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On 11/30/2018 at 12:40 PM, Annara Snow said:

In this thread, we're supposed to be ranking all the 2018 shows we've seen, not just naming the best ones.

Yeah, sorry. It wasn't an indictment of others if that's how it was interpreted. Those were the best ones for me.

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  1. The Americans (S6)
  2. BoJack Horseman (S5)
  3. Sharp Objects
  4. The Good Place (S2/S3)
  5. The Alienist 
  6. The Expanse (S3)
  7. Dietland
  8. The 100 (S5)
  9. Jessica Jones (S2)
  10. Black Lightning (S1)
  11. Agents of SHIELD (S5)
  12. Cloak and Dagger (S1)
  13. The Gifted (S1)
  14. Runaways (S1)
  15. Deception
  16.  Star Trek: Discovery (S1)
  17.  The X-Files (S11)

How does BoJack Horseman manage to be better and better with each season? People say that about a lot of shows, but in this case, it's true. I didn't think it could top season 4, which was the best season of any show in 2017, but season 5 is even better. Although season 4 had a few more brilliant individual episodes, season 5 was more consistent and had a really strong overall narrative. And was amazingly meta and criticizing itself, while also poking fun and satirizing so many things in its hilarious and witty way, as it always does.

I reshuffled the list slightly and put The 100 over Jessica Jones. Both season 2 of JJ and season 5 of The 100 have been criticized a lot, but I liked them both. In the end, I think I prefer The 100 season 5 because its highs were higher, though its lows were lower. Meanwhile, The Good Place continues to be amazing, and stays where it was with its first part of season 3 (the next episode is in 2019). Not all the episodes were as good, but it had a really strong mid-season finale.

 I'd say places 1-5 were all brilliant, 6-9 I really enjoyed though they had their issues, 10 (Black Lightning) was OK, and 11-17 were all various levels of disappointment. (Except for Deception, which was better than I expected, but I didn't expect it to be anything but an ABC procedural.)

Note that the ranking of Black Lightning and The Gifted is based on their respective first seasons, since I haven't had the time to catch up on their seasons 2 yet.

Edited by Annara Snow

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Here's an update from my last list a few months back. I put write-ups in red for the new shows I've added. I will also probably watch Marvelous Mrs. Maisel S2, Legion S2, and maybe Good Place S3 & South Park S22 before 2018 is over. (Those last two may not finish their seasons until 2019???)  I can see all four of those shows fighting for spots in my top 20, so I may have to update this list one last time.

