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Cricket 33: ODIs Still Aren’t Proper Cricket Edition


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4 hours ago, Jeor said:

Both sides have lots of positives but the batting is a mess. India are going to have to unearth some form quickly otherwise the English bowling lineup is going to feast on them for the rest of the series. Although this wicket turned a bit from the start, I don't think it was treacherous.

I’d get Pujara into the team if I was picking the India side. He did struggle for Yorkshire but he’s still the kind of player they need.

England, as usual, have a few issues with their batting lineup. Malan should really be dropped but with Stokes out he might get a life. How they replace Stokes is also a bit of a question mark, the obvious thing to do would be just to go with Moeen Ali but they might want to stick with 4 seamers so maybe Woakes if he’s fit enough.

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43 minutes ago, ljkeane said:

England, as usual, have a few issues with their batting lineup. Malan should really be dropped but with Stokes out he might get a life. How they replace Stokes is also a bit of a question mark, the obvious thing to do would be just to go with Moeen Ali but they might want to stick with 4 seamers so maybe Woakes if he’s fit enough.

They have now dropped Malan and replaced him with Ollie Pope, who is a young batsman I don't really know much about, although his career average of 63 suggests he has talent. Making a Test debut at Lord's against India could be a big challenge for a young player.

Woakes is also added to the squad in place of Stokes, although I think you might be right that Moeen will be in the final team, especially with Lord's possibly helping the spinners more.

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15 minutes ago, williamjm said:

They have now dropped Malan and replaced him with Ollie Pope, who is a young batsman I don't really know much about, although his career average of 63 suggests he has talent. Making a Test debut at Lord's against India could be a big challenge for a young player.

I haven’t seen anything of him either although the other option was apparently Joe Clarke who’s only 22 as well. On the plus side I think getting another right hander into the batting lineup’s probably a good idea anyway.

Ed Smith, although I haven’t necessarily agreed with all of the decisions, does seem like he’s going to be more proactive than England have been in recent years.

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Malan had to go. He’s been given a decent run with not much to show for it apart from a serviceable Ashes tour.

As much as I’d love to see him play, I think England will play four seamers (no Moeen) at Lord’s. Woakes to bat 7.

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Conflicting evidence is emerging in the Stokes trial - Stokes claims that he was protecting a gay couple from physical abuse, while the prosecution is alleging that Stokes was actually engaging in homophobic remarks/conduct himself. Will be interesting now to see how the verdict/sentencing plays out, as well as the ECB's reaction. 

On team selection, I'm surprised that India appear to be sticking with Pandya. Personally I'd drop him for Ravi Jadeja and retain the three quicks who played at Edgbaston. With a first class batting average under 30 and a bowling average of nearly 40, I'm not sure he's a useful inclusion in these conditions. 

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Cummins and Hazlewood both confirmed unfit for Australia’s upcoming test series against Pakistan. The Aussies are now pretty much reduced to a second XI with the sandpaper trio all still banned. And their overseas record recently is apalling anyway.

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Only 6 overs of play managed and India already two wickets down.

It'll be a nightmare to bat on a day like this - lots of rain interruptions, overcast skies perfect for Anderson/Broad bowling, and they get all these rain breaks so that Root can essentially choose to bowl them throughout the day.

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Woakes gets Kohli relatively early. That’s a massive blow for India.

ETA: Buttler doesn’t really look to flash at second slip, he might be thinking about his finger, but it hasn’t mattered so far as after both drops he’s been presented with a straight forward catch next ball.

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4 hours ago, Paxter said:

India have fallen into a massive heap here. I’m guessing the conditions have played a major role, but that doesn’t excuse another Pujara run out! Amateur hour.

The run out was a bit comical. I think most batting line-ups would have struggled to deal with this English bowling attack (particularly Anderson) in these conditions, but there were some poor techniques on show. I think Adil Rashid might not have much to do in this match.

 

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England almost dug themselves another hole with the performance of their top order but Bairstow and Woakes bailed them out. Woakes has had a great test, he's such a good player in English conditions it's a shame he's not much use anywhere else.

 

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26 minutes ago, ljkeane said:

England almost dug themselves another hole with the performance of their top order but Bairstow and Woakes bailed them out. Woakes has had a great test, he's such a good player in English conditions it's a shame he's not much use anywhere else.

It did look for a while as if they wouldn't have a big first innings lead - which would have been unforgivable considering how much easier batting was today than yesterday. I think Woakes is looking very likely to get the man of the match award after batting and bowling so well - he's always showed some potential with the bat but this was a particularly good innings. I was a bit worried about only playing six specialist batsman, but the all-rounders seem to be playing better than most of the specialists at the moment.

I think India did make a mistake selecting two spinners and only two specialist seamers in these conditions. I think they got a bit sucked in by all the pre-series talk about how big an impact spin could have due to the recent weather.

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Talk of a declaration overnight but none seems forthcoming - I think England still have plenty of time to wrap up this match and they probably only want to bat once. The pitch seems to be playing some tricks with a few balls keeping low and there would be pretty long odds on India putting up a fight in their second innings, based on how they went the first time around.

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Broad unplayable as soon as his place in the side looks under threat, again. Will be interesting what happens if Stokes is back for the next test.

 

Heartening to think I could have done Rashid’s job just as well this match.

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That was a crushing defeat for India, apparently in terms of overs bowled it was the third-shortest in England in the last century. They must really be hoping conditions change for the rest of the series, although hoping for the ball not to swing at Trent Bridge might be a bit unrealistic. I can only assume somewhere Rahul Dravid is sitting watching the Indian batsmen's defensive techniques and shaking his head sadly.

7 hours ago, Philokles said:

Broad unplayable as soon as his place in the side looks under threat, again. Will be interesting what happens if Stokes is back for the next test.

I think it's fair to assume Woakes isn't going to be dropped after the performance. Perhaps Curran would have to make way, which would also be harsh because he's been playing well.

7 hours ago, Philokles said:

Heartening to think I could have done Rashid’s job just as well this match.

I think I can understand why he might have tuned out in the first innings when he completely failed to react to the ball being chipped just over his head.

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So this is what happens when Hereward doesn't post during England tests!

That was a bit embarrassing for India. Can't believe how easily* the Indian batting lineup got rolled. A few newbies in the team, so probably not a major concern just yet. But they need to step up next game to show that they can adapt.

*some damn good bowling from the Poms. Thank god they can't do that in Australia! More reason to stick to the Kooka as far as I am concerned. Until the new Aussie batters learn how to bat :P 

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