Shryke Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 3 hours ago, larrytheimp said: Yup. Bush was really terrible - and the rest of the world did lose respect for the US because of it. This was a common sentiment amongst my college friends from overseas. My freshman year of school was 2001, Especially those from the Middle East, but also with South American and Euro students and professors. I remember a few American friends who were studying in London joked about trying to pass as Canadians. Now, Trump certainly has the likely potential to go far beyond the damage W did, but he hasn't had an Iraq yet. Or a Patriot Act. And yet Trump has already shit on the US's reputation more then GWB without it. Trump as the representative of the US is just unbelievably toxic. He's a fucking joke. He is, as DG said, the next devolution of the Republican party. GWB stripped of any good qualities or understanding and respect for the power he wields or the rule of law. He's like Nixon if Nixon was a narcissistic moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukle Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Anyone else get the horrible sinking feeling that Trump wants a war in Iran to draw attention away from his 10,000 scandals? Once in a war, everyone tends to rally to the flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Other steps in the devolution of the Republican Party during the Bush the Lesser years: the constant implication that the opposition party are traitors or terrorist sympathizers simply for disagreeing with the President's policies, and the war on objective facts (I remember the story of the Bush official dismissing the "reality based community"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Billy Tipton Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 What's the ratio of liberals to conservatives on this forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, Yukle said: Anyone else get the horrible sinking feeling that Trump wants a war in Iran to draw attention away from his 10,000 scandals? Once in a war, everyone tends to rally to the flag. I don't think that really works. It's not the way Trump thinks and it doesn't match what's been going on imo. Trump wants to kill the Iran Deal because he hates Obama and everything he's done. The war-lusters want a war with Iran because they don't like Iran. The two meet in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Billy Tipton Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, Yukle said: Anyone else get the horrible sinking feeling that Trump wants a war in Iran to draw attention away from his 10,000 scandals? Once in a war, everyone tends to rally to the flag. No I feel like a free North Korea ought to draw some attention. Until CNN decides upon a new angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Yeah come back when N Korea is actually free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Billy Tipton Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Darth Richard II said: Yeah come back when N Korea is actually free. Oh it'll likely take decades until it's completely free. However, there have been some very promising baby steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 McCain urges Senate to reject Haspel for CIA https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/09/mccain-haspel-senate-cia-579882 Quote “I believe Gina Haspel is a patriot who loves our country and has devoted her professional life to its service and defense,” he said in a statement. “However, Ms. Haspel’s role in overseeing the use of torture by Americans is disturbing. Her refusal to acknowledge torture’s immorality is disqualifying.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukle Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Martell Spy said: McCain urges Senate to reject Haspel for CIA https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/09/mccain-haspel-senate-cia-579882 He'd know this first hand, poor guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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