  1. Ozark – S2
  2. Star Trek Discovery – S1: It’s probably not what most “purists” would want, but I think it’s an entertaining melding of the JJ Abrams/Kelvin Timeline style Trek of the new films and the TV Trek of old. Each episode is just so damn jam packed and I really like the four new main Starfleet characters. Sure, the occasional F-bomb is a bit off-putting for a Trek TV show, and I’m not a huge fan of the Klingons new (old?) look, but those are minor complaints. I just hope they manage to pull off Spock in S2 as well as the recent films have.
  3. Altered Carbon – S1
  4. Dare Devil – S3: It’d be higher on the list if the finale had gone slightly differently and if the direction was a bit more on point. Performances were spectacular this season though. Really disappointing it’s the final season, but at least it got a more concrete finale than Luke Cage & Iron Fist.
  5. New Girl – S7
  6. End of the F*cking World - S1
  7. The Good Place – S2
  8. The Orville – S1
  9. The Terror - S1
  10. Mindhunter – S1
  11. The Crown – S2
  12. Star Wars Rebels – S4
  13. Agents of SHIELD – S5
  14. Handmaid’s Tale – S2
  15. Cloak & Dagger – S1
  16. American Vandal – S2
  17. The Toys That Made Us – S2
  18. GLOW – S2
  19. Barry S1
  20. West World - S2
  21. Jack Ryan – S1: A solid politically based action/suspense series that’s well acted and beautifully paced. The ending felt a bit abrupt, but I can’t go into much more lest I get into spoiler territory. A completely binge-worthy and satisfying series. I hope Krasinski and co. get another few seasons of this.
  22. Orange Is The New Black – S6
  23. Trial & Error S1 & S2
  24. Atlanta – S2: It a clever season with some funny, wacky episodes, and strong cast. I feel like it has an overall uneven balance to it though—sometimes it seems like it’s trying too hard and others not hard enough.
  25. Making It – S1:  Amy Pohler & Nick Offerman host a competition show which is basically The Great British Baking Show but for crafts. I’ve zero interest in making crafts, but this is just a pleasant damn 42 minutes of TV where creative, funny people make stuff—and then the awkward elimination. Bring on more than six episodes for S2!
  26. Lost in Space (2018) – S1
  27. Love – S3
  28. Letterkenny S1 & S2
  29. Better Call Saul – S4: I still feel like there’s way too much filler in this series and that the writing is pretty overrated. Lalo is a good adversary for Gus, but he came in too late. The last two episodes were great and heartbreaking with Jimmy & Kim, but again, it felt like that should’ve been earlier in the season. The flashforward to BB times was one of the best scenes of the season. It looks like we’ll finally get Breaking Bad Saul next season, and my guess is like BB, S5 will be BCS’s last.
  30. Fear The Walking Dead – S4: This is maybe the strongest season yet (S3 was also damn good), and I really wanted to put it higher on the list. However, while it did a fantastic job of bringing Morgan from TWD into the series and introduced some really great new characters, I think it could’ve done a slightly better in its handling of the older characters.
  31. The Tick (2017) – S1
  32. Jessica Jones – S2
  33. Last Man On Earth – S4
  34. Archer – S9: Danger Island: Honestly it was kind of mediocre, especially compared to last season’s Dreamland, but overall it was fun seeing these characters in another “alternate reality” season. And that finale had an amazing cliffhanger to lead into S10.
  35. Brooklyn Nine-Nine – S5
  36. Crashing – S2
  37. Everything Sucks! – S1
  38. Luke Cage – S2
  39. Peaky Blinders – S4
  40. Fear The Walking Dead – S3
  41. Evil Genius (Netflix docu-series)
  42. Mr. Robot – S3
  43. Norsemen – S1: It’s already on S3, but I just discovered it on Netflix. If you’re a fan of Vikings in any way, you’ll probably get a kick out of this show that’s a comedic satire of (yet just as brutally violent as) the History Channel series.
  44. David Letterman, My Next Guest Needs No Introduction – S1
  45. Comedians In Cars Getting Coffee (2018)
  46. SNL 43: Saturday Night Live is an institution, and when they’re good they’re really good. However, I think they ride their left leaning political tendencies too hard. The Weekend Update segment and cold open are traditionally political in nature, but that mentality has seeped into most sketches as well. There’s plenty of social commentary and satire ripe on the left and extreme left that never gets picked up on the show. I also never watch this show live anymore; usually I catch it on Hulu or clips on YouTube.
  47. Hot Ones (Youtube) – S6 & S7
  48. The Four S1 & S2: Don’t judge! It’s a guilty pleasure I sometimes watch when jogging on the treadmill. So the exercise counteracts the terrible shallowness of a singing competition with DJ Khalid (Bless up!), Diddy (Eat!), Megan Trainor, and Fergie, right? Right? :/
  49. Succession – S1
  50. Portlandia – S8
  51. The Walking Dead – S8
  52. Silicon Valley – S5
  53. Arrested Development – S5
  54. AP Bio – S1
  55. Mystery of Oak Island: I watched various episodes of this reality treasure hunting show on Hulu from a collection of seasons. Interesting premise but there’s A LOT of filler here. Basically watch the last one or two episodes per season and you’re done.
  56. Marching Orders – S1

 Other shows:

 * Top of the Lake – S1 & S2: I didn’t put it on my main list becaue S1 aired way back in 2013, but I caught up with it on Hulu this year. I wanted to like this a lot more than I could. The plot was infuriatingly clunky and self serving, and the two big “twists” in the last two episodes were telegraphed a mile away. Solid cast and performances though. Season two has the same problems as S1, but the addition of Gwen Cchristie’s upbeat officer to the cast was a bright star in each episode.

 *Black Mirror – S4: It’s a TV series only technically. So it feels kind of unfair ranking it with the others. Hits and misses, but the hits were homeruns—USS Callister, Hang the DJ, & Black Museum. 

