Garth's children and their war of love.

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So this is a thread to help try and show the ancient story of Garth the Green and his children who warred for the love of their sister, and how it tied into the greater events of the war with the Children and the Others. Starting with Garth, who he was and where he came from, and onto his children's kingdoms that came to war over the rivalry between two brothers who fought for their sister's love. So let's begin.

Edit- The Children of Garth are the Grey King and Durran God's Grief. They Grey King (salt king) who activated the curse of the First King by warring with his brother Durran (Rock king) for their sister. Nissa Nissa - Elenai

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Garth the Green, the First King of Westeros who led his people via weirwood boats from the Empire of the Dawn to found a dragon kingdom in Westeros. Ancestor of many faiths. The Lightbringer who gave man fire and knowledge denied by the gods. 

An Antlered Dragon God that looks like a lion and is a supreme God that can shape shift into any animal.

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Pakhangba:

Pakhangba is a mythical hybrid dragon of Manipur which originated in an ancient deity of the Meitei people preceding Hinduism in the region. It was the traditional heraldic emblem of the Princely state of Manipur.[25] A Pakhangba is a dragon with deer antlers. It usually has the body of a snake, but in some sculptures at the Kangla Palace in Imphal, it is represented with a short body and four sturdy legs, looking more like a lion.[26]

The Pakhangba is the supreme God. He is a man who can change his body to any form, like animals, and others as he is a powerful God. In certain sculptures, known as Kangla-Sa, at the citadel of the Kangla Palace in Imphal, there is a related type of creature represented with a short body. The sculptures are large and were built of brick, standing at each side of the northern gate. They have a similar head and four sturdy legs, but their body is shorter and bears more of a resemblance to a lion.

Garth the Green

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Reach: Garth Greenhand

 Garth Greenhand, we call him, but in the oldest tales he is named Garth Greenhair, or simply Garth the Green. Some stories say he had green hands, green hair, or green skin overall. (A few even give him antlers, like a stag.) Others tell us that he dressed in green from head to foot, and certainly this is how he is most commonly depicted in paintings, tapestries, and sculptures. 

Garth was the High King of the First Men, it is written; it was he who led them out of the east and across the land bridge to Westeros. Yet other tales would have us believe that he preceded the arrival of the First Men by thousands of years, making him not only the First Man in Westeros, but the only man, wandering the length and breadth of the land alone and treating with the giants and the children of the forest. Some even say he was a god.

A thousand tales are told of Garth, in the Reach and beyond. Most are implausible, and many contradictory. In some he is a contemporary of Bran the Builder, Lann the Clever, Durran Godsgrief, and the other colorful figures of the Age of Heroes. In others he stands as the ancestor of them all.

and we are given this added imagery of Garth and the Durrandon Kings (Baratheons)

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A Game of Thrones - Eddard XV

He found himself thinking of Robert more and more. He saw the king as he had been in the flower of his youth, tall and handsome, his great antlered helm on his head, his warhammer in hand, sitting his horse like a horned god. He heard his laughter in the dark, saw his eyes, blue and clear as mountain lakes. "Look at us, Ned," Robert said. "Gods, how did we come to this? You here, and me killed by a pig. We won a throne together …"

 

 

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A Game of Thrones - Eddard VI

Perhaps the Hand had seen Lord Renly's new armor, the green plate with the golden antlers? 

 

 

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A Storm of Swords - Davos II

Captain Khorane had told him of the end of Stannis's hopes, on the night the river burned. The Lannisters had taken him from the flank, and his fickle bannermen had abandoned him by the hundreds in the hour of his greatest need. "King Renly's shade was seen as well," the captain said, "slaying right and left as he led the lion lord's van. It's said his green armor took a ghostly glow from the wildfire, and his antlers ran with golden flames."

 

Green hair, eyes and skin, with what appears like antlers or maybe a driftwood crown. This sounds very similar to another First King of legend, The Grey King

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Iron Islands: Driftwood Crowns

The Grey King ruled the sea itself and took a mermaid to wife, so his sons and daughters might live above the waves or beneath them as they chose. His hair and beard and eyes were as grey as a winter sea, and from these he took his name. The crown he wore was made of driftwood, so all who knelt before him might know that his kingship came from the sea and the Drowned God who dwells beneath it.

 It was the Grey King who brought fire to the earth by taunting the Storm God until he lashed down with a thunderbolt, setting a tree ablaze. The Grey King also taught men to weave nets and sails and carved the first longship from the hard pale wood of Ygg, a demon tree who fed on human flesh.

A Feast for Crows - The Drowned Man

On the crown of the hill four-and-forty monstrous stone ribs rose from the earth like the trunks of great pale trees.  Nagga had been the first sea dragon, the mightiest ever to rise from the waves. She fed on krakens and leviathans and drowned whole islands in her wrath, yet the Grey King had slain her and the Drowned God had changed her bones to stone so that men might never cease to wonder at the courage of the first of kings. Nagga's ribs became the beams and pillars of his longhall, just as her jaws became his throne. For a thousand years and seven he reigned here, Aeron recalled. Here he took his mermaid wife and planned his wars against the Storm God. From here he ruled both stone and salt, wearing robes of woven seaweed and a tall pale crown made from Nagga's teeth.

But that was in the dawn of days, when mighty men still dwelt on earth and sea. The hall had been warmed by Nagga's living fire, which the Grey King had made his thrall. On its walls hung tapestries woven from silver seaweed most pleasing to the eyes. The Grey King's warriors had feasted on the bounty of the sea at a table in the shape of a great starfish, whilst seated upon thrones carved from mother-of-pearl. Gone, all the glory gone. Men were smaller now. Their lives had grown short. The Storm God drowned Nagga's fire after the Grey King's death, the chairs and tapestries had been stolen, the roof and walls had rotted away. Even the Grey King's great throne of fangs had been swallowed by the sea. Only Nagga's bones endured to remind the ironborn of all the wonder that had been.

 

and yet, we're told this about weirwoods.

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A Dance with Dragons - Jaime I

. It was a weirwood ancient and colossal, ten times the size of the one in the Stone Garden at Casterly Rock. This tree was bare and dead, though.
"The Brackens poisoned it," said his host. "For a thousand years it has not shown a leaf. In another thousand it will have turned to stone, the maesters say. Weirwoods never rot."

So, through out his long reign, The Grey Kings hair, skin, and eyes, all turned grey. From Green? 

The driftwood crown imagery gives us a man with what could looks like antlers upon his head.

Nagga the Sea Dragon, likely being a weirwood boat that was over turned and used as his great hall upon arriving in Westeros on the Iron Islands. 

Note that we have dragons (sea dragons) and a magic fire (Nagga's living flame) born out of the weirwood trees. Done so when The Grey King taunts the Storm God to lash out with a lightening bolt, killing Ygg and giving man fire. 

This is Lightbringer, Prometheus. The one who defied the gods to give man power, fire, and knowledge. He is Lucifer the Lightbringer who gave man the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. Lightbringer, who is the Star of the Morning. 

The Star of the Morning who is both Jesus and Lucifer.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_Star

The Latin name of the Morning Star ("Lucifer") has been given to Satan in some Christian theology. Many Christians believe that Lucifer is referred to as the son of the morning.

Jesus describes himself as "the bright Morning Star" in the Christian Bible (Revelation 22:16) Notice that "Morning Star" is capitalized in this instance.

 

 Two cultures formed from this First King that will be talked about more later, the Walrus men of the Old way vs the Antler Men of the New way.

 

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A Dance with Dragons - Jon XII

After the riders came the men of the Frozen Shore. Jon watched a dozen of their big bone chariots roll past him one by one, clattering like Rattleshirt. Half still rolled as before; others had replaced their wheels with runners. They slid across the snowdrifts smoothly, where the wheeled chariots were foundering and sinking.

The dogs that drew the chariots were fearsome beasts, as big as direwolves. Their women were clad in sealskins, some with infants at their breasts. Older children shuffled along behind their mothers and looked up at Jon with eyes as dark and hard as the stones they clutched. Some of the men wore antlers on their hats, and some wore walrus tusks. The two sorts did not love each other, he soon gathered. A few thin reindeer brought up the rear, with the great dogs snapping at the heels of stragglers.

