Hoffa Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Is there a possibility 6 kingdoms can take the north Practically i cant see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoffa Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Eddard said, the combined kingdom could would be hard though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The South Forgets Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Siege and capture White Harbor, establish a blockade on the kingsroad, and wait for the army at Moat Cailin to starve to death. Oh, and write to the Northern Lords offering Lord Paramountcy for betraying the Starks.( I am not suggesting anything like the RW ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Broke Howard Hughes Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 A large enough army, well trained and strategically placed, could definitely take the North. Holding it however is another matter. Roose is learning the hard way that just because someone says you're in charge doesn't mean you actually are. A Southern army can take the North but a Southern Lord can't hold it. Anyone trying to take it would need the help of a Northern house to hold it but any Northern Lord who helps would lose the respect of the North making it almost impossible for them to rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Vance II Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Take as in conquer and indefinitely occupy? No. Space is a weapon, and its just too big. Take as in burn/sack the castles and kill the ruling houses? Sure. It would be super expensive, super time consuming and almost surely not worth it, but sure. Supplying a large southern army in the North would be a logistical nightmare, especially if winter set in or White Harbor could hold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldve Taken The Black Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 The best method seems to be Tywin's, which was to secure the support of powerful Northern lords and let the Northerners fight it out amongst themselves, although we're seeing the limitations of that approach already. In terms of an invasion, we've seen that the North is vulnerable to an attack by sea, due to their lack of a fleet since Brandon the Burner. If you had the support of the Iron Born, the Redwynes, or managed to assemble some other large fleet, then Moat Calin's strength is pretty worthless (as Balon showed). In terms of holding it, others have shown the problems there. Without the consent or support of at least some of the lords in the North I really don't see the South managing this. The idea of knights of the Reach or the Westerlands being able to take and hold places like Last Hearth or Karhold, particularly through winter, seems patently difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Broke Howard Hughes Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Shouldve Taken The Black said: The best method seems to be Tywin's, which was to secure the support of powerful Northern lords and let the Northerners fight it out amongst themselves, although we're seeing the limitations of that approach already. In terms of an invasion, we've seen that the North is vulnerable to an attack by sea, due to their lack of a fleet since Brandon the Burner. If you had the support of the Iron Born, the Redwynes, or managed to assemble some other large fleet, then Moat Calin's strength is pretty worthless (as Balon showed). In terms of holding it, others have shown the problems there. Without the consent or support of at least some of the lords in the North I really don't see the South managing this. The idea of knights of the Reach or the Westerlands being able to take and hold places like Last Hearth or Karhold, particularly through winter, seems patently difficult. Yeah, invading and fighting would be the easy part strangely enough. Trying to usurp the rule of Lords most people LIKE and not just respect and fear would be difficult. Surviving a Northern winter without generations of wisdom handed down through the years to help you would be almost impossible. If your plan is to simply destabilize the place great, kill everyone important then go home. If you're trying to implant someone loyal to YOU, that' going to be a lot harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell's son Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Hoffa said: Is there a possibility 6 kingdoms can take the north Practically i cant see it happening. There isn't. The IB tried, and aside from a trick that got Moat Cailin, they raided and reaved, but could not hold a single place for long. Also, almost all men of fighting age were south of the neck and the north was politically in disarray after the Ned was killed. After the red wedding, there was no leadership at all. Like Russia, the north has the ultimate weapon, and all they have to do is wait for it to run its course and when it is over, they can pick through the corpses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldve Taken The Black Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 7 hours ago, The Broke Howard Hughes said: Yeah, invading and fighting would be the easy part strangely enough. Trying to usurp the rule of Lords most people LIKE and not just respect and fear would be difficult. Surviving a Northern winter without generations of wisdom handed down through the years to help you would be almost impossible. If your plan is to simply destabilize the place great, kill everyone important then go home. If you're trying to implant someone loyal to YOU, that' going to be a lot harder. Which both Balon and Stannis found out, absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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