A True Kaniggit Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 22 minutes ago, red snow said: 4 posts in only ten minutes? You're a madman I tell you! A madman!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCpMIe8FjEU Prime recruiting material for Suicide Squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, A True Kaniggit said: 4 posts in only ten minutes? You're a madman I tell you! A madman!!!!!!!!!!!! Prime recruiting material for Suicide Squad. The devil makes work for idle hands. That and my alarm clock went off on a day where it wasn't required for another 2 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGP Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 23 hours ago, red snow said: I'd argue the Justice league, prior to MCU making us like the individual heroes consists of far more iconic heroes than the Avengers. Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman are arguably the most iconic superheroes out there. I'd say there's only Spider-man and possibly Wolverine who could be considered in the same league. The Flash and Aquaman are no slouches either and I'd have put them on par with Iron Man and Captain America prior to the MCU catapulting the IP of IM, Cap and Thor. Basically DC had to go out of their way to make divisive/terrible films featuring Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. That the films featuring them together underperformed is shocking. A former Marvel EIC was quoted as saying failing to make a hit film with Superman and Batman is like being a porn star who can't get it up. A crude but apt comparison. Agreed. I had my angsty phase when Marvel really appealed, and I was an X-men and Captain America fan more or less as long as I was into the medium, but DC always resonated more with me. I watched Justice League again just last night, and it's difficult to reconcile how fucking bad it is. And it's not just plot/storytelling. The characterization was more than a little off key, abysmal in some cases [Bruce and Barry in particular, and to some extent Arthur. Diana was the only exception] and, the sheer volume of the CGI nearly negated the point of having CGI FX At. ALL. There was so much of it, that clearly the budget was blown and/or it had to be farmed out to meet deadline, so continuity and quality both bottomed out. I mean, fuck, Marvel is much better at mixing CGI and live action even, which is ridiculous given it's pretty much movie making 101 and with the budgets these movies are playing with. I know I'm getting sour grapes here, but it's just unbelievable that DC/WB are cocking this up so badly. They tried to play catch up on the double and face planted so hard their eyes burst and eardrums collapsed or some shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGP Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 9 hours ago, red snow said: I still wonder how many of these Harley Quinn films will see the light of day. It feels like batgirl was a sure thing for years and then faded away. A bit like the Flash, Cyborg and green lantern films. It's a shame as I'd rather see the variety from the above over Gotham city sirens, birds of prey and suicide squad which are fairly similar projects. Suicide squad must have been profitable for it to be the type of film most emulated. You'd think they'd be chasing up wonder woman like projects but the only aspect I can see there is in the all female teams of sirens and birds which I fear is somewhat oversimplifying why Wonder Woman worked. But I'm maybe being cynical and the writers/directors have exciting screenplays and ideas for these films and that's what sold them over characters who have powers and don't hang out on Gotham rooftops. It's why I hope aquaman is at least decent otherwise I fear DC films will only be based on Gotham vigilantes. As I understood it at the time, Robbie blew a few execs away with her Birds of Prey pitch, which was before or around [iirc] the same time SS hit the theaters. Though it improved marginally after the extended trailer, I'm still not holding out hope for Aquaman. And Shazam looks like complete ass lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 42 minutes ago, JEORDHl said: As I understood it at the time, Robbie blew a few execs away with her Birds of Prey pitch, which was before or around [iirc] the same time SS hit the theaters. Though it improved marginally after the extended trailer, I'm still not holding out hope for Aquaman. And Shazam looks like complete ass lol Shazam seems to be undecided as to whether it wants to be a "home-alone" superhero comedy or try and appeal to wider audiences. The lack of "the Rock" is worrying too. Also they seem coy as to whether Shazam is part of the DC universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Can the DCEU never catch a break? Aquaman is looking like a solid movie and was maybe regarded as having a clear run at making a good showing at the box office, with no real direct competition of any quality. And what happens? Possibly the best ever Transformers movie is going to be released in the same week with a major cross over of appeal in the target audiences. How did a potentially 90%+ movie arise from the ashes of a poorly to mediocrely reviewed franchise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Lol. I think Aqua-man will do fine. If I've learnt anything over these past few years its that superhero movies can make a ton of cash no matter how bad they are, just add some hype and a big star and you are sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 39 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: Can the DCEU never catch a break? Aquaman is looking like a solid movie and was maybe regarded as having a clear run at making a good showing at the box office, with no real direct competition of any quality. And what happens? Possibly the best ever Transformers movie is going to be released in the same week with a major cross over of appeal in the target audiences. How did a potentially 90%+ movie arise from the ashes of a poorly to mediocrely reviewed franchise? In the uk it's up against spiderverse which seems to be getting the best reviews. I think bumblebee and aquaman will both suffer at the hands of badly received connected films. 