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So, how did Ramsay go from a guy who

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Could charge at “the best Ironborn killers” shirtless and come out unscathed to a bloke who goes down with one punch?

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Plot convenience.

That shirtless cage fight only worked because Yara and her Ironborn just stood there gaping - they could have just stabbed him at any point. The whole time I remember shouting, “Just stab him, Yara! Get him! Get him!”

Jon, though... His baby brother had been murdered, he’d nearly suffocated in the biggest (and stupidest) rugby scrum ever, and Ramsay had just killed his giant buddy Wun Wun out of spite. So, when Jon went for him, he was going for the kill.

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On 16-1-2018 at 4:57 PM, Angel Eyes said:

Could charge at “the best Ironborn killers” shirtless and come out unscathed to a bloke who goes down with one punch?

If you think this shit has any sense, you haven't been paying attention.

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On 1/16/2018 at 8:13 PM, Pink Fat Rast said:

Because he wasn't shirtless that time.

Just like how non-newtonian fluids are more viscous when treated rough and less viscous when treated gently, Ramsay is a non-newtonian villain. When he's displaying complete incompetence, like taking his sweet-ass time opening the dog cages while shirtless, fighting raiders shirtless in the first place, sending a mere twenty men in the hopes that they'll successfully burn Stannis's entire camp's provisions, or killing his father, stepmother, and brother-in-law with no thought as to diplomacy, he encounters the least resistance, but when he's being remarkably competent, baiting an enemy into a foolish charge, surrounding them with pincer movements and prefacing this with hails of arrows to break their lines, he encounters the most resistance.

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On 24.1.2018 at 8:22 PM, Beardy the Wildling said:

Just like how non-newtonian fluids are more viscous when treated rough and less viscous when treated gently, Ramsay is a non-newtonian villain. When he's displaying complete incompetence, like taking his sweet-ass time opening the dog cages while shirtless, fighting raiders shirtless in the first place, sending a mere twenty men in the hopes that they'll successfully burn Stannis's entire camp's provisions,

Tbf the skills of Ser Twenty of House Goodmen are legendary across the continent.

On 24.1.2018 at 8:22 PM, Beardy the Wildling said:

or killing his father, stepmother, and brother-in-law with no thought as to diplomacy, he encounters the least resistance, but when he's being remarkably competent, baiting an enemy into a foolish charge, surrounding them with pincer movements and prefacing this with hails of arrows to break their lines, he encounters the most resistance.

I think it all comes down to none of them noticing the Vale army approaching, which was a bit weird.

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