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31 minutes ago, Nictarion said:

:o 

I’d put the pilot up there with just about any show ever as far as hooking me from the start. 

Agreed. 

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3 hours ago, Nictarion said:

@Werthead

I have not seen Homicide: Life on the Street, but you would put it ahead of The Shield as far as cop shows go? 

I loved Homicide.  It just got better and richer the longer it went on.  It became a whole world to which I eagerly returned every day.  I spent months watching the entire run of its seasons.  I loved the people, I loved the location.  And one could see David Simon learning everything he needed to learn in order to do The Wire (which I'd watched first).

It's such a pure historic depiction of a world that was waning even as Homicide was being made: this was the threshold of leaving the pre 9/11 world to the future that is now ours, of nothing working right, constant useless and meaningless murders, corruption and failure of everything -- but just at that point where there were still people doing their jobs right and who believed in decency and progress.  So we saw some real heroism and generosity and honor in Homicide.

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8 hours ago, lessthanluke said:

Agreed. 

Me too. The ending of episode 1 is one of the hookiest hooks in the history of television.

 

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It was great seeing that CC was afraid of flying and and uh... time travel.  Lori should just go back to LA and stay there.  I do hope Dorthy and Lori get a chance to meet again. Larry has actually become kinda sympathetic this season, but then I think back to him telling one of his girls that if her feet hurt she'd better learn to walk on her hands in season one. Rodney just seems to be really enjoying heroin.

I hope the thing Irene's mother wanted to talk about re: her son isn't "he saw one of your movies."  The previews for next week were interesting.  I wish HBO would just dump the whole show on HBOgo/now and let the dozens of us who are watching it binge. I don't think it's appointment viewing for a lot of people. Years ago they put each episode of the final season of The Wire "on demand" a week early because nobody was watching it anyway. 

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It took me a minute to remember who that woman was in the van, helping the hookers. Didn't catch on until the pimp called her out at the bar. I kept thinking I knew her from a different show.

I guess we could put the scene where the $10,00 b.j. happens in the timely #metoo category.

I think I like this season more because the pimps are toned down a bit, have lost some of their power.

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The final scene was very powerfully performed by Jamie Neumann. The whole show is amazingly well-cast and performed, and feels so genuine and authentic in its portrayals. Never a false note.

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I dug the Westworld parody convo overheard at the porn award party. The I learned there was actually a parody film from 1978 called SexWorld. Kudos researchers and writers.

The line about Sanka being healthy was great too.

I thought that was OITNB's Figueroa as the talent agent in last weeks' episode.

Lori's dream-like trip to LA was great to see. Too bad reality kept bringing her down. Fuck CC and his insecurities (all the pimps and their massive insecurities, really).

Candy's scene with the film financier was tough. She seems to be unable to escape her past and become the legit filmmaker she desires. Maggie was great in that scene as she is in most in this series.

So it seems the massage parlor turf battle between Pipilo and the Horse has escalated.

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22 hours ago, Ran said:

The final scene was very powerfully performed by Jamie Neumann. The whole show is amazingly well-cast and performed, and feels so genuine and authentic in its portrayals. Never a false note.

The look of terror on "Ashley's" face was very powerful and real. Given what cc did to her it was a genuine reaction. I hope she finds some revenge against him although it's clear he's becoming redundant I still dread what he might do  to lori if she tries to leave him. Candy's experience in LA shows Lori won't be treat that much better there. Maybe more the exploitation than physical threat but it's not going to be easy.

 

 It was classic "wire" style "we aren't having the character tell you he just burnt down a massage parlour" too. Hearing the sirens and seeing Tommy's hands shaking a little was actually more interesting than seeing him start the fire. The next few episodes could get messy with the various store/bar owners caught in the middle.

 

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Hahaha, Larry's scene.

Lori needs to drop CC quickly. He's the significant other/friend you always hope will not be the +1.

 

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Yeah Larry telling the woman playing the jail guard to get ready and her reaction two episodes back was a great moment. Larry has been great in general this season. For a minute there it almost seemed like he and Darlene were now just co-workers, and then we found out he's still having her prostitute herself. 