37 minutes ago, Heartofice said: Lol. I think Aqua-man will do fine. If I've learnt anything over these past few years its that superhero movies can make a ton of cash no matter how bad they are, just add some hype and a big star and you are sorted. He didn't save Justice league and that also starred wonder woman. So unless the current batman and superman are incredibly toxic i doubt having "guy from game of thrones/Stargate" will save. All the reviews I've read suggest it's fun. Maybe a lower tier marvel film good but without the exceptional good will of the marvel brand. Out of the 3 films bumblebee is most likely the one I'll skip. I've heard complaints of it basically being ET and i'm pretty confident that the G1 robots in the trailer is probably the same duration they'll get in the whole film eg it's just there to get nostalgia fans on board. Although if i have the time i will still try and support because it would be a shame for them to return to awful bay movies . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, red snow said: He didn't save Justice league and that also starred wonder woman. So unless the current batman and superman are incredibly toxic i doubt having "guy from game of thrones/Stargate" will save. Maybe, but when you see Venom outgrossing even Wonder Woman and Suicide Squad out grossing Winter Soldier then it can only make you depressed. BvS also did very well, despite being a pretty dire movie. The hype got it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Heartofice said: Maybe, but when you see Venom outgrossing even Wonder Woman and Suicide Squad out grossing Winter Soldier then it can only make you depressed. BvS also did very well, despite being a pretty dire movie. The hype got it through. Venom is a strange one. Not the worst superhero film but I'm perplexed out how it did so well. It could be chinese market expanding all the time allowing mediocre films to become more successful each year? Eg if all those films had been released in a similar time frame their box offices could have been different? And i do think suicide squad made viewers very, very skeptical of future DCU films in the sense that many people believe critics if the say a dc film is bad now. So it got away with it but made it much harder for the following films to succeed. To be honest my enjoyment of a dc film has gelled pretty well with critical consensus. So reviews of aquaman being dumb fun but lacking depth sounds about right to me (although reviews are having far too much fun with sea related puns) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, red snow said: Venom is a strange one. Not the worst superhero film but I'm perplexed out how it did so well. It could be chinese market expanding all the time allowing mediocre films to become more successful each year? Eg if all those films had been released in a similar time frame their box offices could have been different? And i do think suicide squad made viewers very, very skeptical of future DCU films in the sense that many people believe critics if the say a dc film is bad now. So it got away with it but made it much harder for the following films to succeed. To be honest my enjoyment of a dc film has gelled pretty well with critical consensus. So reviews of aquaman being dumb fun but lacking depth sounds about right to me (although reviews are having far too much fun with sea related puns) The Chinese box office is now completely huge and so getting your movie into it can make or break how well you do. That might be part of it. However I think these movies are surviving on the sheer popularity of their properties and marketing potential. Both Venom and SS are incredibly marketable, when you add in the Tom Hardy and Harley Quinn factors. I got the sense that the audiences were excited by the 'idea' of these movies rather than their qualities. Plus when you add in the translation factor for foreign audiences, its hard to know if their reference points are the same as an American one, do they even notice if something is bad in the same way when its subtitled or dubbed (something I have been guilty of when watching Chinese movies for instance). I kind of think that the rules of film making have been thrown out over the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrist Simon Steele Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 So is Brightburn a retcon of the Man of Steel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurktan Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 31 minutes ago, Simon Steele said: So is Brightburn a retcon of the Man of Steel? Seemingly a "bad guy" superman story just without the name brand. Surprised they can get away with ripping that much off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrist Simon Steele Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 56 minutes ago, Slurktan said: Seemingly a "bad guy" superman story just without the name brand. Surprised they can get away with ripping that much off. OR...is it the true prequel to BvS? That movie would suddenly make so much more sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 The bell was that?!!? Superman reimagined as a horror movie?!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 9 hours ago, Slurktan said: Seemingly a "bad guy" superman story just without the name brand. Surprised they can get away with ripping that much off. It looks like they used the same sets even. Wonder if WB knew about this before giving Gunn a job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Really strange this isn't it? It looks so much like it that yuou wonder they can get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Wow, have to say I will be watching that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Tiger Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Saw Aquaman two days ago. The acting is far worse than in Marvel films, but it has that 90s Mortal Kombat film haminess that makes it fun. It's the Power Rangers/Indiana Jones/Jurassic Park film I always wanted to see. Spoiler With some Godzilla tossed in. Lots of spectacle and special effects. I saw it in Imax without 3D and I was very happy I did. If id seen it with 3D my eyes would have probably gone to hell. I would give it a 7/10, but I will give it an 8/10 instead. Spoiler Because no loved ones were stuffed into the fridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 6 hours ago, Red Tiger said: Hide contents With some Godzilla tossed in. Are you trying to say... there's a lot of fish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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