*11.22.63 – I didn’t put this on my main list since it’s really a miniseries, and it’s a few years old. But I’m glad I finally got around to watching this Hulu original. As a long time Stephen King fan I’m kicking myself for not having read the book before seeing series since it so wonderfully captures the tone of what is best about King’s work—fantasy, mixed with suspense, led by complex characters, all wrapped in a dark but ultimately hopeful morality tale.

*Fresh Off The Boat – S2-4: I really liked S1, but drifted away from the series back in S2 a few years back. This year I started catching up with it on Hulu, and started jumping around a bit between seasons. It’s a great throwback to the sitcom formula, but takes on enough continuity with the characters to not feel dated even though it’s set in the 90s. My only complaints are that the show can get a a tiny bit preachy sometimes, and the kid actors can be very hit or miss in terms of performance—except for the kid who plays the youngest son, Evan,; Evan is always on point.

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I didnt watch much new tv this year . 

1) The Last Kingdom s3

2) Gommorah s3

3) The Americans final season 

(decent sized gap)

4) Westworld s2

lost interest in Better Call Saul s4 a few episodes in. I’m sure I’ll binge it when it hits Netflix before season 5 comes out. 

Norseman s2 was hilarious but a slight stepdown from s1 imo. 

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26 minutes ago, Mark Antony said:

I didnt watch much new tv this year . 

1) The Last Kingdom s3

2) Gommorah s3

3) The Americans final season 

(decent sized gap)

4) Westworld s2

lost interest in Better Call Saul s4 a few episodes in. I’m sure I’ll binge it when it hits Netflix before season 5 comes out. 

Norseman s2 was hilarious but a slight stepdown from s1 imo. 

Did you not watch Sunny? 

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53 minutes ago, Nictarion said:

Did you not watch Sunny? 

Nahh I didn’t. I’ll wait for it to get on Hulu. I’ve heard very mixed things about the latest season but I’ll still check it out 

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13 hours ago, Annara Snow said:

How does BoJack Horseman manage to be better and better with each season? People say that about a lot of shows, but in this case, it's true. I didn't think it could top season 4, which was the best season of any show in 2017, but season 5 is even better. Although season 4 had a few more brilliant individual episodes, season 5 was more consistent and had a really strong overall narrative. And was amazingly meta and criticizing itself, while also poking fun and satirizing so many things in its hilarious and witty way, as it always does.

Completely agree. I found S5 harder to love than S4 (less of that beautiful bittersweetness that had in tears several times) but its overall thematic arc is even stronger. Knowing where it goes, I found a second viewing incredibly rewarding, elevating it yet again.

Very much top for me.

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1 hour ago, Mark Antony said:

Nahh I didn’t. I’ll wait for it to get on Hulu. I’ve heard very mixed things about the latest season but I’ll still check it out 

I feel like it was the same as most of the last five or so seasons.  Three or four really good/great episodes, a few that suck, and a couple that are solid but not amazing.

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22 hours ago, Heartofice said:

Finding out from this list that Fear the Walking Dead is on Season 4 is has just blown my mind. 

Yup, and it's actually good. I was done with the show after barely being able to force myself to finish S2, but a good friend was on me for months to give S3 a try, so I finally budged this summer and ending up binge watching it. Likewise for S4. 

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Time for some updates. The year is almost done. I don't think I have any other shows to rank, except Outlander, which I will wait until the end of the year. This season's scheduling is so that it will extend into January.

Adding Travelers and Nightflyers. Travelers had another brilliant season, while Nightflyers was so-so. I wasn't impressed, and in light of SyFy cutting The Expanse, I can only say that once again, they've downgraded on show quality.

I've decided to separate the CW superhero shows. I've kept them lumped together after their spring runs, but this fall Supergirl had a much stronger story, while Arrow at least deserves to be above the turd that is Britannia. I've quit watching The Flash and LoT, so they're at the bottom.