Emily Meade was great in the scene at Candy's in this last episode. I fear for that puppy so much.

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On ‎10‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 5:06 PM, RumHam said:

 

Emily Meade was great in the scene at Candy's in this last episode. I fear for that puppy so much.

Just waiting for CC to snap. Ashley again a great confrontation with CC.

Looks like Candy felt a bit of remorse while persuading (perhaps feeling uneasy about all of the manipulation in their line of work) Lori to star in her film.

Abby can't be that naïve. Everyone is compromised in the show.

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What the hell is Bobby thinking? One parlor get's torched and the others get raided so yeah sure, good time to bring your kid into the business.

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Not smart, Bobby. 

Have to say the realization dawning on Candy that the proper ending of her film was the reversal of roles, Little Red and her "aunt" luring the wolf into their den, was terrific. Reminds me of some revisionist fairytale takes I've seen on Little Red Riding Hood. Some really great work all around with this episode. Kind of concerned that Frankie isn't going to mention the fact that he gave 25% of the take away to the mob for that $20k until they've burned through all the money... but this mirrors the situation with Deep Throat, so no surprise.

What to make of Lori's and Candy's conversation in the car? Feels to me like Candy has sold herself on a story of how and why she and pretty much everyone else turned to prostitution, and was angry when Lori denied it because she's interpreting it as a lie rather than accepting that maybe she's the one who's lying to herself. But maybe I'm overthinking it.

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Probably my favorite episode this year, not entirely sure why but I liked it.

Am I the only one who has the song by Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs, "Little Red Riding Hood" going through their heads all the time while watching the show? Fits it so perfectly that I wish they would play it.

I am worried for Lori. Have a feeling she plans to escape to LA and that she will get betrayed and CC will kill her before letting her go. Hope I am wrong but that would make a lasting impression as the final scene for the season.

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On ‎10‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 4:44 PM, dbunting said:

Probably my favorite episode this year, not entirely sure why but I liked it.

Am I the only one who has the song by Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs, "Little Red Riding Hood" going through their heads all the time while watching the show? Fits it so perfectly that I wish they would play it.

I am worried for Lori. Have a feeling she plans to escape to LA and that she will get betrayed and CC will kill her before letting her go. Hope I am wrong but that would make a lasting impression as the final scene for the season.

Was that the song Candy was singing with the producer(or was it Harvey?) a few episodes back when she was running the idea by him?

 

On ‎10‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 11:10 AM, Ran said:

 

What to make of Lori's and Candy's conversation in the car? Feels to me like Candy has sold herself on a story of how and why she and pretty much everyone else turned to prostitution, and was angry when Lori denied it because she's interpreting it as a lie rather than accepting that maybe she's the one who's lying to herself. But maybe I'm overthinking it.

It felt as if Candy was speaking to herself rather than Lori, trying to romanticize the life. Their experiences on the street were not entirely similar since Candy wasn't being run by an asshole pimp.

Or perhaps that it is how Lori originally felt until she got trapped in the life and now realizes how hard it will be for her to escape.

 

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22 minutes ago, Astromech said:

Was that the song Candy was singing with the producer(or was it Harvey?) a few episodes back when she was running the idea by him?

Yep.

22 minutes ago, Astromech said:


It felt as if Candy was speaking to herself rather than Lori, trying to romanticize the life. Their experiences on the street were not entirely similar since Candy wasn't being run by an asshole pimp.

She was definitely romanticizing things. Her anger over Lori's denial it was like that is what got me -- her slamming the door closed.

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I thought Candy was just being a director manipulating her lead actress into an emotional state necessary for the next scene.

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I would be surprised if Lori makes it to Season 3... C.C. is a ticking time bomb... 

On a similar note... I love the casting...the pimps, and CC in particular, can be incredibly charming, instead of just 2-dimensional thugs... there are moments when I think "Aw. he ain;t such a bad fella" before it dawns on me that they are all complete scum... its really well written and acted.

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