"Be wary o' that lot, Jon Snow," Tormund warned him. "A savage folk. The men are bad, the women worse." He took a skin off his saddle and offered it up to Jon. "Here. This will make them seem less fearsome, might be. And warm you for the night. No, go on, it's yours to keep. Drink deep."

 

Yet where did the First King of Westeros come from on his Weirwood boats?

Well lets first discuss Garth's known family House Gardener and something said about them.

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The World of Ice and Fire - Ancient History: The Long Night

Archmaester Fomas's Lies of the Ancients—though little regarded these days for its erroneous claims regarding the founding of Valyria and certain lineal claims in the Reach and westerlands—

 

Say what? Then the book goes on to further say...

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Reach: The Gardener Kings

In those centuries of trial and tumult, the Reach produced many a fearless warrior. From that day to this, the singers have celebrated the deeds of knights like Serwyn of the Mirror Shield, Davos the Dragonslayer, Roland of the Horn, and the Knight Without Armor—and the legendary kings who led them, among them Garth V (Hammer of the Dornish), Gwayne I (the Gallant), Gyles I (the Woe), Gareth II (the Grim), Garth VI (the Morningstar), and Gordan I (Grey-Eyes).

 

So we're also told that under House Gardener and the Kings listed above, served such legendary Knights. Then we're told further...

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - Ancient History: The Age of Heroes

 But when the singers number Serwyn of the Mirror Shield as one of the Kingsguard—an institution that was only formed during the reign of Aegon the Conqueror—we can see why it is that few of these tales can ever be trusted. The septons who first wrote them down took what details suited them and added others, and the singers changed them—sometimes beyond all recognition—for the sake of a warm place in some lord's hall. In such a way does some longdead First Man become a knight who follows the Seven and guards the Targaryen kings thousands of years after he lived (if he ever did). The legion of boys and youths made ignorant of the past history of Westeros by these foolish tales cannot be numbered.

 

So we're told that House Gardener may have been dragon kings, tied to the founding of Valyria. Yet Valyria didn't exist then, so where did Garth come from?

The only civilizations we're told of as existing before the Long Night had fallen was those of Westeros, that of The Realm of the Fisher Queens, and the Great Empire of the Dawn. The Ghiscari Empire couldn't have likely been this old as they mark their founder as Grazdan the Great, and worship something called a Harpy. This almost seems similar to the Valyrian Sphinx and the ones at the Citidel. Yet, the Harpy seems to stand alone. He is not gone though, he is the Manticore which is the Greek equivalent of a Sphinx. So here, just like the Citidel and Valyria, sits a couple (male and female) of Sphinx which seem to represent skinchangers in our story. Grazdan likely dating to the same time as our other mythic characters we're about to discuss though. All centered around the Silver Sea, and possibly tied to the Empire of the Dawn. So lets take a closer look at the Realm of the Fisher Queens and this Silver Sea. 

 

Huzhor Amai

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The World of Ice and Fire - Beyond the Free Cities: The Grasslands

Westeros remembers their conquerors as the Sarnori, for at its height their great kingdom included all the lands watered by the Sarne and its vassals, and the three great lakes that were all that remained of the shrinking Silver Sea. They called themselves the Tall Men (in their own tongue the Tagaez Fen). Long of limb and brown of skin they were, like the Zoqora, though their hair and eyes were black as night. Warriors, sorcerers, and scholars, they traced their descent to the hero king they called Huzhor Amai (the Amazing), born of the last of the Fisher Queens, who took to wife the daughters of the greatest lords and kings of the Gipps, the Cymmeri, and the Zoqora, binding all three peoples to his rule. His Zoqora wife drove his chariot, it is said, his Cymer wife made his armor (for her people were the first to work iron), and he wore about his shoulders a great cloak made from the pelt of a king of the Hairy Men.

So here, around the Silver Sea, we have another civilization who rose up after the Long Night who trace their founder to some one also located around this ancient sea. This Huzhor Amai who is the son of the Last Fisher Queen. Who's name sounds awfully similar to Azor Ahai from legends out of Asshai-The Great Empire of the Dawn. Perhaps they are the same person, and Huzhor/Azor's father comes from the Empire of the Dawn? Making him a union of these two races or cultures. This person was a war like person who conquered people and took multiple wives. He is also said to have had an army of Tall Men known as the Tagaez Fen in their own tongue.

If you'll notice i underlined the spelling of AE as its indicative of the Valyrian culture or possibly their predecessors.

 

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GRRM: If you want to figure out a family's descent, the names are a better clue than the eyes. Houses descended from the First Men tend to have simple short names, often descriptive. Stark. Reed. Flint. Tallhart (tall hart). Etc. The Valyrian names are fairly distinct are well: The "ae" usage usually suggests a Valyrian in the family tree. The Andal names are...well, neith (sic) Stark nor Targaryen, if that makes sense. Lannister. Arryn. Tyrell. Etc. Of course, you also need to remember that there have been hundreds and in some cases thousands of years of interbreeding, so hardly anyone is pure Andal or First Man.

Remember Serwyn of the Mirror Shield, a Knight of the Kings Guard to a Gardener Dragon King? He saves Daeryssa from a giant and fought a dragon with a magic sword.

So lets keep rolling through this. We have Ghis and Sarnor tied to the Silver Sea, having being founded by some mythic person. Who if he is the manticore, may suggest that he was a powerful Skinchanger and Greenseerer. So lets look futher at the Silver Sea and it's people before we move over to the Empire of the Dawn and Azor Ahai.

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The World of Ice and Fire - Beyond the Free Cities: The Grasslands

The Fisher Queens were wise and benevolent and favored of the gods, we are told, and kings and lords and wise men sought the floating palace for their counsel. Beyond their domains, however, other peoples rose and fell and fought, struggling for a place in the sun. Some maesters believe that the First Men originated here before beginning the long westward migration that took them across the Arm of Dorne to Westeros. The Andals, too, may have arisen in the fertile fields south of the Silver Sea. Tales are told of the Hairy Men, a race of shaggy savage warriors, who rode to battle on unicorns. Though larger than the Ibbenese of the present, they may well have been their forebears. We hear as well of the lost city Lyber, where acolytes of a spider goddess and a serpent god fought an endless, bloody war. East of them stood the kingdoms of the centaurs, half man and half horse.

 

 

So we're told that the First Men and the Andals may have take root here around the Grass lands too. Well lets look at the Andals, who trace their decent back to their mythic first King, Hugor of the Hill.

 

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A Dance with Dragons - Tyrion II

The Faith taught that the Seven themselves had once walked the hills of Andalos in human form. "The Father reached his hand into the heavens and pulled down seven stars," Tyrion recited from memory, "and one by one he set them on the brow of Hugor of the Hill to make a glowing crown."

"The Maid brought him forth a girl as supple as a willow with eyes like deep blue pools, and Hugor declared that he would have her for his bride. So the Mother made her fertile, and the Crone foretold that she would bear the king four-and-forty mighty sons. The Warrior gave strength to their arms, whilst the Smith wrought for each a suit of iron plates."

For thousands of years the Andals abided in Andalos, growing in number. In the oldest of the holy books, The Seven-Pointed Star, it is said that the Seven themselves walked among their people in the hills of Andalos, and it was they who crowned Hugor of the Hill and promised him and his descendants great kingdoms in a foreign land. This is what the septons and septas teach as the reason why the Andals left Essos and struck west to Westeros, but the history that the Citadel has uncovered over the centuries may provide a better reason.

Lets take a moment to talk about Hugor's Hill and this Silver Sea, located right by Mother Mountain which may have sat inside the sea at one time, looking much like the God's eye. Could Mother Mountain have been Hugor's home? I think so.

So Grazdan, Huzhor Amai, and Hugor of the Hill, all linking back to the Silver Sea and The Fisher Queens of Old. Founder of three cultures so far, the Ghiscari, the Andals, and the Sarnori.

