asongofheresy Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Hello everyone, is anyone up for a crackpot House Dayne discussion for TWOW that doesn't include parentage theories ? (Since this is a book discussion and Aegon is Young Griff not Jon, I would love to state it before I begin. ) During ASOIAF House Dayne is made of three known members, Lord Edric “Ned” Dayne - lord of Starfall, his aunt Lady Allyria Dayne, and Ser Gerold Dayne of High Hermitage. I will try to talk about all three of their reasons for supporting Aegon. The first reason they will support Aegon is sentimental. Ned Dayne is twelve and Allyria is sixteen or seventeen so they will tend to make decisions based on their emotions more. Their uncle/brother Ser Arthur Dayne the Sword of the Morning was a member of KG and a friend to Prince Rhaegar while their aunt/sister Ashara Dayne was Lady in waiting to Elia Martell. Hearing Aegon is alive they may want to support him because that’s what Arthur and Ashara will do. But is that all? No there are opportunities that will come with supporting Aegon - my friends let’s all put our tinfoil hats on. As a start we have to go to Queenmaker chapter and the aftermath of it. When Myrcella was wounded by one of the Arianne’s group. No one saw who attacked Myrcella not even Arianne herself and Doran also says how no one saw what happened too but he scapegoated Gerold Dayne and forced him to flee. Let me say I do not think it was Dayne who wounded Myrcella because it seems she was attacked with a knife and from close distant. So who is our culprit? Drey. He was exiled to Norvos to serve Mellario for three years that’s not a punishment even poor Sylvia was married of the Estermonts. Garin is a good candidate too but it was Drey that Myrcella seem to not to trust - these two are also likely moles in Arianne’s group. Wrongly framed with harming Myrcella of course Gerold Dayne will not trust his liege lord anymore. There is already bad blood between House Dayne and House Martell. Before Nymeria came to Dorne Martells were a nothing house and Daynes were kings of the Torentine. Gerold Dayne already disses Garin the Great for his failure against Valyria and maybe even questions the sanity of Nymeria like I do, because who seeks refuge in Sothoryos. And the last Dayne king - Vorian Dayne were exiled to the Wall. If Daynes want to rise against Martells in a rebellion now it's the time because Dorne seem to suffer from a drought that doesn't get any better + Doran is weak, Oberyn is dead, Quentyn is dead, Arianne might die. There must be a reason why Dayne's avoided Martells after Elia's death. Ashara was a lady in waiting to Dornish princess but Allyria is nowhere near Arianne and doesn't listed as a friend of hers. She is bethored to a marching Lord not a Dornish one and certainly not to Quentyn. Even Edric Dayne himself is a squire for Beric and not Oberyn. Or a friend to young Trystane. What can we expect from TWOW when it comes to Darkstar? For him to win against Obara and Areo, and for him to tell Balon Swann the identity of the true culprit. Then when they learn of GC and Aegon's arrival to Stormlands, Darkstar may go to Aegon to support him too. So can Gerold Dayne be a KG for Aegon? I am not saying he will stole Dawn or something, there is an office of Sword of the Morning so maybe Dawn is protected by them and they chose who will yield it, am office also may have it's own oaths so I don't think Gerold Dayne will attempt to do something like that. But he could still have a place in KG, a good parallel with Aegon the Conquer because he had a hedge knight in his KG and Joffrey Dayne was a knight during his reign too. So Darkstar will be close to Aegon. Or maybe he will lead the Dornish troops for Aegon? hmm there was a Dayne ancestor that burned down the Citadel and if Aegon doesn't make his way up to Riverlands then he may head towards the Reach. Next point to discuss is being a Queen Consort for Aegon. Yes Jon Connington said Aegon will be single for Daenerys but there is no harm in to mention Allyria Dayne is single after her bethored Beric Dondarrion died. And if people can say Aegon will marry Arianne although it has no pros for Aegon and Arianne has to support Aegon as her blood without any demands there is no harm in to speculate Allyria marrying Aegon. Lady Dyana Dayne was wife of Maekar the Anvil but died before he become king, Lady Clarisse Dayne was seen as a suitable wife for Maegor Targaryen until twenty three years old barren maiden Ceryse Hightower was chosen. These are two near misses for House Dayne and Allyria is their third chance. So who will talk with Aegon about Allyria? Maybe Edric Dayne himself? We know after Beric died he left the BWB, I could see him being accompanied by Thoros of Myr and going to Stormlands to bury Beric Dondarrion after his final death. And Edric and Thoros is the reason I think Aegon might go to Riverlands. Stoneheart is hanging everyone, Tully's are still besieged and Riverlands suffer most from War of the Five Kings. [∆ extra tinfoil ∆ assumes Ned + Ashara = Jon + Allyria ] The first Daenerys married a Martell prince while her brother Daeron the Good married Mariah Martell to unite Dorne with rest of the seven kingdoms. Now it is North that is independent and maybe well will see a marriage between post resurretion Jon Stark and his sister. That sister maybe Sansa too but with her dubious marriage to a Lannister parentage of Jon and Allyria comes in handy to again highlight the fact she can be the Queen of Aegon. Aegon is here and Dayne’s are ready to strike I say. I wonder what kind of strings Allyria pull in her castle too. Because we aren't given any insight to Starfall and if she doesn't have any plans she is either incompenent or so fucking laid back to care what is going on in the realm. We know nothing about her, we don’t even know if she is the lady type or a warrior type or both or how she looks like. She could be out here wrecking havoc and we don’t know what’s her deal. Last reason is Thoros of Myr and faith of the R'hllor. In Essos they support Daenerys who is stuck in Mereen but Aegon is here and Thoros and Melisandre will seek him for sure. Aegon was taught the mysteries of Faith by Septa Lemore who is soiled and we never know what she is teaching to him maybe Aegon will choose fire and blood over seven. So what do you think? Will House Dayne really support Aegon or not? Allyria as Queen? Darkstar as KG? Power shift in Dorne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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