Annalee Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 On 2/2/2018 at 7:46 PM, James Fenimore Cooper XXII said: I can write about this subject endlessly and never get tired. Mine took place near the beginning of our story and got me hooked on Dany's story line. Here it is for your enjoyment, the passage from Dany's wedding to Khal Drogo. What a beautiful moment, beautifully and lovingly written by George R. R. Martin. What a lovely character he created in Daenerys Targaryen. I know it's not exactly a "power play" but Dany's confidence with her filly literally gave her wings and this is the start of her blossoming. I was going to look for an example to give the op. Yours is a good one. That was a lovely moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldve Taken The Black Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 On 03/02/2018 at 4:09 PM, Bowen 747 said: I am of the opinion that Daenerys knew what she was doing when the dragons hatched. It was no accident. Are there any quotes from the book to support this? I thought it was pretty clear she expected to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Commentator Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 10 hours ago, Quoth the raven, said: From A Dance with Dragons, p. 694. Queen Daenerys Targaryen saved the lives of Tyrion Lannister and Penny. The dwarfs owed her their very lives. I would like to see Tyrion pledge his life and loyalty to Daenerys and forsake his Lannister family forever. This is not a power play but it is an act of heroism from Dany. You could say it is one of the best examples of compassion. The dwarfs are nothing to Dany, strangers who have nothing to give and yet she risked irritating her new husband to save their lives. Have no doubts anymore about Hizdahr. He's not a good man by any stretch. The slaves in general bring nothing to the table. At least not at the first. It started out with Jorah's plan to find an army and it developed into a humanitarian mission to liberate countless slaves. It was a simple mission that became complex and threatens to derail the restoration of House Targaryen. But why not build a new House in this continent. It's as good a place as any and the weather is much better. On 2/4/2018 at 8:35 AM, Bowen Marsh said: How about surviving the hard life of someone on the run. She traveled the free cities with her king for years and looked for allies before ending up at Illyrio's home. And believing they were pursued by Robert's hit men. I often wonder why it was that Ser Willem Darry never taught Viserys how to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Commentator Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 11 hours ago, Quoth the raven, said: From A Dance with Dragons, p. 694. Queen Daenerys Targaryen saved the lives of Tyrion Lannister and Penny. The dwarfs owed her their very lives. I would like to see Tyrion pledge his life and loyalty to Daenerys and forsake his Lannister family forever. This is not a power play but it is an act of heroism from Dany. You could say it is one of the best examples of compassion. The dwarfs are nothing to Dany, strangers who have nothing to give and yet she risked irritating her new husband to save their lives. Have no doubts anymore about Hizdahr. He's not a good man by any stretch. That's coming from the show. Book Tyrion has his own army of sellswords. I doubt he's interested in serving Dany. Which is fine with me because I don't trust Tyrion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullrout Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I can read the last chapter of "A Game of Thrones" over and over. It's that good. The speech she gave to the khalasar was powerful. Her talent for public speaking doesn't translate on the pages as well as it does on the big screen but it's still a good speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullrout Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 On 2/2/2018 at 7:46 PM, James Fenimore Cooper XXII said: I can write about this subject endlessly and never get tired. Mine took place near the beginning of our story and got me hooked on Dany's story line. Here it is for your enjoyment, the passage from Dany's wedding to Khal Drogo. What a beautiful moment, beautifully and lovingly written by George R. R. Martin. What a lovely character he created in Daenerys Targaryen. I know it's not exactly a "power play" but Dany's confidence with her filly literally gave her wings and this is the start of her blossoming. What a beautiful moment indeed. That was empowering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponzi Scheme Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 What it comes down to in the end is she knows how to play the game of thrones. Her goals are noble and worthy. I would not trust any other person to have three dragons except Dany. She will make a great ruler for Westeros or any other land she would care to rule. Westeros will be like eating cake when she gets done with the bay. I pray we get a chance to see Dany take her father's throne. I know none of us knows how the story will end but I do pray for Dany to win the game of thrones and take back the seven kingdoms from the Lannisters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lord of the Crossing Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 On 2/4/2018 at 11:10 PM, Son of Man said: Dany knowing doesn't have to involve