It must be noted that the Sarnori were dark of hair and eyes, which is likely the case of the Andals and the Ghiscari. As Harren Hoare was said to be Black of Hair due to his Andal taint as was the rest of his family. Further supporting that The Andals, Sarnori, and Ghiscari all had black hair and eyes.

So now that we've discussed some of the Silver Sea, lets take a look at the Empire of the Dawn, where Azor Ahai's legend comes from, possibly the Tall Men used by our mythic figure, and the paternal line of our figure.

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Bones and Beyond: Yi Ti

In the beginning, the priestly scribes of Yin declare, all the land between the Bones and the freezing desert called the Grey Waste, from the Shivering Sea to the Jade Sea (including even the great and holy isle of Leng), formed a single realm ruled by the God-on-Earth, the only begotten son of the Lion of Night and MaidenMade-of-Light, who traveled about his domains in a palanquin carved from a single pearl and carried by a hundred queens, his wives. For ten thousand years the Great Empire of the Dawn flourished in peace and plenty under the Godon-Earth, until at last he ascended to the stars to join his forebears.

Dominion over mankind then passed to his eldest son, who was known as the Pearl Emperor and ruled for a thousand years. The Jade Emperor, the Tourmaline Emperor, the Onyx Emperor, the Topaz Emperor, and the Opal Emperor followed in turn, each reigning for centuries...yet every reign was shorter and more troubled than the one preceding it, for wild men and baleful beasts pressed at the borders of the Great Empire, lesser kings grew prideful and rebellious, and the common people gave themselves over to avarice, envy, lust, murder, incest, gluttony, and sloth.

When the daughter of the Opal Emperor succeeded him as the Amethyst Empress, her envious younger brother cast her down and slew her, proclaiming himself the Bloodstone Emperor and beginning a reign of terror. He practiced dark arts, torture, and necromancy, enslaved his people, took a tiger-woman for his bride, feasted on human flesh, and cast down the true gods to worship a black stone that had fallen from the sky. (Many scholars count the BloodstoneEmperor as the first High Priest of the sinister Church of Starry Wisdom, which persists to this day in many port cities throughout the known world).

In the annals of the Further East, it was the Blood Betrayal, as his usurpation is named, that ushered in the age of darkness called the Long Night. Despairing of the evil that had been unleashed on earth, the Maiden-Made-of-Light turned her back upon the world, and the Lion of Night came forth in all his wroth to punish the wickedness of men.

 

So a couple things to talk about in this myth. 

The Lion of Night as head of the family line, something represented even on Winterfell with lion gargoyels

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A Game of Thrones - Bran IV

The gargoyles watched him ascend. Their eyes glowed red as hot coals in a brazier. Perhaps once they had been lions, but now they were twisted and grotesque. Bran could hear them whispering to each other in soft stone voices terrible to hear. He must not listen, he told himself, he must not hear, so long as he did not hear them he was safe. But when the gargoyles pulled themselves loose from the stone and padded down the side of the tower to where Bran clung, he knew he was not safe after all. "I didn't hear," he wept as they came closer and closer, "I didn't, I didn't."

and something that represents House Lannister, said to have ties to House Gardener, and the Founding of Valyria.

As we make our way down the family line we arrive to the Bloodstone Emperor. Brother to the Amethyst Empress and son of the Opal Emperor. Notice their mother isn't listed -Fisher Queens- Azor. Who is said to have taken a tiger woman to wife (Tiger- Cats Eye- Lion of Night- Children of the Forest) and started slavery. He also practiced Dark Magic's and worshiped a fallen black stone. Which is key. As this is what ties the Bloodstone emperor to Azor Ahai (Huzhor Amai) and to the First Dayne.
 

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The World of Ice and Fire - Dorne: Kingdoms of the First Men

At the mouth of the Torrentine, House Dayne raised its castle on an island where that roaring, tumultuous river broadens to meet the sea. Legend says the first Dayne was led to the site when he followed the track of a falling star and there found a stone of magical powers. His descendants ruled over the western mountains for centuries thereafter as Kings of the Torrentine and Lords of Starfall.

Now we know what the First Dayne did with this fallen star, he forged Dawn.(dawn-valyrian-steel-the-black-white-trees) 

 

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A Clash of Kings - Bran III

"Was there one who was best of all?"

"The finest knight I ever saw was Ser Arthur Dayne, who fought with a blade called Dawn, forged from the heart of a fallen star. They called him the Sword of the Morning, and he would have killed me but for Howland Reed." Father had gotten sad then, and he would say no more. Bran wished he had asked him what he meant.

We also have legend from Asshai-The Great Empire of the Dawn of Azor Ahai (Huzhor Amai)

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A Clash of Kings - Davos I

It was a time when darkness lay heavy on the world. To oppose it, the hero must have a hero's blade, oh, like none that had ever been. And so for thirty days and thirty nights Azor Ahai labored sleepless in the temple, forging a blade in the sacred fires. Heat and hammer and fold, heat and hammer and fold, oh, yes, until the sword was done. Yet when he plunged it into water to temper the steel it burst asunder

"Being a hero, it was not for him to shrug and go in search of excellent grapes such as these, so again he began. The second time it took him fifty days and fifty nights, and this sword seemed even finer than the first. Azor Ahai captured a lion, to temper the blade by plunging it through the beast's red heart, but once more the steel shattered and split. Great was his woe and great was his sorrow then, for he knew what he must do.

"A hundred days and a hundred nights he labored on the third blade, and as it glowed white-hot in the sacred fires, he summoned his wife. 'Nissa Nissa,' he said to her, for that was her name, 'bare your breast, and know that I love you best of all that is in this world.' She did this thing, why I cannot say, and AzorAhai thrust the smoking sword through her living heart. It is said that her cry of anguish and ecstasy left a crack across the face of the moon, but her blood and her soul and her strength and her courage all went into the steel. Such is the tale of the forging of Lightbringer, the Red Sword of Heroes.

So here we have the full story of him following the fallen star and forging Lightbringer-Dawn from it, by sacrificing his wife Nissa Nissa. Who was likely his sister wife, the Amethyst Empress who had inherited their father's throne, while Azor had carved out his own of his mother's old lands. Note that the Star has fallen, the Black stone worshiped by the Bloodstone emperor, then comes the breaking of the moon which in myth is tied to the birth of Dragons. Yet, here we can clearly see that the Star had already fallen, so the birth of dragons is not tied to the falling star, but something else happening around the same time. Something others just linked to these other occurring events that they are witnessing from the outside. 

Dragons who are mentioned to have come from the Shadows beyond Asshai from an ancient peoples no longer on the planet, who's Empire had collapsed. An Empire that had stretched as far as Yeen in Sothoryos to Westeros to Essos. Where they had acquired Wyverns and Firewyrms and mated them through Skinchanging (remember the Manticore-Sphinx), who had broke the laws of Skinchanging by doing such. In their journey to learn these arts, they had spent too much time in the Wyverns and Firewyrms they saught to mate, and their souls merged to that of the beast.

The Bloodstone Emperor-Azor Ahai-Huzhor Amai- Hugor of the Hill, founded a religion that would become the Faith of the Seven and The Church of Starry Wisdom, who seem to have gone through a reformation. 

So this concludes our look at the east for now and shows The First King-Garth the Green-the Grey King, comes from both the Empire of the Dawn and the Fisher Queens of the Silver Sea. Helping to spread these wide and varied stories as they encompass so many lands. How he came from Essos on Weirwood boats bring magic fire and Dragons to establish his rule and Westeros and find this fallen stone to forge a magic sword from it. The sword Dawn, weapon of the Sword of the Morning-Lightbringer- Lucifer/Jesus.  Who, like Abraham of the Bible, was father of many faiths (Jews, Muslims, Christians linked by the Old Testament).

Who is the Fiery Lion looking Dragon with Antlers like a Deer, who is the supreme god capable of shape shifting into any animal. The Pakhangba of our Story-Naga (Nagga). 

