manchester_babe Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 i know you're thinking he hates Cersei. But he would want the crown. I mean he wanted to be Warden Of The North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foot_Of_The_King Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Because his authority comes from the Crown. He could never expect to rule in the North without the backing of Kings Landing (ie the Lannisters). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus Snow Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Yep, if he called himself King in the North it would be an act of open rebellion against the Iron Throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Mac Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 He needs the Freys to rid the North of Stannis and they are unlikely to still be with him, a thousand miles from their own lands, if they support his bid to be King. Once Stannis is defeated and the other Northern factions subjugated he can make these kind of plans but not until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion92 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 One step at a time. First he needs to solidify his position in the North, get rid of external threats like Stannis and wildlings, subjugate rebellious northern lords, and once he has enough juice and right opportunity (Lannisters and Tyrells distracted by Aegon, Euron and Dany's invasions) he can proclaim himself King in the North. It is all about the timing and resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Mormont Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 He's ambitious, not stupid. His authority comes from the crown, and he has the support of the Lannisters and Freys. If he declared himself King, who would support him then? The whole North would rise up against him because of the Red Wedding and he would have no backing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Commentator Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Why didn't Roose give himself the title of King Of North to himself after he killed rather than Warden? The north belongs to the seven kingdoms. Roose can't be king until the northerners successfully win their independence from the crown. The land can only have one ruler. Besides, maybe we're wrong about Roose. Maybe he just wants to be a good little boy to serve his true ruler in KL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherFromAnotherMother Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Widowmaker 811 said: Maybe he just wants to be a good little boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Why would he even want to be king? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 He needs to defeat Stannis first. Then the crown should engage in a war with other factions, so that he would use the crisis and crown himself. If the Lannister regime is defeated, he might have a hand in it by declaring independence and not aiding the crown. Might be a smart move if he bends to the new King/Queen on the IT again. The new ruler would be content, at the least. Don't see it happening. Too many threats for him at the moment. I think he is meat. "Prince Ramsay" would be the side effect of it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kandrax Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 It would be bad move to do that, because he would be without allies. And why title doesn't mentions Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endymion I Targaryen Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The crown made him Warden of the North and at that moment Twyin was in charge. This means he had no chance to succeed. With Twyin dead, things are easier for him. Plus he has two problems: he has to gain northern houses and he has to crash Stannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Commentator Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It would be a hollow title and rather meaningless. Good for the ego, bad in terms of enjoying a reasonable lifespan. He has no right to give himself titles to lands that do not belong to him. In feudalism, the lands are in the control of the monarch, who grants based on rewarding service. Giving himself this title is going too far. The crown already made him the paramount lord and gave him the title of warden. He cannot go farther without fighting and defeating the monarch to make the north an independent kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Widowmaker 811 said: It would be a hollow title and rather meaningless. Good for the ego, bad in terms of enjoying a reasonable lifespan. He has no right to give himself titles to lands that do not belong to him. In feudalism, the lands are in the control of the monarch, who grants based on rewarding service. Giving himself this title is going too far. The crown already made him the paramount lord and gave him the title of warden. He cannot go farther without fighting and defeating the monarch to make the north an independent kingdom. If he stays there and doesn't move South, and if the Iron Throne is engaged in a war, he hardly would have to fight the IT. He can literally crown himself and sit on his arse. Of course, "if". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darion Storm Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Because being allied to the Iron Throne is the only reason why he is Warden of the North. Name himself king and he’s all alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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