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Samwell Tarly is not the author of A Song of ice and Fire


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Let's get to the point.  Samwell Tarly is not the author of A Song of Ice and Fire.  It would be impossible for someone to chronicle and author these events because they are told from the point of views of many characters.  Samwell will have no way knowing what Eddard Stark was thinking during Ned's time in King's Landing.  He would have no way of knowing what Ned said in his private conversation with Cersei.  

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3 minutes ago, Son of Man said:

Let's get to the point.  Samwell Tarly is not the author of A Song of Ice and Fire.  It would be impossible for someone to chronicle and author these events because they are told from the point of views of many characters.  Samwell will have no way knowing what Eddard Stark was thinking during Ned's time in King's Landing.  He would have no way of knowing what Ned said in his private conversation with Cersei.  

Indeed. The author is George RR Martin. :P

 

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32 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said:

Indeed. The author is George RR Martin. :P

 

Hahahaha!!! I've heard it said by a few people that they think Sam will be the one who writes the history for Long Night 2.0 - but not that he's the one writing the actual stories. That wouldn't be possible since it's told by multiple POVs.

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47 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said:

Indeed. The author is George RR Martin. :P

 

Are you super sure, cuz there’s lots of people on this forum that think they know the story better than George and they love to enlighten us with their fanfic on a weekly basis. 

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56 minutes ago, fire&blood said:

Hahahaha!!! I've heard it said by a few people that they think Sam will be the one who writes the history for Long Night 2.0 - but not that he's the one writing the actual stories. That wouldn't be possible since it's told by multiple POVs.

Yeah, there's no way for the story proper to have been written by a character. That is, unless you believe one of the time travelling theories out there, which I don't. :D

 

42 minutes ago, The Fattest Leech said:

Are you super sure, cuz there’s lots of people on this forum that think they know the story better than George and they love to enlighten us with their fanfic on a weekly basis. 

Ain't that the truth! :lol:

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, The Fattest Leech said:

Are you super sure, cuz there’s lots of people on this forum that think they know the story better than George and they love to enlighten us with their fanfic on a weekly basis. 

:rofl::bowdown: Amen to that!

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2 hours ago, Son of Man said:

Let's get to the point.  Samwell Tarly is not the author of A Song of Ice and Fire.  It would be impossible for someone to chronicle and author these events because they are told from the point of views of many characters.  Samwell will have no way knowing what Eddard Stark was thinking during Ned's time in King's Landing.  He would have no way of knowing what Ned said in his private conversation with Cersei.  

If you did read an entire series thinking it was written from the perspective of an omniscient narrator, only to find out at the end it was written by one of the characters in the story, that would have to call in to question everything that you had read.  How much of it was true?  How much was embellished to make the author look good?  How much was fully fabricated?  Sam has shown himself to be more interested in good storytelling rather than historical accuracy, so I don't really think he would make a good historian.

However, there are some almost-omniscient characters in the series, the weirwood, Bloodraven.

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10 hours ago, The Fattest Leech said:

Are you super sure, cuz there’s lots of people on this forum that think they know the story better than George and they love to enlighten us with their fanfic on a weekly basis. 

Can I use this in my signature? :))

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On ‎3‎/‎26‎/‎2018 at 6:13 PM, Son of Man said:

Let's get to the point.  Samwell Tarly is not the author of A Song of Ice and Fire.  It would be impossible for someone to chronicle and author these events because they are told from the point of views of many characters.  Samwell will have no way knowing what Eddard Stark was thinking during Ned's time in King's Landing.  He would have no way of knowing what Ned said in his private conversation with Cersei.  

That's another contamination from the show.  It's just like the show to write something that doesn't make sense to give Sam importance.  As far as the text, no way Samwell is the author.  He has no way to know because the first-person perspective is very limited.  We don't have a 3rd party, all knowing narrator.

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2 hours ago, Bloodraven's Spider said:

Bran will be telling sam what to watch when the long night is finished. He will dictate what He see’s and feels to sam and he will then write a poetic masterpiece knows as the Song of Ice and Fire or Bloodraven will right because when in doubt- Bloodraven

I'm hoping Bloodraven will take over Bran's body, but not for this purpose.  

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On 3/26/2018 at 3:13 PM, Son of Man said:

Let's get to the point.  Samwell Tarly is not the author of A Song of Ice and Fire.  It would be impossible for someone to chronicle and author these events because they are told from the point of views of many characters.  Samwell will have no way knowing what Eddard Stark was thinking during Ned's time in King's Landing.  He would have no way of knowing what Ned said in his private conversation with Cersei.  

O'reellie? 

On 3/26/2018 at 3:17 PM, kissdbyfire said:

Indeed. The author is George RR Martin. :P

:P

On 3/26/2018 at 4:06 PM, The Fattest Leech said:

Are you super sure, cuz there’s lots of people on this forum that think they know the story better than George and they love to enlighten us with their fanfic on a weekly basis. 

Zing! :rofl:

3 hours ago, Bloodraven's Spider said:

Bran will be telling sam what to watch when the long night is finished. He will dictate what He see’s and feels to sam and he will then write a poetic masterpiece knows as the Song of Ice and Fire or Bloodraven will right because when in doubt- Bloodraven

This is more likely

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14 hours ago, Agent Orange said:

That's another contamination from the show.  It's just like the show to write something that doesn't make sense to give Sam importance.  As far as the text, no way Samwell is the author.  He has no way to know because the first-person perspective is very limited.  We don't have a 3rd party, all knowing narrator.

This. It's show siliness.
And it would be quite strange for the author of a series (even if he somehow knew all the facts - through an omniscient being, perhaps) to only insert himself as a POV starting from the fourth volume. Either tell his own perspective of facts from the start or not at all.

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