Now before moving forward to Essos. Lets take a quick minute to mention the Lengi. Different than the Bright Eyed people of Yi-Ti who wore monkey hats (Amethyst (Purple) Empress- Woman with monkey's tail (Purple flower) who was a hero of Yiti during the Long Night. The Lengi were the tallest peoples of the known world growing even as tall as 8 ft and having golden eyes that helped them see better than any other. This sounds like the children of the Bloodstone Emperor and his Tiger bride (CotF) who had created giants gifted of Greensight and Skinchanging. The Tagaez Fen who helped Huzhor conquer the tribes of men neighboring the Silver Sea, and enslaving them. 

 

So now lets look at Westeros and try to sift through the accounts of information coming from these old tales and also the crazy claims of some Maesters, laughed at by their peers. 

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So one of the first things were told about the encounters of these arriving peoples to Westeros via Essos their Weirwood boats, is that they quickly came to war with the CotF and Giants of those lands, likely an old feud stemming back from Essos. 

 

These must have been the times of Garth as the Known Grey King following the Old Way of Pirating before converting to the faith of the CotF. Founding such sea faring Houses as House Dayne, Hightower, Tarth and the Iron Islands, who are among the Walrus men (Salt Kings). The times of Garth demanding blood sacrifices before the Pact on the Gods Eye brought an age of peace and an Age of Heroes. Said to be marked by the forming of the Greenmen of the God's Eye. Whom sound similar to Garth the Green. Tales from the Age of Heroes also mentions a Green King of the God's Eye. Could this be Garth the Green ruling from the center as High King while his family go on to rule the separate 7 kingdoms? Sounds like thats the case. These peoples would be known as the Antler men (Rock Kings) and followers of the New way.

 

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Reach: Garth Greenhand

 

Of all these, the greatest was his firstborn, Garth the Gardener, who made his home on the hill atop the Mander that in time became known as Highgarden, and wore a crown of flowers and vines. All of Garth Greenhand's other children did the Gardener homage as the rightful king of all men, everywhere. From his loins sprang House Gardener, whose kings ruled the Reach beneath the banner of a green hand for many thousands of years, until Aegon the Dragon and his sisters came to Westeros.

 

John the Oak, the First Knight, who brought chivalry to Westeros (a huge man, all agree, eight feet tall in some tales, ten or twelve feet tall in others, sired by Garth Greenhand on a giantess). His own descendants became the Oakhearts of Old Oak.

Gilbert of the Vines, who taught the men of the Arbor to make sweet wine from the grapes that grew so fat and lush across their island, and who founded House Redwyne.

Florys the Fox, the cleverest of Garth's children, who kept three husbands, each ignorant of the existence of the others. (From their sons sprang House Florent, House Ball, and House Peake).

Maris the Maid, the Most Fair, whose beauty was so renowned that fifty lords vied for her hand at the first tourney ever to be held in Westeros. (The victor was the Grey Giant, Argoth Stone-Skin, but Maris wed King Uthor of the High Tower before he could claim her, and Argoth spent the rest of his days raging outside the walls of Oldtown, roaring for his bride.)

Foss the Archer, renowned for shooting apples off the head of any maid who took his fancy, from whom both the red apple and green apple Fossoways trace their descent.

Brandon of the Bloody Blade, who drove the giants from the Reach and warred against the children of the forest, slaying so many at Blue Lake that it has been known as Red Lake ever since.

Owen Oakenshield, who conquered the Shield Islands, driving the selkies and merlings back into the sea.

Harlon the Hunter and Herndon of the Horn, twin brothers who built their castle atop Horn Hill and took to wife the beautiful woods witch who dwelled there, sharing her favors for a hundred years (for the brothers did not age so long as they embraced her whenever the moon was full).

Bors the Breaker, who gained the strength of twenty men by drinking only bull's blood, and founded House Bulwer of Blackcrown. (Some tales claim Bors drank so much bull's blood he grew a pair of shiny black horns.)

Rose of Red Lake, a skinchanger, able to transform into a crane at will—a power some say still manifests from time to time in the women of House Crane, her descendants.

Ellyn Ever Sweet, the girl who loved honey so much she sought out the King of the Bees in his vast mountain hive and made a pact with him, to care for his children and his children's children for all time. She was the first beekeeper, and the mother to House Beesbury.

Rown Gold-Tree, who was so bereft when her lover left her for a rich rival that she wrapped an apple in her golden hair, planted it upon a hill, and grew a tree whose bark and leaves and fruit were gleaming yellow gold, and to whose daughters the Rowans of Goldengrove trace their roots.

 

The list is long, and many are the legends, for there is scarce a noble house in all the Reach that does not boast of descent from one of Garth Greenhand's countless children. Even the heroes of other lands and kingdoms are sometimes numbered amongst the offspring of the Greenhand. Brandon the Builder was descended from Garth by way of Brandon of the Bloody Blade, these tales would have us believe, whilst Lann the Clever was a bastard born to Florys the Fox in some tales or Rowan Gold-Tree in others. However, Lann the Clever's descent from Garth Greenhand is a tale told in the Reach. In the westerlands, it is more oft said that Lann cozened Garth Greenhand himself by posing as one of his sons (Garth had so many that ofttimes he grew confused), thus making off with part of the inheritance that rightly belonged to Garth's true children.

 

 

It is also said

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Reach: Garth Greenhand

A thousand tales are told of Garth, in the Reach and beyond. Most are implausible, and many contradictory. In some he is a contemporary of Bran the Builder, Lann the Clever, Durran Godsgrief, and the other colorful figures of the Age of Heroes. In others he stands as the ancestor of them all.

 

 

Now Bran and Lann can be found in the quote just above listed to some of Garth's children, while Durran is not directly listed ever. This is because i believe Durran is Garth. Who's realm he ruled stretched from the Storm lands, to the River Lands, to The Iron Islands. Ruling from the center at the God's Eye. This is the reason the Storm Kings and Ironborn Kings fought for the Riverlands. This is why Harren and his family would give up their strength at Sea to become Antler men of the Main land. The Gods Eye is the seat of the High King. 

 

And so lets look again at some of our earlier quotes.

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The World of Ice and Fire - Ancient History: The Long Night

Archmaester Fomas's Lies of the Ancients—though little regarded these days for its erroneous claims regarding the founding of Valyria and certain lineal claims in the Reach and westerlands—

 

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Reach: The Gardener Kings

In those centuries of trial and tumult, the Reach produced many a fearless warrior. From that day to this, the singers have celebrated the deeds of knights like Serwyn of the Mirror Shield, Davos the Dragonslayer, Roland of the Horn, and the Knight Without Armor—and the legendary kings who led them, among them Garth V (Hammer of the Dornish), Gwayne I (the Gallant), Gyles I (the Woe), Gareth II (the Grim), Garth VI (the Morningstar), and Gordan I (Grey-Eyes).

 

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - Ancient History: The Age of Heroes

 But when the singers number Serwyn of the Mirror Shield as one of the Kingsguard—an institution that was only formed during the reign of Aegon the Conqueror—we can see why it is that few of these tales can ever be trusted. The septons who first wrote them down took what details suited them and added others, and the singers changed them—sometimes beyond all recognition—for the sake of a warm place in some lord's hall. In such a way does some longdead First Man become a knight who follows the Seven and guards the Targaryen kings thousands of years after he lived (if he ever did). The legion of boys and youths made ignorant of the past history of Westeros by these foolish tales cannot be numbered.

 

 

So now, here, during the Age of Heroes, following the pact, in the line of House Gardener, sits our Targaryen (Dragon) kings who have knights and Dragon slayers serving them in a Kings Guard protecting a Daeryssa. In this time we are also told of the Rainbow Knight. Which brings to mind the Rainbow Kingsguard of Renly Baratheon who faced off against his fiery stag heart brother.

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A Clash of Kings - Catelyn III

Renly would be last to arrive. He had told her as much when she set out. He did not propose to mount his horse until he saw his brother well on his way. The first to arrive must wait on the other, and Renly would do no waiting. It is a sort of game kings play, she told herself. Well, she was no king, so she need not play it. Catelyn was practiced at waiting.

