Is there any way at all to prove Gendry is Bobby B son?

[Stormking902]

The title says it all, also im curious to how we the reader learned Gendry is Roberts son besides Ned seeing him in KL and seeing a young Robert in Gendry?. Just because you look like someone doesnt always mean your family. 

[Adam Yozza]

In Westeros that's all the proof there is. The best proof we have is that George says he's Roberts son, so until George says otherwise he is.

[Stormking902]

1 hour ago, Adam Yozza said:

In Westeros that's all the proof there is. The best proof we have is that George says he's Roberts son, so until George says otherwise he is.

Well thats all the proof we need I would say

[Faera]

2 hours ago, Stormking902 said:

The title says it all, also im curious to how we the reader learned Gendry is Roberts son besides Ned seeing him in KL and seeing a young Robert in Gendry?. Just because you look like someone doesnt always mean your family. 

Aside from looking like Robert, no not really.

Unless they have a DNA testing system in Westeros somewhere the only way Gendry would be accepted as Bob B's is if Bob B had acknowledged him. From my understanding, the only bastard who has been publically accepted is Edric Storm. I believe it is also implied by Cersei that he might have privately acknowledged Mya Stone, as well.

Gendry has never been acknowledged publically or privately, so all he has are his looks.

[Bael's Bastard]

3 hours ago, Stormking902 said:

The title says it all, also im curious to how we the reader learned Gendry is Roberts son besides Ned seeing him in KL and seeing a young Robert in Gendry?. Just because you look like someone doesnt always mean your family. 

Prove it? Probably not, though it would likely be more about getting people to believe or support it than proving it in any way. Not sure who would be trying to get people to believe or support it at this point, though.

Jon Arryn deduced that Gendry was Robert's.

Ned Stark deduced that Gendry was Robert's.

Arya concurred that Bella did have hair like Robert's, but dismissed her being Robert's by noting that Gendry has the same black hair.

Brienne sees Gendry as having Renly's eyes and hair, and later she mistakes Gendry for Renly.

Jon and Ned appear to have been certain that Gendry was Robert's, while the other two examples are hints.

[Megorova]

39 minutes ago, Faera said:

Aside from looking like Robert, no not really.

Aside from that, there's also a fact that Robert had sex with mothers of those children, prior their birth. And Varys knew those women:

"He fathered eight, to the best of my knowing,” Varys said as he wrestled with the saddle. “Their mothers were copper and honey, chestnut and butter, yet the babes were all black as ravens".

Varys, Littlefinger and Jon Arryn didn't just went to some random females, whose babies looked similar to Robert. They went to Robert's lovers, and amongst those of them that had children, asked them when those women were with Robert and how old are their child (the one that looked like Robert). Thus similarities between Robert and those children, are not the only signs that reveal their parentage. It's also the fact that mothers of those children had sex with Robert, 9 months prior they gave birth to those children.

[Dorian Martell's son]

4 hours ago, Stormking902 said:

The title says it all, also im curious to how we the reader learned Gendry is Roberts son besides Ned seeing him in KL and seeing a young Robert in Gendry?. Just because you look like someone doesnt always mean your family. 

He looks a lot like Renly too 

[Faera]

3 hours ago, Megorova said:

Aside from that, there's also a fact that Robert had sex with mothers of those children, prior their birth. And Varys knew those women:

"He fathered eight, to the best of my knowing,” Varys said as he wrestled with the saddle. “Their mothers were copper and honey, chestnut and butter, yet the babes were all black as ravens".

Varys, Littlefinger and Jon Arryn didn't just went to some random females, whose babies looked similar to Robert. They went to Robert's lovers, and amongst those of them that had children, asked them when those women were with Robert and how old are their child (the one that looked like Robert). Thus similarities between Robert and those children, are not the only signs that reveal their parentage. It's also the fact that mothers of those children had sex with Robert, 9 months prior they gave birth to those children.

I'm well aware of that but it still isn't proof. The only way Gendry would ever have been accepted as Robert had acknowledged Gendry. What you have pointed out might convince some people but it will never be proof, unfortunately. Plus, Gendry's mother is dead so she can't back up Varys's claims.

IDK, maybe a copy of Joffrey/Cersei's death list is still floating around?