genetic memory and reincarnation. She's very inquisitive and astute. Asking the right questions, listening well, and combining the learned data can lead to wonderful conclusions. The chain of events is rich with clues and our young lady is very intelligent. First, dragonlore. Dany is sure to have heard many stories of dragons from Viserys. Second, family history. Great-grandfather tried to hatch dragons with fire. It ended badly. Third, Doreah. The story of the moon and the dragons. Fourth, Dany had already made two attempts to hatch the eggs. Firth, MMD. The Maegi told her 'only death can pay for life.' 1-2) is self explanatory. Dany has the background knowledge. At least she has enough to build a theory on. 3) Dany is not superstitious. I don't think she accepted Doreah's story for fact. She was able to reason out what happened. The moon got too close to the son. I agree with the below post on the eclipse. The moon cracked and dragons poured forth. Dany must have concluded that the story got twisted over the tellings. Something got lost in the tellings. The moon didn't crack. Dragon eggs on the ground cracked during the eclipse and out came dragons. 4) She tried hatching her eggs and failed. 5) Mirri tells her only death can pay for life. Now Dany understood why the eggs failed to hatch. Not enough heat and three must be sacrificed. It just so happens Drogo and Rhaego are dead. Mirri makes three. It's this paragraph that had me thinking ancient memory stored in the genes. Instinct. "She told herself that there were powers stronger than hatred, and spells older and truer than any the maegi had learned in Asshai. The night was black and moonless, but overhead a million stars burned bright. She took that for an omen." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 19 hours ago, Widowmaker 811 said: That's coming from the show. Book Tyrion has his own army of sellswords. I doubt he's interested in serving Dany. Which is fine with me because I don't trust Tyrion. Tyrion has nothing to offer Dany at the point in time when she rescues him and Penny, is the point I think was being made. And even if he did, she has no way of knowing that. It’s an act motivated entirely by empathy and compassion. I don’t think Tyrion even realises it was Dany’s intervention that saved him, though I imagine when they do meet it might crop up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Commentator Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said: Tyrion has nothing to offer Dany at the point in time when she rescues him and Penny, is the point I think was being made. And even if he did, she has no way of knowing that. It’s an act motivated entirely by empathy and compassion. I don’t think Tyrion even realises it was Dany’s intervention that saved him, though I imagine when they do meet it might crop up I suppose if either Irri or Jhiqi were to leave the world of the living Penny can fill in and be the 3rd handmaid. But yes, it was an act of pure empathy and compassion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moiraine Sedai Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 On 2/5/2018 at 10:29 AM, Shouldve Taken The Black said: Are there any quotes from the book to support this? I thought it was pretty clear she expected to die. You mean did she book reservations at the Inn of the Crossroads for next month? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moiraine Sedai Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Widowmaker 811 said: I suppose if either Irri or Jhiqi were to leave the world of the living Penny can fill in and be the 3rd handmaid. But yes, it was an act of pure empathy and compassion. Gilly might end up in Meereen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgana Lannister Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 On 2/4/2018 at 4:36 AM, Tourbillon Mechanism said: Building the masked city watch is a fine idea. The Brazen Beasts. I wouldn't trust them as far as I can throw them. The Green Grace dismisses the idea of the Shavepate as a possible consort for Dany, not high born enough. This in itself is not a bad thing to say in a hierarchical society. It's a stament of fact. Still, it could be my paranoia, this reminds me well too much of LF. Okay, unsure of where I get this from exactly but he was very keen to join Dany pretty much as face value, and he was a minor noble or something prior to her arrival. I think there is bad blood between his kind and the higher up echelons of Meereen such as her current king. I think he is after supplanting them and using Dany to do so, as a high advisor I get the impression that the Shavepate and his cronies are going to try to keep Dany in Mereen at least as long as it takes for them to take control of the place and supplant the likes of her husband, well her husband and the Green Grace, if I am correct, but I very well could be wrong. I guess Tyrion will see through that one. He is likely to turn up with help (Second Sons) for Barristan and co much before she returns and Barristan and Jorah may listen to some of his counsel or they may all brainstorm together... