Rhom Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Figured I’d take a cue from the Bakker threads and just copy my now two year old intro from the other thread. Amazing it took that long to close out the thread when we used to have three to four active topics going at a time! Its a damn tragedy that we only have one thread dedicated to Joe on the first page, and that one is now locked. So anyways, here's a new thread about the legend himself. (Yes, he really did chase off some ruffians with a banister after already taking a shot to the head.) I presume we can accept spoilers up through Sharp Ends in this topic and for Shattered Sea. Resources unavailable to those of us who discovered Joe back around the release of The Blade Itself that are now free for you to peruse include Wert's very own handy dandy link to a map of The First Law world. And to address the perplexingly persistent question of "What order should I read Abercrombie?" From Wert's link above, here's a timeline of all the stories set in the world of the The First Law: 566 (spring): A Beautiful Bastard 570 (summer): Made a Monster 573 (autumn): Small Kindnesses 574 (autumn): The Fool Jobs 575: (spring) The Blade Itself 575 (summer): Skipping Town 576-77: Before They Are Hanged 576 (spring): Hell 576 (summer): Two's Company 577: Last Argument of Kings 579-80: Best Served Cold 580: Wrong Place, Wrong Time 584 (summer): Some Desperado 584 (autumn): Yesterday, Near a Village Called Barden 584: The Heroes587 (autumn): Three's a Crowd 590 (summer): Freedom! 590: Red Country 592 (spring): Tough Times All Over 605: A Little Hatred (due in 2019) 6??: The Trouble With Peace (due in 2020) 6??: The Beautiful Machine (due in 2021) For reference... The bold titles are the main sequence novels and can (and should) be read in publication/chronological order. All those non-bolded are short stories that are available in Sharp Ends. There you have it. Oh... and we like the Shattered Sea trilogy around here too. Much debate on where they fit on the shelves at your local bookseller, but they generally are a lighter read than TFL. They are completely unrelated to TFL. Proceed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 It’s getting close now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End of Disc One Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 He has said the upcoming trilogy is written like a trilogy of trilogies. It's going to be a nightmare trying to figure out the reading order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Cosca Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Rhom said: From Wert's link above, here's a timeline of all the stories set in the world of the The First Law: 566 (spring): A Beautiful Bastard 570 (summer): Made a Monster 573 (autumn): Small Kindnesses 574 (autumn): The Fool Jobs 575 (summer): Skipping Town 576 (spring): Hell 576 (summer): Two's Company 576: The Blade Itself 576-77: Before They Are Hanged 577: Last Argument of Kings 579-80: Best Served Cold 580: Wrong Place, Wrong Time 584 (summer): Some Desperado 584 (autumn): Yesterday, Near a Village Called Barden 584: The Heroes 587 (autumn): Three's a Crowd 590 (summer): Freedom! 590: Red Country 592 (spring): Tough Times All Over 605: New Trilogy Book 1 (due in 2019) For reference... The bold titles are the main sequence novels and can (and should) be read in publication/chronological order. All those non-bolded are short stories that are available in Sharp Ends. Doesn't Hell take place at the end of BTAH? Shouldn't it be read after that book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I have a question about Half a War. Was Yarvi's remorse genuine, during his final conversation with Skara, or an act? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 minute ago, SeanF said: I have a question about Half a War. Was Yarvi's remorse genuine, during his final conversation with Skara, or an act? Hard to say with Yarvi. I want to think so, but he really turned out to be a bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Just now, Rhom said: Hard to say with Yarvi. I want to think so, but he really turned out to be a bastard. It's hard not believe the worst of him. Did he have Skifr's family murdered, and frame his enemies for it? Did he see Brand's likely death in the raid as collateral damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 32 minutes ago, Nicomo Cosca said: Doesn't Hell take place at the end of BTAH? Shouldn't it be read after that book? Yeah it does. Wert's timeline is one year off. Joe confirmed in an old thread that TBI starts in spring 575. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Cosca Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Consigliere said: Yeah it does. Wert's timeline is one year off. Joe confirmed in an old thread that TBI starts in spring 575. So the Reading order should be something like this? 566 (spring): A Beautiful Bastard 570 (summer): Made a Monster 573 (autumn): Small Kindnesses 574 (autumn): The Fool Jobs 575: (spring) The Blade Itself 575 (summer): Skipping Town 576-77: Before They Are Hanged 576 (spring): Hell 576 (summer): Two's Company 577: Last Argument of Kings 579-80: Best Served Cold 580: Wrong Place, Wrong Time 584 (summer): Some Desperado 584 (autumn): Yesterday, Near a Village Called Barden 584: The Heroes 587 (autumn): Three's a Crowd 590 (summer): Freedom! 