As he neared, she saw that Stannis wore a crown of red gold with points fashioned in the shape of flames. His belt was studded with garnets and yellow topaz, and a great square-cut ruby was set in the hilt of the sword he wore. Otherwise his dress was plain: studded leather jerkin over quilted doublet, worn boots, breeches of brown roughspun. The device on his sun-yellow banner showed a red heart surrounded by a blaze of orange fire. The crowned stag was there, yes . . . shrunken and enclosed within the heart. Even more curious was his standard bearer—a woman, garbed all in reds, face shadowed within the deep hood of her scarlet cloak. A red priestess, Catelyn thought, wondering. The sect was numerous and powerful in the Free Cities and the distant east, but there were few in the Seven Kingdoms.

"Lady Stark," Stannis Baratheon said with chill courtesy as he reined up. He inclined his head, balder than she remembered.

 

"And brothers," a cheerful voice called out behind her. Catelyn glanced over her shoulder as Lord Renly's palfrey picked her way through the stumps. The younger Baratheon was splendid in his green velvet doublet and satin cloak trimmed in vair. The crown of golden roses girded his temples, jade stag's head rising over his forehead, long black hair spilling out beneath. Jagged chunks of black diamond studded his swordbelt, and a chain of gold and emeralds looped around his neck.

Renly had chosen a woman to carry his banner as well, though Brienne hid face and form behind plate armor that gave no hint of her sex. Atop her twelve-foot lance, the crowned stag pranced black-on-gold as the wind off the sea rippled the cloth.

His brother's greeting was curt. "Lord Renly."

 

 

So here is our brothers in opposition. 

 

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A Clash of Kings - Catelyn II

 

The crowned stag decorated the king's green velvet tunic as well, worked in gold thread upon his chest; the Baratheon sigil in the colors of Highgarden. The girl who shared the high seat with him was also of Highgarden: his young queen, Margaery, daughter to Lord Mace Tyrell. Their marriage was the mortar that held the great southron alliance together, Catelyn knew. Renly was one-and-twenty, the girl no older than Robb, very pretty, with a doe's soft eyes and a mane of curling brown hair that fell about her shoulders in lazy ringlets. Her smile was shy and sweet.

Out in the field, another man lost his seat to the knight in the rainbow-striped cloak, and the king shouted approval with the rest. "Loras!" she heard him call. "Loras! Highgarden!" The queen clapped her hands together in excitement.

Catelyn turned to see the end of it. Only four men were left in the fight now, and there was small doubt whom king and commons favored. She had never met Ser Loras Tyrell, but even in the distant north one heard tales of the prowess of the young Knight of Flowers. Ser Loras rode a tall white stallion in silver mail, and fought with a long-handled axe. A crest of golden roses ran down the center of his helm.

The blue knight charged into it. The stallions slammed together, the blunted axehead smashed against the scarred blue breastplate . . . but somehow the blue knight had the haft locked between steel-gauntleted fingers. He wrenched it from Ser Loras's hand, and suddenly the two were grappling mount-to-mount, and an instant later they were falling. As their horses pulled apart, they crashed to the ground with bone-jarring force. Loras Tyrell, on the bottom, took the brunt of the impact. The blue knight pulled a long dirk free and flicked open Tyrell's visor. The roar of the crowd was too loud for Catelyn to hear what Ser Loras said, but she saw the word form on his split, bloody lips. Yield.

 

 

So here we have Renly, represented by the Stag and a woman in blue armor, guarded by his Rainbow guard facing off against his older brother, represented by the flaming stag withing a heart, who has a red priestess with him. This i believe to be a key element of the past epic. Of brothers fighting, possibly for a woman as ill show later, with dragons, in what was the original Dance of Dragons.

 

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A Game of Thrones - Bran II

Bran was going to be a knight himself someday, one of the Kingsguard. Old Nan said they were the finest swords in all the realm. There were only seven of them, and they wore white armor and had no wives or children, but lived only to serve the king. Bran knew all the stories. Their names were like music to him. Serwyn of the Mirror Shield. Ser Ryam Redwyne. Prince Aemon the Dragonknight. The twins Ser Erryk and Ser Arryk, who had died on one another's swords hundreds of years ago, when brother fought sister in the war the singers called the Dance of the Dragons. The White Bull, Gerold Hightower. Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning. Barristan the Bold.

 

A Clash of Kings - Tyrion I

His sister looked very unhappy. "Janos should have sent more men. He is not as competent as might be wished."

"Ser Barristan was the Lord Commander of Robert Baratheon's Kingsguard," Tyrion reminded her pointedly. "He and Jaime are the only survivors of Aerys Targaryen's seven. The smallfolk talk of him in the same way they talk of Serwyn of the Mirror Shield and Prince Aemon the Dragonknight. What do you imagine they'll think when they see Barristan the Bold riding beside Robb Stark or Stannis Baratheon?"

 

A Storm of Swords - Sansa VI

"I also planted the notion of Ser Loras taking the white. Not that I suggested it, that would have been too crude. But men in my party supplied grisly tales about how the mob had killed Ser Preston Greenfield and raped the Lady Lollys, and slipped a few silvers to Lord Tyrell's army of singers to sing of Ryam Redwyne, Serwyn of the Mirror Shield, and Prince Aemon the Dragonknight. A harp can be as dangerous as a sword, in the right hands.

 

The Hedge Knight

Dunk stared at the grassy lists and the empty chairs on the viewing stand and pondered his chances. One victory was all he needed; then he could name himself one of the champions of Ashford Meadow, if only for an hour. The old man had lived nigh on sixty years and had never been a champion. It is not too much to hope for, if the gods are good. He thought back on all the songs he had heard, songs of blind Symeon Star-Eyes and noble Serwyn of the Mirror Shield, of Prince Aemon the Dragonknight, Ser Ryam Redywne, and Florian the Fool. They had all won victories against foes far more terrible than any he would face. But they were great heroes, brave men of noble birth, except for Florian. And what am I?

A Feast for Crows - Brienne I

But she had another longsword hidden in her bedroll. She sat on the bed and took it out. Gold glimmered yellow in the candlelight and rubies smoldered red. When she slid Oathkeeper from the ornate scabbard, Brienne's breath caught in her throat. Black and red the ripples ran, deep within the steel. Valyrian steel, spell-forged. It was a sword fit for a hero. When she was small, her nurse had filled her ears with tales of valor, regaling her with the noble exploits of Ser Galladon of Morne, Florian the Fool, Prince Aemon the Dragonknight, and other champions. Each man bore a famous sword, and surely Oathkeeper belonged in their company, even if she herself did not. "You'll be defending Ned Stark's daughter with Ned Stark's own steel," Jaime had promised.

 

A Clash of Kings - Sansa VI

For those who remained, a singer was brought forth to fill the hall with the sweet music of the high harp. He sang of Jonquil and Florian, of Prince Aemon the Dragonknight and his love for his brother's queen, of Nymeria's ten thousand ships. They were beautiful songs, but terribly sad. Several of the women began to weep, and Sansa felt her own eyes growing moist.

 

 

So we can see in the quotes above that Serwyn of the Mirror Shield is often paired and linked to Aemon the Dragon Knight, who was a Targaryen Knight and brother to the Targaryen Dragon King Aegon IV of whom both loved their sister Naerys. So we get a repeating theme represented in Serwyn, Aemon and others even Like Bloodraven and Bitter Steel. It may even be that the current Aegon is real and will fight Jon for Dany. Either way, this is definitely a reoccurring theme that can even be flipped as in the case of Aegon and his two sisters.

