Mwm Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Lord of the rings did so well as a movie trilogy; and then fucking Hollywood just dropped the genre in favor of these cookie cutter Disney movies-that are extremely easy. Even the Hobbit-despite anyone’s personal opinions-those movies were HUGE hits too. And no one has tried anything since! I thank god we’re seeing such a resurgence in tv after Game of Thrones. With the LOTR prequel show, more GOT shows, possibly Conan and Wheel Of Time and the BLACK COMPANY, the Witcher(Netflix is an absolute shit show with their writers though), Fionavar Tapestry. Dungeons and Dragons has ordered a movie; which could be the beginning of a shared universe for the forgotten realms(there’s almost no way they can’t fuck this up-I hope to be proven wrong, but their not taking it seriously...) An Earthsea movie has just been ordered. Despite my personal feelings about not considering it EPIC fantasy, name of the wind is also becoming a movie. What do you think is going to be the ratio between the two? My own personal feelings on another matter-there’s just so much fucking science fiction in both movies and tv. For every good one(the expanse), there’s a million bad one, but they TRY to constantly make entertainment in that genre and honestly I’m quite sick of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 So you want to have a shit ton of bad epic fantasy films alongside all the bad SF films. Because that's what's going to happen if everyone starts doing something. And there were other attempts, including a new Conan, which sucked. Chronicles of Narnia started out ok, then turned bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mwm Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Corvinus of Teranga said: So you want to have a shit ton of bad epic fantasy films alongside all the bad SF films. Because that's what's going to happen if everyone starts doing something. And there were other attempts, including a new Conan, which sucked. Chronicles of Narnia started out ok, then turned bad. Conan’s sword and sorcery; narnia is high fantasy... And yes, at least they actually keep trying with science fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 You brought up Conan. And high and epic fantasy are interchangeable. LOTR is high fantasy, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mwm Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Corvinus of Teranga said: You brought up Conan. And high and epic fantasy are interchangeable. LOTR is high fantasy, too. I brought up Conan, the same as I did with Name of the wind(which I said I considered high fantasy) High fantasy is MUCH smaller scale and length then epic fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Mwm said: High fantasy is MUCH smaller scale and length then epic fantasy. It's literally just another word for the same thing. In any case a key reason there's more SF I'd imagine is that it just doesn't cost as much, even for the expensive stuff- even the biggest scale SF can mostly be done with CGI and set/soundstage work, whereas a real big epic fantasy needs just as much of that but also shitloads of location work. And anyway you're somewhat arguing off a false premise. You're complaining about the volume of all SF against the volume of what is already a subgenre of fantasy that you've narrowed even further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 You are also arguing for quantity over quality. I would take one good fantasy movie (others have already explained the high/epic fantasy thing) over any more soulless, generic, CGI wankfests like the Hobbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I definitely want more fantasy films and tv but I don’t want them to start cranking out any old shit. It always does make me sad that all my favourite fantasy films are from the 80s though. I want more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mwm Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Helenas Musikautomat said: You are also arguing for quantity over quality. I would take one good fantasy movie (others have already explained the high/epic fantasy thing) over any more soulless, generic, CGI wankfests like the Hobbit Well they’re not even trying; so all you got is the Hobbit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mwm Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Theda Baratheon said: I definitely want more fantasy films and tv but I don’t want them to start cranking out any old shit. It always does make me sad that all my favourite fantasy films are from the 80s though. I want more. The 80’s? Clash of the titans and Excalibur? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 There's a lot of obstacles between starting out on a quest to produce a fantasy film or series and actually, you know, having a fantasy film up there on the screens at home, in the pocket and the theaters. One can announce as many meetings and discussion about optioning something as one likes. How many them even get a first round of first drafts for scripts, much less assigned a shooting budget, much less getting all the way from 'pre-production' to production? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 43 minutes ago, Mwm said: The 80’s? Clash of the titans and Excalibur? More like Dark Crystal, Willow, The Princess Bride, Conan the Barbarian, Legend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 20 minutes ago, Corvinus of Teranga said: More like Dark Crystal, Willow, The Princess Bride, Conan the Barbarian, Legend... You forgot Labyrinth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 How could you forget Beastmaster??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 26 minutes ago, Darth Richard II said: You forgot Labyrinth! 15 minutes ago, Eriksen's New Mascot said: How could you forget Beastmaster??? That's what the dots were for!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Was beastmaster really the 80s? Holy shit I'm old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mwm Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 Yeah...the genre really needs some new blood in terms of movies. I guess if oldies are your favorite though you probably won’t agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Mwm said: The 80’s? Clash of the titans and Excalibur? Princess Bride, Neverending Story, Legend, Labyrinth, Dark Crystal, Ladyhawke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Oh yes and Willow... and why wouldn’t you think that means we want new blood lol. I love fantasy movies and want more and find it’s weird that so many good fantasy films from the 80s and not a lot since lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mwm Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 17 minutes ago, Theda Baratheon said: Oh yes and Willow... and why wouldn’t you think that means we want new blood lol. I love fantasy movies and want more and find it’s weird that so many good fantasy films from the 80s and not a lot since lol Oh; thought that you meant you didn’t like LOTR since you said you preferred 80’s movies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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