  1. Daredevil
  2. The Expanse
  3. The Last Kingdom
  4. Travelers
  5. Westworld
  6. Altered Carbon
  7. Lost in Space
  8. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
  9. Cobra Kai
  10. Luke Cage
  11. Iron Fist
  12. Jessica Jones
  13. The Man in the High Castle
  14. Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan
  15. Bodyguard
  16. Legion
  17. The Terror
  18. Homeland
  19. The First
  20. Star Wars Rebels
  21. iZombie
  22. Star Trek Discovery
  23. Nightflyers
  24. Krypton
  25. Troy: Fall of a City
  26. The Walking Dead
  27. The Gifted
  28. Supergirl
  29. Black Lightning
  30. Designated Survivor
  31. Arrow
  32. Britannia
  33. The Flash
  34. Legends of Tomorrow
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Ok... here it goes....Not putting Sense8 on there because it was really a movie... but I loved it...

1- The Deuce

2- Counterpart

3 - The Expanse

4- Start Up

5- The Last Kingdom

6- Better Call Saul

7- The Handmaid's Tale

8- WestWorld

9- Daredevil

10- The Chi

... Next 10 --still excellent--in no particular order... Man in the High Castle... Ozark,...The Americans... Outlander... Travelers...Mr. Mercedes.... Altered Carbon... Snowfall.... The Alienist

.... Next 10.... ---really good-- no order.... The Sinner.... Killing Eve... Iron Fist... Jack Ryan.. Luke Cage.... Bosch.... Brintania... Sneaky Pete.... Goliath.... the Terror

Honorable mention... Berlin Station... Jessica Jones... Preacher...Outcast.... Billions... Rellik... McMafia... Assassination of Versace.... the Last Ship... Humans... Sharp Objects... Lost in Space.... Trust

Slightly less honorable mention.... Harlots... CB Strike... Escape at Dannemora.... Nightflyers.... Frontier.... Waco.... the Son.... Yellowstone... Safe... Colony.... Animal Kingdom... 12 Monkeys... Patrick Melrose...

Meh.... I watch while I'm surfing the web because these shows have gone downhill.... Walking Dead(s).... Ray Donovan.... Vikings.... 

Total Disappointments.... Homeland... Shoot the Messenger.... the Little Drummer Girl.... The Purge.... Mosaic... Bellvue....Biggie & Tupac... Hard Sun.... the Oath.... Queen of the South... House of Cards... Troy.... Frankenstein Chronicles... Absentia

Shows I loved this year that are just a shit-ton of fun, but I don;t know how to rank against my top 10...

1-The Magicians ... Christ this show is a pisser... Margo is among the best characters on TV

2- Strike Back ,,,, Explosions, T, and A

3- Ash v Evil Dead...  I imagine this show is what its like to be on acid all the time...

4- Snatch.... Dougray Scott and Ron Weasley... another fun AF show

5- A Series of Unfortunate Events.... New Years day, this is my binge.

6- Killjoys... I never really know whats going on... but I still dig it...

7- The Santa Clarita Diet... Drew Barrymore is fucking hilarious

8- Happy... Just in case you ever wondered what it would be like to trip balls

9- End of the Fucking World... seriously... WTF

10- Mr. Inbetween... I think this was a dark comedy... I'm not sure... 

11- Succession... Based on the Murdock family... Brian Cox riffing...

12- Sabrina... Lucy Davis is wonderful

13- Krypton... not a great show... but a great idea for a show

14- Carter... just some dumb fun on a slow TV week

15- Lodge 49... some major league weirdness

.... and shows cancelled too soon.... Damnation.... Hap & Leonard.... Falling Water.... the Path

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1. The Expanse: The best season of the show yet. It's even more impressive given that they were adapting a (IMO) pretty weak book in the second half of the season. This is the best space sci-fi on TV since the early seasons of BSG,

2. Better Call Saul: Like all seasons of Better Call Saul since Season 1, this show suffers from its fragmented plotlines, which are inconsistent in quality. Everything with Jimmy and Kim is gold. Mike had a pretty interesting plotline this season. Nacho was wasted, and Gus just bores me at this point; he seems to only be there to provide Breaking Bad easter eggs. But when the show is good, it's incredible. I just really hope that Season 5 can actually make this into a single show, not four separate ones that barely feel connected.

3. The Good Place: A fantastic and innovative second season let down only by a kind of weak last few episodes, as the show became slightly too schmaltzy. The first half of season 3 has had some excellent episodes but also some of the show's worst.