Note also that the Knights of the Gardener kings are listed as Dragon Slayers, and it's not likely that theyre killing their own kings dragons, especially since we have Dragon Killers in other lands such as Florian the Fool

 

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The Hedge Knight

He found Egg at the puppet show, sitting crosslegged on the ground with the hood of his cloak pulled all the way forward to hide his baldness. The boy had been afraid to enter the castle, which Dunk put down to equal parts shyness and shame. He does not think himself worthy to mingle with lords and ladies, let alone great princes. It had been the same with him when he was little. The world beyond Flea Bottom had seemed as frightening as it was exciting. Egg needs time, that's all. For the present, it seemed kinder to give the lad a few coppers and let him enjoy himself among the stalls than to drag him along unwilling into the castle.

This morning the puppeteers were doing the tale of Florian and Jonquil. The fat Dornishwoman was working Florian in his armor made of motley, while the tall girl held Jonquil's strings. "You are no knight," she was saying as the puppet's mouth moved up and down. "I know you. You are Florian the Fool."

"I am, my lady," the other puppet answered, kneeling. "As great a fool as ever lived, and as great a knight as well."

"A fool and a knight?" said Jonquil. "I have never heard of such a thing."

"Sweet lady," said Florian, "all men are fools, and all men are knights, where women are concerned."

It was a good show, sad and sweet both, with a sprightly swordfight at the end, and a nicely painted giant. When it was over, the fat woman went among the crowd to collect coins while the girl packed away the puppets.

Dunk collected Egg and went up to her.

"M'lord?" she said, with a sideways glance and a half-smile. She was a head shorter than he was, but still taller than any other girl he had ever seen.

"That was good," Egg enthused. "I like how you make them move, Jonquil and the dragon and all. I saw a puppet show last year, but they moved all jerky. Yours are more smooth."

 

 plus we also have Ser Clarence Crabb 

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A Feast for Crows - Brienne IV

"Honor," she said. "The point is honor."

That only made him laugh the louder. "Ser Clarence Crabb would have wiped his hairy arse with your Perfect Knight, m'lady. If they'd ever have met, there'd be one more bloody head sitting on the shelf at the Whispers, you ask me. 'I should have used the magic sword,' it'd be saying to all the other heads. 'I shouldhave used the bloody sword.'"

Brienne could not help but smile. "Perhaps," she allowed, "but Ser Galladon was no fool. Against a foe eight feet tall mounted on an aurochs, he might well have unsheathed the Just Maid. He used her once to slay a dragon, they say."

Nimble Dick was unimpressed. "Crackbones fought a dragon too, but he didn't need no magic sword. He just tied its neck in a knot, so every time it breathed fire it roasted its own arse."

 "He was dead. M'lady must know that." Crabb gave her a sideways look. "Aegon sent his sister up to Crackclaw, that Visenya. The lords had heard o' Harren's end. Being no fools, they laid their swords at her feet. The queen took them as her own men, and said they'd owe no fealty to Maidenpool, Crab Isle, or Duskendale. Don't stop them bloody Celtigars from sending men to t' eastern shore to collect his taxes. If he sends enough, a few come back to him . . . elsewise, we bow only to our own lords, and the king. The true king, not Robert and his ilk." He spat. "There was Crabbs and Brunes and Boggses with Prince Rhaegar on the Trident, and in the Kingsguard too. A Hardy, a Cave, a Pyne, and three Crabbs, Clement and Rupert and Clarence the Short. Six foot tall, he was, but short compared to the real Ser Clarence. We're all good dragon men, up Crackclaw way."

 

 

So there definitely seems to have been a war of Dragons on Dragons through the sons of The First King. Who came to war over the love of a woman.

 

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This is shown in two other Tourney's.

The Tourney of Harrenhal with Rhaegar wearing red rubies and black armor giving a blue rose to a Stark

The Tourney of the Hand with Loras wearing blue saphire and Silver-White armor giving a red rose to a Stark.

Both sides descended from Garth The Green.

 

So what story do we have back then to show us this is the case? The Story of Uthor of the Hightower who wed the daughter of Garth the Green.

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Reach: Garth Greenhand

Maris the Maid, the Most Fair, whose beauty was so renowned that fifty lords vied for her hand at the first tourney ever to be held in Westeros. (The victor was the Grey Giant, Argoth Stone-Skin, but Maris wed King Uthor of the High Tower before he could claim her, and Argoth spent the rest of his days raging outside the walls of Oldtown, roaring for his bride.)

So here we have an ancient Tourney in Westeros, the First. In which the prize to the victor was the hand or Maris the Maid. Yet Uthor took her (Wildling custom) and Argos Stone-Kin who was the victor and a giant (as was alot of the sons of Garth if not all) raged out side his walls for the rest of his life. This sounds like the Others (Stonemen-death) raging outside the wall. 

 

So judging by the tales of Serwyn, and Aemon the Dragon Knights, i would venture that Argos and Uthor were brothers.

 

So we should expect to here about a wedding around this time too, and a wedding is what we get with Durran God's Grief.

 

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A Clash of Kings - Catelyn III

The songs said that Storm's End had been raised in ancient days by Durran, the first Storm King, who had won the love of the fair Elenei, daughter of the sea god and the goddess of the wind. On the night of their wedding, Elenei had yielded her maidenhood to a mortal's love and thus doomed herself to a mortal's death, and her grieving parents had unleashed their wrath and sent the winds and waters to batter down Durran's hold. His friends and brothers and wedding guests were crushed beneath collapsing walls or blown out to sea, but Elenei sheltered Durran within her arms so he took no harm, and when the dawn came at last he declared war upon the gods and vowed to rebuild.

Five more castles he built, each larger and stronger than the last, only to see them smashed asunder when the gale winds came howling up Shipbreaker Bay, driving great walls of water before them. His lords pleaded with him to build inland; his priests told him he must placate the gods by giving Elenei back to the sea; even his smallfolk begged him to relent. Durran would have none of it. A seventh castle he raised, most massive of all. Some said the children of the forest helped him build it, shaping the stones with magic; others claimed that a small boy told him what he must do, a boy who would grow to be Bran the Builder. No matter how the tale was told, the end was the same. Though the angry gods threw storm after storm against it, the seventh castle stood defiant, and Durran Godsgrief and fair Elenei dwelt there together until the end of their days.

Durran who is said to have used the CotF to build his great castle and then turned around and took the Rainwood away from them, breaking the Pact, though, the Children may have broke it first. Who did? What smashed his castle? Garth came to Westeros for the fallen Star to forge a sword, so this doesnt seem like the same event. Yet maybe they are, maybe the first castle wasn't at Storm's End. Elenai protected Durran untill the Dawn came. Is Elenai our female hero with a monkey's tail (purple-Valyrian connection)? Is this the Darkness and Dawn of the legendary Long Night? If so, then the final form of the Castle wasn't till after the Long Night. 

 

As we speak of this falling star we must also speak of the breaking of the Arm of Dorne and the Flooding of the Neck. Which are said to have happened before the pact, though we do not know for sure. Was this breaking the same falling star that Garth had followed to forge the sword out of? It wouldn't seem so, as it would have had to have fallen first for him to follow. So it seems as though the Breaking might have been a natural event, rather than the work of the CotF or the Falling Star. 

 

Unless Garth came to Westeros seeking something else, though what i could not say. As there seems to have been CotF and Weirwoods in Essos at some time, if not still. So im still inclined to think the Breaking of the Arm of Dorne was a natural event attributed to the CotF through ignorance and fear. 

 

Yet the Maester suggest this of Storm's End and it's seven forms.

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Stormlands: Andals in the Stormlands

Yet it is an error to assert that the Storm Kings turned back the invaders. For all their victories, they never stemmed the Andal tide; though many an Andal king and warlord ended with his head impaled upon a spike above the gates of Storm's End, still the Andals kept coming. The reverse is also true; the Andals never truly conquered the line of Durrandon. Seven times they laid siege to Storm's End or sought to storm its mighty walls, history tells us; seven times they failed. The seventh failure was seen as a sign from the gods; after that, no further assaults were made.

