked federal power I see. Well, let's just hope ISIS doesn't think of some radical new strategy for infiltrating our country, like a connecting flight from Saudi Arabia. But that's crazy talk. I mean ISIS is only a shadow organization with military training, a vast network of spies and hackers, and hundreds of millions of dollars at its disposal. Why assume they can pull off the same thing as a Cuban guy with a raft. Thank you God-Emperor Trump for keeping us poor, frightened little fools safe. LGK, Do you have a link? The only thing I'm seeing it that the SCOTUS granted Texas a stay on Electoral map changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Lew Theobald said: Sarcasm aside, protecting the borders, in order to keep us safe, is actually his job. He may not be the best person for the job, but it's the job he has. I think SCOTUS understands the importance of actually letting the President do his job when he comes to border security. If he does it poorly, there's an election in 3 years. Meanwhile, if he tries to interfere with freedom of speech, freedom of the press, or other guarantees and protections of the democratic process or rights of U.S. citizens, that would be when I would want SCOTUS to step in. When he is barring US citizens reentry to the US and seizing cell phones from citizens as a condition of reentry he is far overstepping the power granted to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 @TrackerNeil is back!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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