Nittanian Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, MPozd spb said: The old one is considered to be Grazdan mo Ullhor, mentioned by Missandei in Daenerys VI (though I am not sure how that conjecture was made). So we have: Grazdan mo Ullhor (or Grazdan (old)) Grazdan (fat one) Grazdan (tall one) (or Grazdan (spiked beard)) Grazdan, who was not described. As I proposed earlier, the article about him can be named Grazdan (Good Master). Ah, the ASOS Appendix mentions "GRAZDAN MO ULLHOR, an old slave trader, very rich". Do we need an article for the fourth Grazdan if we don't know anything more about him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGuv19 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) On the Castamere page in the quotes section Tyrion: The Crag is not so far from Tarbeck Hall and Castamere. You'd think the Westerlings might have ridden past and seen the lesson there. Tyrion: Mayhaps they have. They are well aware of Castamere, I promise you. —Tyrion Lannister and Tywin Lannister I think the second ‘Tyrion’ speaking is actually Tywin. Edited April 7, 2020 by McGuv19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaerys Velaryon Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, McGuv19 said: I think the second ‘Tyrion’ speaking is actually Tywin. Corrected. Edited April 7, 2020 by Thomaerys Velaryon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Corlys Velaryon Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Correct me if I'm wrong, but there doesn't seem to a page about the ironborn civil war (& eventual Targaryen invasion) following the Burning of Harrenhal. Nor the one after the Red Kraken's death (& subsequent Lannister invasion). It would be helpful to have these created to be able to refer to, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Checking the entry on Raymont Baratheon again - and there is no way this guy (if he even existed) is confirmed to be a son of Orys Baratheon. He could also have been a grandson of Orys Baratheon through a second or third son. All FaB does is to introduce Rogar and his brothers as grandsons of Orys One-Hand. It does not establish those five guys are the only grandsons Orys Baratheon had. He could have had depending on the number of children (sons and daughters) he had. It would make Raymont a rather young Kingsguard if he were Orys' grandson, but if we imagine a second son of Orys' born in 2-3 AC, and this guy in turn having Raymont around 20 AC, then Raymont could easily enough be a Kingsguard knight in his early twenties by the year 41 AC. Just don't jump to conclusions too fast in those footnotes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wondering Wolf Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) @Lord Varys Raymont is described as Lord Baratheon's younger son in the Worldbook. Unless something incredibly convoluted happend regarding the Baratheon lords between 37 and 47 AC (or whenever Rogar was lord for sure), Raymont was supposed to be Orys's son. Anyway, I don't think this guy exists anymore. At least he is not mentioned in any book anymore. Edited August 10, 2020 by The Wondering Wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, The Wondering Wolf said: @Lord Varys Raymont is described as Lord Baratheon's younger son in the Worldbook. Unless something incredibly convoluted happend ragarding the Baratheon lords between 37 and 47 AC (or whenever Rogar was lord for sure), Raymont was supposed to be Orys's son. Anyway, I don't think this guy exists anymore. At least he is not mentioned in any book anymore. Oh, right, did forget that tidbit. I was just stumbling over this footnote there on the Raymont page: Quote The World of Ice & Fire does not specify which Lord Baratheon is Raymont's father. However, Fire & Blood clarifies that Raymont is a son of Orys, as the sons of the Lord Baratheon that succeeded Orys are all named. And we don't know whether Rogar's father succeeded Lord Orys. There could have been multiple Baratheon lords between Orys and Rogar, and Rogar and his brothers could only be the sons of a younger son of Lord Orys with Raymont being the son of an elder son who succeeded Orys. How do you get those wiki accounts, anyway? Somebody has to delete that page or at least flag the guy as having the degree of existence as Schrödiger's cat. And the same goes for all that stuff that's from the novella versions of FaB. We know have the final version, and the stuff that didn't make it in there is about as canonical as discrepancies between the various prints of the main series that have been corrected in later editions or the discrepancies between the main books and the novella versions of Dany's story in 'Blood of the Dragon' and 'Path of the Dragon' or the Ironborn story in 'Arms of the Kraken'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wondering Wolf Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 30 minutes ago, Lord Varys said: And we don't know whether Rogar's father succeeded Lord Orys. There could have been multiple Baratheon lords between Orys and Rogar, and Rogar and his brothers could only be the sons of