 

The World of Ice and Fire - The Stormlands: Storm’s End

It is said that, every seventy-seven years, a storm greater than all others comes howling down upon Storm's End, as the old gods of sea and sky try once more to blow Durran's seat into the sea. It is a pretty tale...but a tale is all it is. The records of the maesters of Storm's End show that there are fierce storms nearly every year, especially in autumn, and whilst some are greater than others, there are no records that show unusually powerful storms seventy-seven years apart. The greatest storm in living memory was in 221 AC, in the last year of the reign of Aerys I, and the greatest before that was the storm of 166 AC, fifty-five years earlier.

 

 

So what was the seven storms that hit Storm's End? Could it have been the Andals? Those of Black hair and heart, who are one of the many children of Garth and followers of one of his religions. Not of the Amethyst Empress, the Andals would war with the Ametheyst's descendants, the Valyrians, who had first formed in Westeros under the Gardener Kings. Untill these early Andals-Ghiscari arrived to make war upon them, as early sons of Garth under the Old Way, and walrus men who followed Argos into war against his brother of House Gardener for Maris-Elenai. With dragons upon dragons, possibly ice and fire ones. 

 

Now this starts to build us up towards the Azor Ahai- Nissa Nissa prophecy, which would seem to suggest that some of these events are indeed happening in Essos before the star had fallen, at his first castle possibly on Leng or in the Mountains of Shadow above Asshai. What we do know though, is that this Empire stretched from the Thousand Islands to Asshai, to Sothoryos, to Lorath, to Westeros, covering most the known world. So it may be that these tales take place over multiple places. Our man was a builder of Empires and many great structures. Present in the myths of Brandon the Builder.  Which reminds me, we must discuss the Curse of the First King. For this is what causes Argos to be Stone-kin (an Other) as he saught to become High King of all. The side of the Walrus men, the Andals, the Black Blood. Who's kingdom had ruled along side his brothers ( Remember Serwyn and the Knights serving Gardener Kings long after Garth I ) untill he sought to take it all fighting for their sister. (Remember, Harren, nor the Storm Kings after dared conquer river, Isle, and Storm all together.) Until then though, the two sides had lived in balance, something represented by House Hightower of the Walrus Men who had wed into the Antler men.

 

Something celebrated by the forming of the Citidel, and represented by the God's Wood on the Grounds and the Sphinx on the Grounds. Under the control of House Hightower, the last likely memebers of the Order of the Greenhand, who had mostly died on the Field of Fire except for House Manderly who was in the North, and House Hightower who had not taken the fields due to prophecy.

 

So, now we come to Azor Ahai and the Nissa Nissa moment. In which our Suitor kills his bride as a sacrifice to stop his evil brother and his armies of the dead. Which may have halted the war in and of it's self, as both sides were fighting over her, and he killed her as a sacrifice to end the war. Possibly spurned on by visions sent to him by the CotF. Who through out the brothers fighting each other, are getting exactly what they want. The curse they placed years ago, taking effect as the two brothers go to war, dwindling human numbers, which raise again to fight for the Others and the bad brother. Yet this swings things to far extremes as now the balance of Ice and Fire, Life and Death, is completely out of wack. So the CotF must team up with the Last Hero to help build the wall to hold back the armies of the Dead. They form the Night's Watch who fight the Others in the War for the Dawn. 

 

Yet the his Bride returned to him, dead.

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A Storm of Swords - Bran IV

As the sun began to set the shadows of the towers lengthened and the wind blew harder, sending gusts of dry dead leaves rattling through the yards. The gathering gloom put Bran in mind of another of Old Nan's stories, the tale of Night's King. He had been the thirteenth man to lead the Night's Watch, she said; a warrior who knew no fear. "And that was the fault in him," she would add, "for all men must know fear." A woman was his downfall; a woman glimpsed from atop the Wall, with skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue stars. Fearing nothing, he chased her and caught her and loved her, though her skin was cold as ice, and when he gave his seed to her he gave his soul as well.

He brought her back to the Nightfort and proclaimed her a queen and himself her king, and with strange sorceries he bound his Sworn Brothers to his will. For thirteen years they had ruled, Night's King and his corpse queen, till finally the Stark of Winterfell and Joramun of the wildlings had joined to free the Watch from bondage. After his fall, when it was found he had been sacrificing to the Others, all records of Night's King had been destroyed, his very name forbidden.

"Some say he was a Bolton," Old Nan would always end. "Some say a Magnar out of Skagos, some say Umber, Flint, or Norrey. Some would have you think he was a Woodfoot, from them who ruled Bear Island before the ironmen came. He never was. He was a Stark, the brother of the man who brought him down." She always pinched Bran on the nose then, he would never forget it. "He was a Stark of Winterfell, and who can say? Mayhaps his name was Brandon. Mayhaps he slept in this very bed in this very room."

 

The World of Ice and Fire - The Wall and Beyond: The Night’s Watch

Yet over the thousands of years of its existence as the chief seat of the Watch, the Nightfort has accrued many legends of its own, some of which have been recounted in Archmaester Harmune's Watchers on the Wall. The oldest of these tales concern the legendary Night's King, the thirteenth Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, who was alleged to have bedded a sorceress pale as a corpse and declared himself a king. For thirteen years the Night's King and his "corpse queen" ruled together, before King of Winter, Brandon the Breaker, (in alliance, it is said, with the King-Beyond-the-Wall, Joramun) brought them down. Thereafter, he obliterated the Night's King's very name from memory.

In the Citadel, the archmaesters largely dismiss these tales—though some allow that there may have been a Lord Commander who attempted to carve out a kingdom for himself in the earliest days of the Watch. Some suggest that perhaps the corpse queen was a woman of the Barrowlands, a daughter of the Barrow King who was then a power in his own right, and oft associated with graves. The Night's King has been said to have been variously a Bolton, a Woodfoot, an Umber, a Flint, a Norrey, or even a Stark, depending on where the tale is told. Like all tales, it takes on the attributes that make it most appealing to those who tell it.

 

 

So he turned for her, possibly realizing that with the Other's reduced in numbers and the possible rise in dragons would throw things out of balance, sought to restore balance by sacrificing to the Others to replenish their numbers. Hard to say for sure, but either way, he turned to the side of the Others and was brought down for it. 

 

Following the fall of the Others and the Long Night, Valyria would rise up and the Dragons would dominate the world. Throwing things out of balance. With the early Andals arriving from the East during the Long Night under such as Artys Arryn the Falcon Knigh-The Winged Knight. They helped to put an end to the Dragons in Westeros, and have sought after to keep the balance. But with the fall of Valyria and the fall of the Targaryen dragons, balance has once again been thrown to one side. As too much of either, is bad. There must be balance, or there must be none of it. 

 

The final battle may perhaps be fought between two brothers over the love of their sister. Jon vs Aegon for Daenerys.  (Yes i think Dany and Jon are the children of Rhaegar, the-dayne-heiress-daenerys)

[AlaskanSandman]

If i had to guess i was wrong about something, it would be the Garth the Green and the Grey King relationship. 

The other strong possibility is that the Grey King and Durran were the brothers and sons of Garth the Green. 

As The Grey King lived for 1007 and he's our Andal-Other, Dark Hair, Old way Salt King side and Durran lived for 1000 years and is our Fiery Antler Valyrian blonde hair side of New way followers and Rock Kings.

While Garth the Green is said to have lived possibly much much longer than 1000 years.

[AlaskanSandman]

I just wanted to further explain the curse of Garth the Green the First King, was said to turn the person corpse like in their appearance. 

So if Durran and the Grey King are the son's of Garth, this explains everything perfectly. The Grey King was said to take a mermaid to wife and Durran wed's some one who sounds as though they could be a mermaid. This is the same bride that Durran stole from his brother. 

So when the Grey King (Salt King) wagged war on his brother and tried to claim Durran's lands (Rock King), he tried to rival his father Garth the Green, thus setting into motion the curse that led to the Others. 

The Corpse Queen who comes to the Night's King is this mermaid brought back from the dead. She is also listed as the Daughter of the Barrow King. Thus she would be as the First Barrow King was Garth and she was his daughter.

[Ralphis Baratheon]

A bit off topic but Garth Greenhand always reminded me of John Chapman, better known as Johnny Appleseed. Granted he only lived to 70,  but back then 70 was considered pretty old. Oddly enough he never married but he still spread his seeds.

