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1 minute ago, JordanJH1993 said:

Why do you think they have gone for him over, say, Nagelsmann? Would Kovac have been first choice, or would he have been easier to get to come out of the two?

I read they were looking for a German speaking coach specifically, which would narrow down their search. 

I suppose Kovac has a history of having played for Bayern, although not a prominent player in their history.

 

He's won the CL with them iirc. As you said, the requirement of speaking German narrowed the field down significantly. They (well more like Hoeneß) wasted time hoping for Heynckes to change his mind, which tied their hands. Rummenigge wanted to go after Tuchel early on, Hoeneß wasn't 100% convinced (Tuchel's (lack of) social skills) and hoped to convince his buddy Heynckes to stay, that dragged on for a while. Note Heynckes had made it very clear very early on, that he will be back on his farm with his wife and his beloved dog at the end of the season to enjoy his retirement. Anyway, then Tuchel agreed terms with a foreign club (be it PSG or Arsenal, or whatver). Klopp is under contract and quite happy with life in Liverpool. Nagelsmann is still under contract, and Hoffenheim have made it clear, that he will be there next season overseeing their rebuild. Nagelsmann also said that he has a contract he intends to honour months ago. Löw is under contract with the German FA and has apaprently no intention to take over a club again. That's more or less the big three (Klopp, Löw, Tuchel) ruled out. Hasenhüttl was the only other guy in the running.

Then the choices suddenly began to grow thin. So Kovac checked a few boxes. He speaks German fluently (obviously). He knows the club and its mentality from his time as a player, also from their time together as players he is realtively close with Bayern's Director of Football Salihamidzic and he has some experience (he managed the Croatian national team), and he has done a reasonably good job at Frankfurt).

I am neither a Bayern fan nor an expert for their club, but this was what reportedly happened there. But from the outside this hardly looks like the first choice manager for Bayern.

The speaking German language requirement might look kinda ridiculous from the outside, but German is not a particularly easy language to learn for foreigners. And their history with non-German speaking managers has not been that great. Trappatoni worked there twice, his first stay suffered from him not speaking German. His second  stay with them at least speaking German in some fashion (a bit like with his English) was a bit more fruitful. Ancelotti was a catastrophe from their perspective. Guardiola was able to speak German when he joined them (with a thick accent, but you could understand him).

 

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Salzburg and Lazio was a great game too. Salzburg overturning a 4-2 first leg deficit to win 6-5 on aggregate. 

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Tons of goals in Europe this week.  The ESPN app shows highlights for most or all PL, CL and EL games.  

Marseille had a wonder goal from Payet to counter the amazing assist from Keita for Leipzig.  And Salzburg blitzed Lazio. 

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These past three days is a perfect example of why no other sport can ever compete with football.

Also really good to see a lot of teams playing attacking, free-flowing football and making it deep into European tournaments.

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@Notone, I am not an avid follower of the Bundesliga, but I know that what Kovac is doing with Frankfurt is impressive, considering where they were when he took over, but I still find him to be a strange choice of manager for Bayern.

Looking at their recent permanent appointments - Van Gaal, Heynckes, Guardiola and Ancelotti - they were all Champions League winning managers. With Bayern having no real rival for the title in Germany, you would imagine that the Champions League is their main priority. With that in mind, it makes sense why they appointed people like Van Gaal, Guardiola and Ancelotti, even if despite their success in the Champions League with other clubs, none of them managed to succeeded in Europe with Bayern.

Kovac appears to have limited experience in the competition as a manager, if any at all. It seems like they are changing tact from going for well established and experienced managers, like the four I mentioned (although, of course, they would like Heynckes to stay) to aiming for younger, up and coming managerial prospects, such as Kovac - or the others that were linked: Nagelsmann, Tuchel and Hasenhüttl.

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@BigFatCoward and anyone else not impressed with the Anfield atmosphere (or Liverpool fans in general):

Seems like over 4000 former and current players, managers and fans disagree with you (in every category as well).

At least the Toon are second, eh? ;)

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9 hours ago, Mme Erzulie said:

These past three days is a perfect example of why no other sport can ever compete with football.

 

What? Football does not have the monopoly on drama and surprise results.

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10 hours ago, Mme Erzulie said:

These past three days is a perfect example of why no other sport can ever compete with football.

I know this is a football thread, but it's a bit silly to say this with Stanley Cup Playoffs started two days ago. ;) 

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From the same report as Mme shared, Man United (and Arsenal) had the highest percentage of fans that chose the 'most important thing they want to see from their teams' to be 'playing entertaining football'...

I'll be interested to see the full report and where Chelsea lie in the 'noisiest fans and most likely to sing for their team' table. I can us being relegation candidates in that respect.

West Ham fans definitely deserve their spot in the top five for away fans; they were far louder than the home support from Chelsea at Stamford Bridge on Sunday. You'd have thought Hernandez had scored a title clinching goal when he equalised in the second half.

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3 minutes ago, baxus said:

I know this is a football thread, but it's a bit silly to say this with Stanley Cup Playoffs started two days ago. ;) 

I had to look up what the Stanley cup was. Along with most of the rest of the planet. I'm sure it's very exciting. 

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Four rounds of best-of-seven matches between top 16 teams in the fastest team sport in the world's best league in the world.

As entertaining as Champions League may be from time to time, Stanley Cup playoffs are in a whole different ballpark.

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26 minutes ago, mormont said:

I had to look up what the Stanley cup was. Along with most of the rest of the planet. I'm sure it's very exciting. 

So because you don’t follow a sport makes it not exciting? Interesting.

Arsenal-Atleti and Marseille-Salzburg in the Europa Semi. Was kinda hoping Arsenal and Atleti would avoid eachother as that would’ve been a cool final but the semis should be fun too. 

Edited by Mark Antony

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Terrible draw for Arsenal. They will be hoping that Atleti put in a performance like they did last night. Atleti are definite favourites in that one though.

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Luck of the draw for Liverpool.

Chance for Bayern to get some pay back against Real provided the officiating isn't as shit as the last time.

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3 hours ago, Mme Erzulie said:

@BigFatCoward and anyone else not impressed with the Anfield atmosphere (or Liverpool fans in general):

Seems like over 4000 former and current players, managers and fans disagree with you (in every category as well).

At least the Toon are second, eh? ;)

Imagine if we had won the league in the last 91 years or the FA cup in the last 63. 

Edited by BigFatCoward

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41 minutes ago, Mark Antony said:

Well I’m happy with drawing Roma and avoiding Bayern and Madrid. Wish the 2nd leg was at Anfield though.

If ever a team was set up to take advantage of being away in the 2nd leg it is this Liverpool team. 

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2 hours ago, mormont said:

I had to look up what the Stanley cup was. Along with most of the rest of the planet. I'm sure it's very exciting. 

Really? I've never seen a game of hockey in my life but it's pretty famous!

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11 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said:

If ever a team was set up to take advantage of being away in the 2nd leg it is this Liverpool team. 

I'd agree with this.You would have to fancy Liverpool to score away from home.

City's first half strategy of 3 backs and 5 in midfield seemed to be working well against us-glad they changed it for no good reason for the second half.

Do or can Roma set up this way?

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3 hours ago, Mme Erzulie said:

@BigFatCoward and anyone else not impressed with the Anfield atmosphere (or Liverpool fans in general):

Seems like over 4000 former and current players, managers and fans disagree with you (in every category as well).

At least the Toon are second, eh? ;)

Says more about the atmosphere of the Premier League that Liverpool are top than how good the Anfield crowd are. Yes it is substantially better on big European nights, but nothing more than teams in most leagues face on a regular basis.

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