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Rothfuss XIV: The Slow Regard of Luna Lovegood

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16 minutes ago, Vaughn said:

The key point is that there is an evil scary tree in Wise Man's Fear and you can't deny there is more deforestation than ever out there in the world. 

 

Coincidence? 

I think not!

Rothfuss has a lot of explaining to do.

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9 hours ago, Ran said:

Nice try, but no prize. A proper Rothfussian argument is that Beverly Hills Cop is specifically responsible for 327 police homicides that would not have happened had that movie not existed.

Don't you think he was being flip when he said that though?

Edited by Let's Get Kraken

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13 minutes ago, Let's Get Kraken said:

Don't you think he was being flip when he said that though?

No. You'd have to miss what he says about consulting with a statistician and insisting he's not making a joke to get the idea that he was being flippant. He genuinely believes his argument, which means he is bad at logic in that instance.

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49 minutes ago, Ran said:

No. You'd have to miss what he says about consulting with a statistician and insisting he's not making a joke to get the idea that he was being flippant. He genuinely believes his argument, which means he is bad at logic in that instance.

I really want to argue with rothfuss about the the conquest of the Caribbean and Mexico. Something that would cause him to have a meltdown

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2 hours ago, lysmonger said:

I really want to argue with rothfuss about the the conquest of the Caribbean and Mexico. Something that would cause him to have a meltdown

How come? inquiring minds and so on -- this one in particular, since it is stuffed with the facts and history and the geography and cultures of these places and lots of personal on the ground experience of them and the people.  For many years even!

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58 minutes ago, Zorral said:

How come? inquiring minds and so on -- this one in particular, since it is stuffed with the facts and history and the geography and cultures of these places and lots of personal on the ground experience of them and the people.  For many years even!

Don't feed it.

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12 hours ago, Vaughn said:

The key point is that there is an evil scary tree in Wise Man's Fear and you can't deny there is more deforestation than ever out there in the world. 

Coincidence? 

There's also an Evil Tree in the Mighty Boosh. I smell conspiracy!

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:sigh:

I''ve been foolish. I allowed myself to get my hopes up when I saw this thread had gained six pages in a week. "Major news must have broken!" I thought happily for a few moments. "Maybe the series in't completely lost after all!"

But now, it's just the thread sinking to ...uhh ...not a new low, maybe, but a spurt of unrelated activity. And it still appears to be taken for granted that the Kingkiller Chronicle will never get anywhere.

Shame. I liked the first book immensely, and the second was definitely enjoyable too, but then I discovered the status of the series' writing progress. Since then I've been wary of re-reading the books, since I don't need to fuel my enthusiasm for something that isn't likely to continue.

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On 9/25/2018 at 6:13 PM, Darth Richard II said:

What the fuck is dear leader hero fantasy?

Goodkind?

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Goodkind gives me the creeps. Rothfuss just makes me sad.

I wish he had the guts to say, "No, I won't finish the trilogy" and get on with his life (and ours). Everyone would be happier and maybe he'd write something new worth a damn

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On 9/26/2018 at 4:59 AM, Kyll.Ing. said:

:sigh:

I''ve been foolish. I allowed myself to get my hopes up when I saw this thread had gained six pages in a week. "Major news must have broken!" I thought happily for a few moments. "Maybe the series in't completely lost after all!"

 

This is my problem with the Thorn of Emerblain thread.

 

Of course the answer is obvious - author rotation. Rothfuss has to finish Winds of Winter, Lynch the Door of Stone and Martin the Thorn of Emberlain. 

 

Dense, complicated plotting and settings for Rothuss. 

Ripping yarns and somewhat morally dubious protagonist for Lynch. 

Lots of description of food for Martin. 

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59 minutes ago, Vaughn said:

This is my problem with the Thorn of Emerblain thread.

 

Of course the answer is obvious - author rotation. Rothfuss has to finish Winds of Winter, Lynch the Door of Stone and Martin the Thorn of Emberlain. 

 

Dense, complicated plotting and settings for Rothuss. 

Ripping yarns and somewhat morally dubious protagonist for Lynch. 

Lots of description of food for Martin. 

That could be fun

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18 hours ago, Vaughn said:

Of course the answer is obvious - author rotation. Rothfuss has to finish Winds of Winter, Lynch the Door of Stone and Martin the Thorn of Emberlain. 

 

Dense, complicated plotting and settings for Rothuss. 

Ripping yarns and somewhat morally dubious protagonist for Lynch. 

Lots of description of food for Martin. 

Why are we not funding this? :lol:

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On 9/23/2018 at 5:13 PM, Ran said:

What I find especially absurd is that there's a chapter in TWF that romanticizes teenagers abusing alcohol ("The three boys, one dark, one light, and one-for lack of a better word-fiery, do not notice the night. Perhaps some part of them does, but they are young, and drunk, and busy knowing deep in their hearts that they will never grow old or die. They also know that they are friends, and they share a certain love that will never leave them. The boys know many other things, but none of them seem as important as this. Perhaps they are right.") , and yet here he is going on about a writer's social responsibility, alleging absurd real-world impacts from Tolkien having smoking or Disney having frog-kissing; far more people are going to die from alcohol than from kissing frogs or at the hands of mass murderers and serial killers.

Is he a hypocrite? Maybe that's what we should be talking about, because for certain tens of thousands of impressionable young people have read his books, and god knows if one of them kills someone or themselves drinking and driving, we know who to blame... :P

I did come across a panel today where he addresses this directly.

Around the 34 minute mark he does say that people who emulate Kvothe are getting the wrong message from the books, and he's troubled by the fact that people have actually incorporated portions of them into their weddings.

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The problem there is that Death of the Author kicks in. The text portrays Kvothe as amazingly good at everything - why wouldn't his commentary on love also be seen as non-problematic? If Rothfuss wants to convey a particular thematic point, he needs to do it via the text, not through authorial interviews. It's not simply a matter of POV either. Scott Lynch is able to make it very clear that his protagonist's attitude towards love is profoundly unhealthy - no-one's going to quote Locke Lamora on love.

I also cringe a bit about Rothfuss' attack on Esio Trot. Dahl wrote dark stories, featuring objectively messed-up people. It's part of his enduring appeal for children. Esio Trot isn't supposed to be a love story, it's about our protagonist being clever. 

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