One thing I will say -- a practical way Varys or Littlefinger could use the bastards. If they could gather all of Robert's known living biological children, Edric, Mya and Gendry (I'm not counting Bella because no one is looking for her), into one room and a likeness could be seen between the three could be seen, that they all resemble Robert and look like siblings, that could truly sure up Gendry's position as he could piggy-back off of Edric's acknowledged position as a great bastard, and Mya's privately accepted position, It wouldn't be proof but it would be something that could all but demonstrated a relation between the three bastards.

[Corvo the Crow]

Of course there is! But why would anyone bother about it? This is not the show that Gendry is somehow important despite spending seasons rowing his boat.

With Robert alive, you can compare the looks of the two and Robert seems to remember the women he spent quality time with, at least the ones in his early life, so when she is mentioned he can say yeah I remember her, he is definitely my boy.

With him dead, looks are the way to go. But there's also DNA tests in planetos despite people saying the contrary. It's pretty simple too all you need is a leech and a fire, with a qualified specialist handling the process.

[Lord Varys]

Nope, there is no way to prove that. Robert is dead, Gendry's mother is dead. His looks are a strong indication that he is of Baratheon descent, but who can say whose son he is. Stannis could be the father, too. Or some distant Baratheon cousin - legitimate or illegitimate - whose seed was also strong.

[Ralphis Baratheon]

More proof that Gendry was Robert's is that he became friends with a Stark without either of them knowing who they were at first. Robert loved the Starks above all else, so his son gravitating to Ned's little girl is that much more proof. Your not truly Robert's until you join the Stark fan club.

[Nevets]

As a literary matter, as far a the reader is concerned, it is a safe bet that Gendry is indeed Robert's son.  George has given us enough details that that is really the only reasonable conclusion.

As far as the case in-story in Westeros, there is no way to prove his parentage, as his parents are both dead, and there are no records.  It is also unlikely that anyone would care enough to actually make an effort to do so. 

[ChuckPunch]

His proof, if there needed to be any, would be the backing of a powerful supporter.

See- Aegon6, Daemon2

[Bullrout]

14 hours ago, Stormking902 said:

The title says it all, also im curious to how we the reader learned Gendry is Roberts son besides Ned seeing him in KL and seeing a young Robert in Gendry?. Just because you look like someone doesnt always mean your family. 

No way to prove it.  None. 

[Bullrout]

2 hours ago, Nevets said:

As a literary matter, as far a the reader is concerned, it is a safe bet that Gendry is indeed Robert's son.  George has given us enough details that that is really the only reasonable conclusion.

As far as the case in-story in Westeros, there is no way to prove his parentage, as his parents are both dead, and there are no records.  It is also unlikely that anyone would care enough to actually make an effort to do so. 

Records can be falsified.  People can lie.  Documents can be destroyed.  Gendry can never prove who his father is. 

[zandru]

5 hours ago, Corvo the Crow said:

Of course there is! But why would anyone bother about it? This is not the show that Gendry is somehow important despite spending seasons rowing his boat.

None of that happened in the books. Zippo. The Bull has never met the Red Woman. Just sayin'...

12 hours ago, Bael's Bastard said:

Arya concurred that Bella did have hair like Robert's, but dismissed her being Robert's by noting that Gendry has the same black hair.

That's a little joke by George RR ... Arya was skeptical that Bella was Robert's get, because she had hair and eyes ... like Gendry. The reader knows that Gendry IS most definitely Robert's.

Also, note that Cersei is trying to have Gendry killed, so she's pretty certain of his parentage. And why kill all of Robert's bastards, in the first place? Because Cersei, better than anyone, knows none of her (emphasis on HER) children are related to the former King in any way, and thus have zero right to the Iron Throne. And even Robert's by-blows have more "legitimacy" than the three spawn of incest that she's produced.

Many people were like that, back in feudal times. Even Catelyn, back in the very first book, has told Ned she wants Jon out of Winterfell, and is mollified to learn he'll take the black, thus never being able to contest with her children for Winterfell or having any children of his own who might claim "Stark"ness at a later date.

[Light a wight tonight]

There's also the fact that Cersei sent Goldlcloaks after Yoren's party to either bring Gendry back to King's Landing or just to kill him. Cersei had a program of killing any of Robert's bastards she found out about and she believed that Gendry was one. Just one more bit if evidence.

[Bowen 747]

Paternity test in those days is highly subjective and wildly unreliable.  The mother's word. 

In other words, it can't be proven.

[desire]

Prove that he is not

[purple-eyes]

Real world probably no because even Robert did not acknowledge him. but in their world, Bran can prove it by checking on the “video” of Robert sleeping with Gendry’s mom and then borth of gendry.