Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Kalbear said: After the circumfix, when he first started being manipulated by ajokli? Also, 'his heart would crash to ruin' is not, as far as I can tell, actually in TTT. You don't know at all thtas when he started talking to Ajokli. Not confirmed in text at all. Yes, that scene was at Kyudea with Moe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Abuse does not have to be physical, it can be emotional and.or mental as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.H. Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Let's Get Kraken said: Also I'm fairly certain that the crash and ruin line was from TGO, not TTT. Indeed, it's TGO, Chapter 1: Quote No flesh could be sundered from its heart and survive. All of his empire was doomed—was disposable. Kellhus had known this and he had prepared. No … It was the hazard of the converse that had eluded him … “The World is a granary, Proyas … The fact that his heart would also crash into ruin. “And we are the bread.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Michael Seswatha Jordan said: You don't know at all thtas when he started talking to Ajokli. Not confirmed in text at all. Sure, so what? One has extratextual backing, one doesn't. 2 hours ago, Michael Seswatha Jordan said: Yes, that scene was at Kyudea with Moe. Then find it; there are 85 occurrences of the word 'ruin' in TTT, and none include that phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 27 minutes ago, Kalbear said: Sure, so what? One has extratextual backing, one doesn't. Then find it; there are 85 occurrences of the word 'ruin' in TTT, and none include that phrase. Yea, I think your right because I searched it. Here's what I could find about what he says about Esme in that convo. That was in WLW or TGO about crash g into ruin, your correct. Her name arose like a pang from the darkness: Esmenet. There again though the darkness. Is it love that's the Darkness? Because he count account for it through the PT and his other Dunyain skills? I would say so. Same thing we get in TUC about why he saved her and kept her ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 29 minutes ago, Michael Seswatha Jordan said: There again though the darkness. Is it love that's the Darkness? Because he count account for it through the PT and his other Dunyain skills? I would say so. Same thing we get in TUC about why he saved her and kept her ignorant. Except we now know that at least some of the "Darkness" that Kellhus experiences is simply Ajokli fucking with him. Also, when capitalizing The Darkness I keep having this song race through my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 DARKNESS IMPRISONING ME ALL THAT I SEE ABSOLUTE HORROR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.H. Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 47 minutes ago, Kalbear said: Also, when capitalizing The Darkness I keep having this song race through my head. For me, it's always this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 25 minutes ago, Let's Get Kraken said: Let's just skip ahead to the inevitable conclusion of this conversation. I cn appreciate that with a 5 year old boy that has watched that movie 100's of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I'm a 38 year old man with no kids and I've watched that movie 100s of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 5 hours ago, Darth Richard II said: I'm a 38 year old man with no kids and I've watched that movie 100s of times. It is a good movie. Cracks me up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello World Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Bakker returned to Stuff to Blow your Mind podcast to discuss some things including the ending of TUC according to the Reddit post, I haven't listened yet. http://www.stufftoblowyourmind.com/podcasts/consciousness-and-consult.htm I wonder if he has anything to say besides his AMA stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutarez Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Ajokli used Kelhus's tricks. He made him love, thats how he manipulated him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Lutarez said: Ajokli used Kelhus's tricks. He made him love, thats how he manipulated him Is that from the podcast? Cause if that's official, then EW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callan S. Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 10 hours ago, Hello World said: Bakker returned to Stuff to Blow your Mind podcast to discuss some things including the ending of TUC according to the Reddit post, I haven't listened yet. http://www.stufftoblowyourmind.com/podcasts/consciousness-and-consult.htm I wonder if he has anything to say besides his AMA stuff. For goodness sake! I get him not being into advertising too much. But not giving a link to this in the last blog post - seriously... Edit: Okay, maybe it was to spare us the knowledge "Shelling eyes is real, Esme!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello World Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 His last blog post was 4 days before the podcast was posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 So anyone want to sum up the new info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redeagl Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 On 9/22/2017 at 9:52 PM, Gronzag said: I'm curious, does anyone care for any particular character in this series, the way people care for ASOIAF characters? I really liked Sorweel, he wasn't a rapist, murderer or manipulator, and was pretty much the only character in the books who didn't have any special powers, martial prowess or stunning good looks. But he did have a great moral dilemma about whether to murder Khellus who killed his father and enslaved his people, and yet might be humanity's only chance of survival. Then, of course, Bakker had him first raped by Zsoronga, then hijacked by Yathwer and, finaly, killed by little Kelm. People who don't like Akka are heretics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 6 hours ago, redeagl said: People who don't like Akka are heretics. Only a Sith deals in absolutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Kalbear said: Only a Sith deals in absolutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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