4.. Westworld: Season 2 had some phenomenal moments and episodes that topped anything in season 1 (especially episodes four and eight), but as a whole it feels less than the sum of its parts. Too many pointless journeys without much payoff, too little development of secondary characters, too much trying to set up uninteresting mysteries instead of telling an interesting story. Still, the acting and cinematography are amazing, and when it's good, it's really good.

5. Daredevil: Season 3 is definitely the best Marvel Netflix season since Seasons 1 of Daredevil and Jessica Jones; a very nice return to form, with some great new characters, especially Nadeem, Sister Maggie, and Dex, who was a terrifying villain. That said, Kingpin, who was a phenomenal villain in season 1, really dragged this down for me; the actor is good, but was only rarely given good material to work with. And the writing for his plots and how he constantly manages to outsmart everyone is just ridiculous and very often dumb (the same goes for Foggy and anything involving the legal system in this show).   

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6. Jessica Jones: A good, if flawed, second season

7. Arrested Development: The first half of season 5 was pretty uneven. It's great to have the cast interacting again, and there are some hilarious episodes and gags, but especially in the early episodes, the pacing is pretty bad. In general episodes are too long, and there's still too much exposition. But the good moments make up for the bad. I have no idea if the mythical second half is ever coming.

8. House of Cards: It was deeply average. But that's better than the past few seasons.

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9. Star Trek: Discovery: The second half of the season was a huge disappointment for me, particularly the parallel universe shenanigans. This isn't coming from a Star Trek  purist; this is the first time I've ever watched a full Star Trek season of anything. I just felt there was lots of wasted potential here.

10. Troy: Fall of a City. Wow, this was uninspired. How anyone can take the Iliad and the Trojan War myths and make them this boring and prosaic is beyond me. 

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1. Gomorrah S3

2. Sharp Objects

3. The Haunting of Hill House- Forgot to put this on my first list.

4. Westworld S2

5. Maniac

6. Narcos: Mexico- The first half was great but it started to falter down the stretch. It also didn’t help that I watched S3 of Narcos AFTER this and it was head and shoulders above it.

7. Better Call Saul

8. Castle Rock- I haven’t watched the finale yet(which I’ve heard is very disappointing). It started out decent enough but lost steam as episodes went on. That seems to be the theme this year for many of the shows on my list.

9. AHS: Apocalypse 

I also watched Big Mouth S2 and loved it, but never know where to put comedies. I’m also gonna watch Killing Eve since it’s on Hulu now.

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1 hour ago, Martini Sigil said:

We both work from home.... no commute..... lol

But we actually go out and party a lot, too.... :)

Yeah, I also work from home and it does wonders for my TV consumption.  Pretty much always have something on in the background unless I'm on a conference call.

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11 hours ago, briantw said:

Yeah, I also work from home and it does wonders for my TV consumption.  Pretty much always have something on in the background unless I'm on a conference call.

How do you actually 'watch' these shows though? If something is on in the background, then for me I don't think I have really watched it. I'm so easily distracted and catching 5 mins here or there doesn't really mean I've watched something.

There are some shows where you can get away with that, but with these binge watch Netflix series, it requires a level of concentration and focus that its not something you can just half watch.

I tend to do all my tv show watching whilst I am commuting, thats the one place I can actually turn off all other distractions.

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11 hours ago, Heartofice said:

How do you actually 'watch' these shows though? If something is on in the background, then for me I don't think I have really watched it. I'm so easily distracted and catching 5 mins here or there doesn't really mean I've watched something.

There are some shows where you can get away with that, but with these binge watch Netflix series, it requires a level of concentration and focus that its not something you can just half watch.

I tend to do all my tv show watching whilst I am commuting, thats the one place I can actually turn off all other distractions.

It depends on the show.  I can usually pay enough attention to most shows to catch what I need to follow them.

Certain shows I can't watch while I'm working, though, like anything with subtitles (can't read them properly when you're constantly glancing at another screen) or more complex shows.  Like, I just started watching Counterpart and quickly learned that, if I don't pay attention, I'm going to get lost.  Simpler shows work, though, like most comedies, or any show without subtitles that I am re-watching.  

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