[AlaskanSandman]

9 hours ago, Ralphis Baratheon said:

A bit off topic but Garth Greenhand always reminded me of John Chapman, better known as Johnny Appleseed. Granted he only lived to 70,  but back then 70 was considered pretty old. Oddly enough he never married but he still spread his seeds.

Garth definitely has influence or similarities between him and Johnny. Both planted and made the land bloom, and both planted their seeds everywhere. Garth both literally and metaphorically with his many children.

Bridging the myths of Asoiaf. We are told that Garth was the rumored first king, but that the First King was buried in the North with a curse on his barrow that would make any who tried to rival him turn corpse like in appearance. Which sounds like The Grey King, who turned grey over the course of his long rule. 

The Grey King was also said to have wed a mermaid and Durran weds what sounds like a mermaid too. 

Your right, Garth is also never listed to have married.

The exact order or narrative of events is a lil hazy though. As far as when Dawn was forged in accordance to the two brothers warring over their sister who was the Empress. Hence 2 brothers fighting over a sister/Throne. This is why the analogy of Stannis vs Renly works as both are warring over the throne  instead of a literal woman.

The forging of Dawn marks the death of Nissa Nissa the Amethyst Empress though. 

The next tale we're told is of the Night's Watch uniting and winning the War for the Dawn. With the Night's King popping up after the war for some reason. With him falling for a corpse bride on the other side of the wall that he gives his soul and seed too. This sounds like the Grey King died and she was left alone after the war. With the Night's king switching sides and helping her to replenish the Others. Only to be brought down by his son, the now Stark King in Winterfell. 

This makes me wonder who died in the 2nd war? Did the Night's King? or did his corpse bride? With a story where people can live for hundreds of years, im not convinced one of them isn't still alive. Just which one? I would guess the Night's King as Daenery's chapters seem to forshadow her birthing and full filling the role of Nissa Nissa.

[AlaskanSandman]

Upon writing this i was initially torn between the debate of whether Garth and the Grey King were one in the same or brothers. As there is the added piece of the Grey King having a loyal older brother.

The idea that the Grey King was neither but rather the child of Garth and brother to Durran who was the loyal older brother came to me by the end of this essay and much consideration of the narrative and the clues at hand.

As one was Rock King and one was Salt King, Durran was loyal with his brother, up till he stole his bride. 

The Grey King being the Salt King who tried to also become Rock king fits the curse of the First king best IMO. 

This has been an on going theory of mine going back to the other year when i posted a thread listing Garth as the Merling King, but was still missing pieces and how they fit. I was on the right track though i think. 

Some of my thoughts have been rather like liquid as such. Leaving room for error on my part and recalculating the information.

This goes beyond just a theory on the past, as this is the narrative i believe of our current story at hand and tells us how the story must really end. I hope any one who has taken the time to read this all has found it entertaining and thoughtful at the least and will forgive me for changing thought regarding to how the clues all properly fit. 

[AlaskanSandman]

Other than parallels between Aemon the Dragon Knight vs Aegon IV for Naerys, Daemon vs Daeron for Daenerys, Visenya vs Rhaenys for Aegon, and Stannis vs Renly for a throne. Their may be parallels in the stories of who these people are and how they acted.  Take Stannis and Renly in comparison to Visenya and Rhaeny. The younger being the more lively, fun, beautiful one while the older is the stern one tied to Dark Magics.  This is almost an exact comparison of the Old Way (pirating and just taking stuff) to the New Way (farming and hard work). One is much more fun, while the other is not. 

There are more parallels im sure but these are some i thought id mention. 

[AlaskanSandman]

As an interesting aside. 

The Grey king= Cold and Death the Others.

Durran= Life and Fire and the Valyrians possibly.

Nissa Nissa= Fertility

Each child of Garth hold different aspects of him. One the Death side of Garth as demonstrated by the darker tales of Garth and death sacrifice. One being the Fire side of Garth who represents the Rhllor figure with Durran being Azor Ahai. Nissa Nissa is thus the fertility goddess needed by either side to procreate and thus the struggle and importance of her. 

Which brings me to Dany and her possible as the fertility goddess. Both bringing dragons back to life and possibly being the key to bringing the Others back to life, or to procreate. Daenerys is believed barren for now, but prophesied to birth again. The Stallion that will Mount the World. 

[AlaskanSandman]

With out tipping my full hand haha

1. The North

2. The Vale

3. The Riverlands

4. The Iron Islands

5. The Westerlands

6. The Reach

7. The Stormlands

8. Dorne

Isn't there another important number in Planetos numerology?...........

wink wink, nudge nudge

What would hypothetically keep Daeron II from "growing corpselike in appearance as his vitality and life is sucked away"?.............

Maybe...think pre- Long Night geography....

Who's your favorite "King beyond the Wall"?

[AlaskanSandman]

 

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A Storm of Swords - Jon VI

Maester Aemon paused, washcloth in hand. "The Horn of Winter is an ancient legend. Does the King-beyond-the-Wall truly believe that such a thing exists?"

"They all do," said Jon. "Ygritte said they opened a hundred graves . . . graves of kings and heroes, all over the valley of the Milkwater, but they never . . ."

 

 

 

 

 

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A Dance with Dragons - Jon III

 

Lady Melisandre watched him rise. "FREE FOLK! Here stands your king of lies. And here is the horn he promised would bring down the Wall." Two queen's men brought forth the Horn of Joramun, black and banded with old gold, eight feet long from end to end. Runes were carved into the golden bands, the writing of the First Men. Joramun had died thousands of years ago, but Mance had found his grave beneath a glacier, high up in the Frostfangs. And Joramun blew the Horn of Winter, and woke giants from the earth. Ygritte had told Jon that Mance never found the horn. She lied, or else Mance kept it secret even from his own.

 

 

 

 

 

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Reign of the Dragons: The Conquest

Then Lady Sharra sent for the three crowns (her own regent's coronet, her son's small crown, and the Falcon Crown of Mountain and Vale that the Arryn kings had worn for a thousand years), and surrendered them to Queen Visenya, along with the swords of her garrison.

 

The World of Ice and Fire - The Vale: House Arryn

The true tale of House Arryn contains neither giants nor griffins nor huge falcons, yet from the day Ser Artys first donned the Falcon Crown to the present, they have rightly held a storied place in the history of the Seven Kingdoms. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[LordBlakeney]

On 11/28/2017 at 2:58 PM, AlaskanSandman said:

With out tipping my full hand haha

1. The North

2. The Vale

3. The Riverlands

4. The Iron Islands

5. The Westerlands

6. The Reach

7. The Stormlands

8. Dorne

Isn't there another important number in Planetos numerology?...........

wink wink, nudge nudge

What would hypothetically keep Daeron II from "growing corpselike in appearance as his vitality and life is sucked away"?.............

Maybe...think pre- Long Night geography....

Who's your favorite "King beyond the Wall"?

... So how does Joramun and the King Beyond the Wall fit into your theory on the sons and daughters of Garth? I like Grey King and Durran being two brothers - sons of Garth - and the antagonists of their respective stories. So what are you getting at with the King Beyond the Wall, the graves Mance disturbed, and your most recent post about the crown of the Falcon Kings of the Vale?

[AlaskanSandman]

Well the thing about the King beyond the wall that im trying to get at, is that there are no true Kings beyond the wall, and that there are allowed none, or a city to happen, like Hardhome.

Westeros before the wall used to include the Kingdom of the North beyond the wall. Making 9 kingdoms. So even though Daeron II united Westeros, he's missing a kingdom in order to activate the curse placed on Garth. Hence the purpose of the wall, to prevent this, or any king beyond the wall or city. 

The pact becomes broken by Hardhome, evident by Valyria taking Dragonstone that same year, and the Freys being installed at the crossing. Valrian steel blades begin to make their way into Westeros following this. Followed closely by Valyria's doom.

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Joramun may have been the Northern most Kings son. I havnt decided on "who" he is yet.