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josette DuPres Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 On 2/2/2018 at 7:46 PM, James Fenimore Cooper XXII said: I can write about this subject endlessly and never get tired. Mine took place near the beginning of our story and got me hooked on Dany's story line. Here it is for your enjoyment, the passage from Dany's wedding to Khal Drogo. She was a young filly, spirited and splendid. Dany knew just enough about horses to know that this was no ordinary animal. There was something about her that took the breath away. She was grey as the winter sea, with a mane like silver smoke. Hesitantly she reached out and stroked the horse's neck, ran her fingers through the silver of her mane. Khal Drogo said something in Dothraki and Magister Illyrio translated. "Silver for the silver of your hair, the khal says." "She's beautiful," Dany murmured. "She is the pride of the khalasar," Illyrio said. "Custom decrees that the khaleesi must ride a mount worthy of her place by the side of the khal." Drogo stepped forward and put his hands on her waist. He lifted her up as easily as if she were a child and set her on the thin Dothraki saddle, so much smaller than the ones she was used to. Dany sat there uncertain for a moment. No one told her about this part. "What should I do?" she asked Illyrio. It was Ser Jorah Mormont who answered. "Take the reins and ride. You need not go far." Nervously Dany gathered the reins in her hands and slid her feet into the short stirrups. She was only a fair rider; she had spent far more time traveling by ship and wagon and palanquin than by horseback. Praying she would not fall off and disgrace herself, she gave the filly the lightest and most timid touch with her knees. And for the first time in hours, she forgot to be afraid. Or perhaps it was for the first time ever. The silver-grey filly moved with a smooth and silken gait, and the crowd parted for her, every eye upon them. Dany found herself moving faster than she had intended, yet somehow it was exciting rather than terrifying. The horse broke into a trot, and she smiled. Dothraki scrambled to clear a path. The slightest pressure with her legs, the lightest touch on the reins, and the filly responded. She sent it into a gallop, and now the Dothraki were hooting and laughing and shouting at her as they jumped out of her way. As she turned to ride back, a firepit loomed ahead, directly in her path. They were hemmed in on either side, with no room to stop. A daring she had never known filled Daenerys then, and she gave the filly her head. The silver horse leapt the flames as if she had wings. When she pulled up before Magister Illyrio, she said, "Tell Khal Drogo that he has given me the wind." The fat Pentoshi stroked his yellow beard as he repeated her words in Dothraki, and Dany saw her new husband smile for the first time. What a beautiful moment, beautifully and lovingly written by George R. R. Martin. What a lovely character he created in Daenerys Targaryen. I know it's not exactly a "power play" but Dany's confidence with her filly literally gave her wings and this is the start of her blossoming. Very touching moment. I love it. On 2/3/2018 at 9:28 AM, Sigella said: This for me as well. A truly vertigo-inducing gamble. The best part of Book 3. The real storm of swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josette DuPres Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 6 hours ago, Moiraine Sedai said: Gilly might end up in Meereen. Gilly as a Handmaiden! Gilly's free folk ways is not proper for a Hand Maiden. Her idea of personal hygiene will not meet the standards of the East and most certainly not the standards of Meereen's nobility. Gilly is a poor fit for this role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josette DuPres Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 On 2/5/2018 at 0:08 AM, Quoth the raven, said: From A Dance with Dragons, p. 694. Queen Daenerys Targaryen saved the lives of Tyrion Lannister and Penny. The dwarfs owed her their very lives. I would like to see Tyrion pledge his life and loyalty to Daenerys and forsake his Lannister family forever. This is not a power play but it is an act of heroism from Dany. You could say it is one of the best examples of compassion. The dwarfs are nothing to Dany, strangers who have nothing to give and yet she risked irritating her new husband to save their lives. Have no doubts anymore about Hizdahr. He's not a good man by any stretch. Hizdahr and the Meereenese have sick sense of humor. Setting a pride of peckish lions loose on two innocent dwarfs is evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only 89 selfies today Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Attacking Mereen through the sewer system. That saved them from a long battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moiraine Sedai Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 17 hours ago, Only 89 selfies today said: Attacking Mereen through the sewer system. That saved them from a long battle. Risking the few to reduce the casualties to the many is what capable leaders do. That was a good call. Time to roast a plumm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Commentator Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 On 2/6/2018 at 11:39 AM, Moiraine Sedai said: Gilly might end up in Meereen. With Marwyn. I hope. That will force Samwell to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 23 hours ago, Only 89 selfies today said: Attacking Mereen through the sewer system. That saved them from a long battle. That was plumm's plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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