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Actually, I have to agree with Garovorkin here. I do want the Democrats to tack towards the center. But then, that'd make them more liberal, considering how they're mostly a center-right party from my Eurocommie perspective. So, I agree with everybody else, too. Yay!

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The Conservative Clownery is going strong.

https://thinkprogress.org/kobach-fraud-charge-1eefa6b469d3/

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In November 2016, Fullmer cast ballots in both states. He figured that because he pays taxes in both places, he was entitled to have his voice heard in local and state races in two states. He only voted for president, Donald Trump, in Kansas.

Now he is facing four felony charges — two counts of voting without being qualified, one count of voting more than once, and one count of “advance voting unlawful acts.” If convicted of all of them, Fullmer faces steep fines and two years probation.

 

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On Thursday, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R) announced he was bringing criminal charges against two people for voting illegally in 2016 — Fullmer and 20-year-old Bailey Ann McCaughey, who is also accused of voting in both Kansas and Colorado. The prosecutions bring the total number of people Kobach has charged with voter fraud to 15. So far, the cases have resulted in nine convictions or plea deals totaling $30,000 in fines, and one dismissal. Many of the prosecuted citizens have, like Fullmer, been confused seniors.

 

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He was also unaware that Kobach is one of the most prominent Republicans in the country when it comes to propagating the myth of widespread voter fraud and feeding President Trump false narratives about illegal voting.

 

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But Kobach’s involvement in spreading the myth of voter fraud will no doubt continue. As he runs for Kansas governor this year, he will be in close contact with the Department of Homeland Security, which Trump says will take over the investigation of illegal voting. Kobach hopes the agency will identify non-citizens on the voter rolls and push for laws that will ultimately make it harder for Democratic-leaning constituencies to vote.

 

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A representative for Kobach’s office did not respond to a request for comment about his latest prosecutions Friday. In April 2017, Kobach told the Kansas City Star that it’s “absurd” for anyone to say that voter fraud is not a widespread problem, even when he has failed to identify anywhere close to the number of illegal voters he says exist.

 

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On 1/7/2018 at 2:42 PM, Nasty LongRider said:

The least bit of liberal is too liberal, and conservatism can only be failed.  What a political landscape this is.

 

23 hours ago, theguyfromtheVale said:

Actually, I have to agree with Garovorkin here. I do want the Democrats to tack towards the center. But then, that'd make them more liberal, considering how they're mostly a center-right party from my Eurocommie perspective. So, I agree with everybody else, too. Yay!

Yeah, its like in the United States if you call yourself a Marxist, people lose their minds.

But, if you call yourself an Objectivist or an Ayn Rand fan, nobody bats an eye. And I’d submit that philosophy is wholly destructive as it would completely erode any type of basic trust in a society. And I think, a case of this, might very well be that clown that destroyed Sears with his Ayn Rand crap. Evidently he manage destroy even the most basic level of trust within that organization, to the point it couldn't function.

Edited by OldGimletEye

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1 hour ago, Dr. Pepper said:

Bannon has issued an apology to Trump and family.  

 

https://www.axios.com/scoop-bannon-sends-regret-to-trump-1515329924-dbfe9439-59e0-4773-8d3d-079e5ee2b493.html

 

this is all Trump needs for Bannon to be back in the loop and then gain more intel to leak

I like this take on Bannon's apology:

 

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3 hours ago, theguyfromtheVale said:

Actually, I have to agree with Garovorkin here. I do want the Democrats to tack towards the center. But then, that'd make them more liberal, considering how they're mostly a center-right party from my Eurocommie perspective. So, I agree with everybody else, too. Yay!

Exactly, good point. The Democrats are already way too far to the right, this is a party that nominated a Right to Work Governor for Hillary's VP. 

 

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The fact that Bannon went ahead and issued this apology is one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen.  Can we please stop pretending that this guy is anything but a once-in-a-lifetime fluke?  

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15 hours ago, GAROVORKIN said:

Really and what happened in 2016? The voters kicked out the democrats. They put in the Republicans , alot of  working class moderate voters whom the Democrats decided rather shortsightedly  to ignore voted against them.  You need to appeal to moderate voters or you don't win. 

Hillary Clinton was about as moderate as you could get.  So isn't this an argument against what you're saying? 

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6 hours ago, ants said:

Hillary Clinton was about as moderate as you could get.  So isn't this an argument against what you're saying? 

Being a moderate didn't cost her the election.

 

Edited by GAROVORKIN

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53 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said:

Good lord.  Could he lick Trump's butt a little harder?

 He's put himself in a rather awkward position and  stands to lose everything he's gained . That's why he's backtracking.

Edited by GAROVORKIN

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37 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said:

Good lord.  Could he lick Trump's butt a little harder?

He likely feels his position is precarious. And he's a hardcore white nationalist near the center of our nation's power structure. The guy would likely fuck a pig on live television if it would keep him in his job. I read that he was in Trump's office near the time of the infamous Britain tweet. That's the kind of bullshit he wants to keep pulling, influencing Trump's tweets, as well as policy.

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1 hour ago, GAROVORKIN said:

Being a moderate didn't cost her the election.

 

It also didn't gain her all those 'centrist' voters you claim the democrats need.

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8 minutes ago, aceluby said:

It also didn't gain her all those 'centrist' voters you claim the democrats need.

I suspect that Trump a fair number of those Centrist voters..

 

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10 minutes ago, GAROVORKIN said:

 

Anyone who voted for Trump is not a centrist, no matter what they may say. You can’t vote for the openly extreme right white nationalist and then claim you chose him for his moderate views. That is not to say that anyone who voted for Trump is a white nationalist, but he never offered any kind of centrist platform. Even the less deplorable Trump voters excuse their choice by saying they thought he was an outsider who would bring change, they didn’t see him as a moderating force.

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Anyone that voted for trump is a bigot and enabler of white supremacy and white nationalism. And any white person that voted for him is a racist. 
they either saw his bigotry and agreed with it, or they couldn't give less of a shit about it because it didn't personally impact them.
 

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35 minutes ago, GAROVORKIN said:

I suspect that Trump a fair number of those Centrist voters..

 

Lol, oh darling, Trump isn't a centrist.  Just because a candidate won the election doesn't mean he did so by picking up moderate voters.  

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