590: Red Country 592 (spring): Tough Times All Over 605: New Trilogy Book 1 (due in 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Nicomo Cosca said: So the Reading order should be something like this? 566 (spring): A Beautiful Bastard 570 (summer): Made a Monster 573 (autumn): Small Kindnesses 574 (autumn): The Fool Jobs 575: (spring) The Blade Itself 575 (summer): Skipping Town 576-77: Before They Are Hanged 576 (spring): Hell 576 (summer): Two's Company 577: Last Argument of Kings 579-80: Best Served Cold 580: Wrong Place, Wrong Time 584 (summer): Some Desperado 584 (autumn): Yesterday, Near a Village Called Barden 584: The Heroes 587 (autumn): Three's a Crowd 590 (summer): Freedom! 590: Red Country 592 (spring): Tough Times All Over 605: New Trilogy Book 1 (due in 2019) Yeah, that would be the chronological order except BTAH covers 575-576 autumn to spring. TBI - 575 spring to autumn Skipping Town - 575 summer BTAH - 575-576 autumn to spring Hell - 576 spring Two's Company - 576 summer LAOK - 576-577 summer to winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 8 hours ago, SeanF said: I have a question about Half a War. Was Yarvi's remorse genuine, during his final conversation with Skara, or an act? I think he might feel some regret for some of the things he's done, but not to the extent that he wouldn't do the exact same things again if it would help him achieve his goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 23 hours ago, SeanF said: I have a question about Half a War. Was Yarvi's remorse genuine, during his final conversation with Skara, or an act? Genuine remorse in my opinion, but he would have done the same again if it gave him an advantage. He is essentially Bayaz at the beginning of his career. 23 hours ago, SeanF said: Did he have Skifr's family murdered, and frame his enemies for it? Did he see Brand's likely death in the raid as collateral damage? Yes and yes. In fact, I think that he wanted Brand's death in order to fuel Thorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheRevanchist said: Genuine remorse in my opinion, but he would have done the same again if it gave him an advantage. He is essentially Bayaz at the beginning of his career. Yes and yes. In fact, I think that he wanted Brand's death in order to fuel Thorn. And once you go down that path, it's hard to stop. He can never really rest secure while either Skara or Thorn are still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 3 hours ago, TheRevanchist said: Genuine remorse in my opinion, but he would have done the same again if it gave him an advantage. He is essentially Bayaz/Walter White at the beginning of his career. Yes and yes. In fact, I think that he wanted Brand's death in order to fuel Thorn. I think it's also important to recognise there's an ego at play too. So even if there is remorse, there's a "I beat them all" aspect to him to which makes the remorse a little empty. 3 hours ago, SeanF said: And once you go down that path, it's hard to stop. He can never really rest secure while either Skara or Thorn are still alive. That's a really good set up for a sequel if Joe ever entertains the thought of returning. Who knows how messy Yarvi could have made things after another generation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Phipps Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I admit, I have only read the First Law Trilogy. I need to read the rest of his work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Huh, just realised I somehow never read the final book of Shattered Sea. Odd, I loved the first two books and was looking forward to the final instalment but somehow I just kept putting it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 On 5/22/2018 at 7:51 AM, Rhom said: Figured I’d take a cue from the Bakker threads and just copy my now two year old intro from the other thread. Amazing it took that long to close out the thread when we used to have three to four active topics going at a time! Probably because Abercrombie actually brings home endings without leaving stuff he's started unfinished. Unlike some other authors whose threads have a bunch of activity *cough Bakker cough Rothfuss* despite not even having any more books on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyedGhost Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Wow, that's great news. Here's hoping he doesn't suddenly go to the Rothfuss school of revising, and we'll see the books in a very short time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Well it would be hard to go the Rothfuss route unless Joe is lying about the books actually being written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Darth Richard II said: Well it would be hard to go the Rothfuss route unless Joe is lying about the books actually being written. Joe has always been sincere and giving regular updates. Next to Sanderson and Abraham, he is one of those author I trust when they say that the book is almost ready and will be released in this time. But Gosh, I miss a book from him. His last book was 2 years ago, and I enjoy his books more than those of any author in the genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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