a younger son of Lord Orys with Raymont being the son of an elder son who succeeded Orys. As I said, not impossible but unnecessarily convoluted. Rogar could have been the son of Davos' younger brother, Davos could have had two sons and so on. Since we can not rule it out entirely, the wiki should not state it as fact, indeed. You can ask Elio for an account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordSeaSnake Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 I added a little note on Raymont's wiki page about his canonical status. I suppose we will have to wait for the final word from Ran about whether or not Raymont is being permanently removed from canon. Even if he is, I think we should leave his wiki article and just make it out-of-universe detailing that the character has been removed, in case someone with an old copy of TWOIAF tries searching for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, LordSeaSnake said: I added a little note on Raymont's wiki page about his canonical status. I suppose we will have to wait for the final word from Ran about whether or not Raymont is being permanently removed from canon. Even if he is, I think we should leave his wiki article and just make it out-of-universe detailing that the character has been removed, in case someone with an old copy of TWOIAF tries searching for him. Of course, I'm not sure if it would make sense to have characters with 'Schrödinger's cat-like status' in the wiki since, at this point, Raymont Baratheon seems the only one of those (although I guess tweaks and changes made to any sample chapters could create similar conundrums), but it definitely should be mentioned. With Raymont not finding his way back in the new edition of FaB I'd say his chances for him to continue to exist are very low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyx Rivers Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 I noticed a very minor error in the War of the Five Kings article. In the info box where the notable commanders are listed, in Renly's section, Guyard Morrigen has been given a Lannister sigil. I don't think, that's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaerys Velaryon Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 14 hours ago, Alyx Rivers said: I noticed a very minor error in the War of the Five Kings article. In the info box where the notable commanders are listed, in Renly's section, Guyard Morrigen has been given a Lannister sigil. I don't think, that's right. Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chista Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 I'm sorry for this silly bit but i think there's this minor flaw i would be thrilled if it was fixed. i was going through the major characters pages and oddly i found whilst they are referred as 'one of the major POV characters in a song of ice and fire' in their wiki page, Arya Stark is simply written as 'a POV character in a song of ice and fire'. that led me to thinking she's not one of the major characters untill i read this: Quote “Some major characters — yes, I always had plans, what Tyrion’s arc was gonna be through this, what Arya’s arc was gonna be through this, what Jon Snow’s arc is gonna be.” - GRRM Here she is mentioned as 'some major characters' by grrm so she is among them. I'd be very happy if someone cared to fix this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaerys Velaryon Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 @Chista Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Pimienta Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Hi, In the introductory paragraph for Janna Fossoway, née Tyrell, she is said to have "an older sister, Janna Tyrell." This should be Mina Tyrell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose of Red Lake Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 House Arryn wiki: Quote Behind the Scenes The Andal blood purity of the Arryns and their name may have been inspired by the Nazi belief in the superior Aryan people. The Arryn falcon may also be a derivative of the Imperial Eagle. What the #@%! is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Rose of Red Lake said: House Arryn wiki: What the #@%! is this? Have to agree that comes from left field, and seems based on pure speculation. @Thomaerys Velaryon' Is there some interview with GRRM that led you to add that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaerys Velaryon Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 No I don't remember what I was thinking at the time. I see @direpupy has already fixed it so I don't have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Andalos page https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Andalos Quote Andalos is located south of Braavos and the Braavosian Coastland, west of the narrow sea, and east of the Hills of Norvos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Corvinus85 said: Andalos page https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Andalos Fixed! Corvinus85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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