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I watched Bayliss’ post-match interview with Sky yesterday and it was pretty horrendous. When asked if he’d support a split between test and limited overs coaches, his response was along the lines of: “well I’m coach of both formats until the ECB says otherwise. If they do go that way, I look forward to some more gardening.” 

Huh? Trevor, you either want the job or not. If you’d rather be gardening instead of coaching a test team, go and do that!

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Well they’ve gone back to the future with Jennings. I’m not a fan of his technique; I think Abbas and Amir could have a field day with him. Déjà vu for Cook!

I expect Woakes to play at Headingly instead of Wood, which would be a sensible move.

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WTF is up with England producing so many duds? They have one of the better domestic leagues, so wtf? overcoaching? not enough coaching? all good athletes pick other sport *side-eyes Windies*?

Australia is on a similar boat too actually. But the current youngins are showing enough so that it at least feels like they have potential and one day will reach such potential. Or if that doesn't work, just cheat :P

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12 minutes ago, The Winged Shadow said:

They have one of the better domestic leagues, so wtf? overcoaching? not enough coaching? all good athletes pick other sport *side-eyes Windies*?

We kind of don't. First class county cricket is very much being shunted to the margins to make room for limited overs cricket. Add to that, despite lip service being played to test cricket being the pinnacle of the game, it's clear England's priority is having a strong one day team for the World Cup at the moment (that's why Bayliss is still in a job; he's doing what they really hired him for). The player pool is also smaller than it used to be with cricket's lower profile without free to air coverage. It's not a great picture overall.

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I agree with all of that. That said, the shunting of first class cricket to the margins should, theoretically, at least be helping us find players with good techniques against the moving ball. 

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On 5/28/2018 at 11:00 AM, Paxter said:

Well they’ve gone back to the future with Jennings. I’m not a fan of his technique; I think Abbas and Amir could have a field day with him. Déjà vu for Cook!

It seems a weird selection. I suppose at least he's scored a Test hundred, which is an advantage he has over Mark Stoneman, but it's not saying much about the pool of players that he's the best they can come up with.

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1 hour ago, williamjm said:

It seems a weird selection. I suppose at least he's scored a Test hundred, which is an advantage he has over Mark Stoneman, but it's not saying much about the pool of players that he's the best they can come up with.

He was so clearly below test match standard last summer, you have to wonder if anything has changed to make him more likely to score runs. Sometimes picking an opening batsman is more about character and technique than domestic form. And they don't even need to be a specialist opener - Justin Langer certainly wasn't when he was picked to replace Slater.

Perhaps Malan wouldn't be the worst opener? 

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Speaking of Australia's new coach, the team is adopting a novel new approach to shaping team culture:

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“Langer, as you’ve heard, wants honesty and humility,” Gilchrist said.

“Actually, I’ve heard him say he wants his players to be good enough blokes that he would consider allowing them to marry his daughters.

 

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21 hours ago, ljkeane said:

We kind of don't. First class county cricket is very much being shunted to the margins to make room for limited overs cricket. Add to that, despite lip service being played to test cricket being the pinnacle of the game, it's clear England's priority is having a strong one day team for the World Cup at the moment (that's why Bayliss is still in a job; he's doing what they really hired him for). The player pool is also smaller than it used to be with cricket's lower profile without free to air coverage. It's not a great picture overall.

Sounds a lot like what is happening in Australia :( 

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The ballot for tickets for next year's World Cup is open now. Anyone planning to apply? I did apply for a couple of the matches which are likely to be extremely popular, the final (because why not?) and the England/Australia match, I suspect the chances are I won't get either of those. Also applied for the Australia/New Zealand match because it might be less in demand and it's usually a good contest between those two.

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There are suggestions Ben Stokes may miss tomorrow's Test with an injury with Sam Curran lined up as the replacement. It took me a while to remember that it wasn't him that played a couple of Tests in the Ashes, hopefully he has more success than his brother did. At least as a left-armer he would offer a bit of a variety, although given that it's batting that's the primary problem I'm not sure a bowling all-rounder is the right addition to the team.

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12 minutes ago, williamjm said:

There are suggestions Ben Stokes may miss tomorrow's Test with an injury with Sam Curran lined up as the replacement. It took me a while to remember that it wasn't him that played a couple of Tests in the Ashes, hopefully he has more success than his brother did. At least as a left-armer he would offer a bit of a variety, although given that it's batting that's the primary problem I'm not sure a bowling all-rounder is the right addition to the team.

Yeah if Stokes is out, that more than evens the contest following Pakistan’s loss of Babar. You’d think Woakes is an absolute certainty now to lengthen the batting lineup. How England miss Moeen!

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I'll be intrigued to see how this one goes. Pakistan's win in the First Test has made this series really interesting and it's great to see such a young side do well. I just hope they can keep it together and be unPakistan-like in playing consistently across a few Tests.

Stoneman finally goes, who knows if Jennings will be any better but they're not really losing anything by swapping Stoneman out. Woakes will be a good addition to the team. Bess's bowling was underwhelming but it will be interesting to see how he goes as a spinner. It's always a bit weird when a new young bowler has a great batting innings but you're still not sure about his primary craft (read: Ashton Agar for the Australian version). I guess you just keep picking him until it goes bad.

Still a little worried that Pakistan's batting order is light on (with Sarfraz at 6 and two all-rounders at 7 and 8) but I guess that isn't really their strength and they just want to give their bowlers every chance to succeed.

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Great swing bowling from Anderson and Broad. Pakistan will have to stick it out and hope they can cash in on the other bowlers - assuming they have batsmen left!

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I think this innings could end rather similarly to the first innings at Lord’s. As Hereward alluded to, this series could be very differently poised if Root had cashed in on his good fortune at the toss in London.

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