U.S. Politics-Hope Floats 2: We All Float Down Here

[mcbigski]

4 minutes ago, DMC said:

If it's a safe district explain why it matters.

First, ICE isn't a cabinet-level department.  Second, wanting to revert to the War Department doesn't make you a moderate anything, it just makes you nonsensical perhaps afflicted with a strange obsession with, well, war.

Well the more avowed socialists the Ds run the harder it is to look moderate to the swing voters.

As for DoD, call a spade etc.  Also im on record to rename DoJ the Justice League so i get that I'm in the minority here.

[DMC]

23 minutes ago, DanteGabriel said:

All agencies dedicated to chasing down brown people look the same I guess.

But ICE has the way cooler acronym.

[DMC]

1 minute ago, mcbigski said:

Well the more avowed socialists the Ds run the harder it is to look moderate to the swing voters.

One freshman congresswoman is going to do this?  Do you have any other evidence - how many other "extremists" have won Democratic primaries?

2 minutes ago, mcbigski said:

As for DoD, call a spade etc.

Well, I'm not sure if it's a "spade," but neither would War - the DOD engages in a hell of a lot more than that.

3 minutes ago, mcbigski said:

Also im on record to rename DoJ the Justice League so i get that I'm in the minority here.

I don't get it.  Does this mean you actually like Justice League?  But shouldn't you hate the DOJ?  Because, in turn, anyone that hates the Justice League is not in the minority, anywhere.

[mcbigski]

3 minutes ago, DMC said:

But ICE has the way cooler acronym.

If I were to the left and had more musical talent that would inspire me to make a real kick ass Imperial March/vanilla ice mashup right now.

[DMC]

I once got high with Vanilla Ice in college.  It was weird and kinda sad.

[Rippounet]

34 minutes ago, mcbigski said:

Getting more polarizing reps out of safe districts might not help the Blue Wave prospects though.

I think no one knows for sure. The latest debates here have been about that on some level. Basically, "radical/socialist" Democratic candidates could scare away "centrist/moderate" voters... Or they could help mobilize the Democrats' electoral base. Or it could be a bit of both, or neither, and we wouldn't be able to tell, because the US is a big country and one campaign/race might not affect others as much as one might think.

We'll need the midterms' detailed results to know which strategy might work best. But it's not a given that wooing moderates is the way to go.

In the greater picture, I think it's better if Democratic candidates reflect the ideas of their constituents, however radical they may seem at the national level. With Trump being the figurehead of Republicans I doubt there's that much political risk there. At this point in time, being anti-Trump is becoming increasingly harder for moderates/"swing voters" anyway, because repairing the damage done will require at least some degree of radicalism. For better or for worse, Trump is the national polarizing figure here, not someone like Ocasio-Cortez.

[DMC]

19 minutes ago, Rippounet said:

because the US is a big country and one campaign/race might not affect others as much as one might think.

This.  As long as your candidates aren't literally off the wall or incredibly offensive - like Christine O'Donnell or Todd Akin, it's really not going to matter who's running in a specific district except in that specific district.

19 minutes ago, Rippounet said:

We'll need the midterms' detailed results to know which strategy might work best. But it's not a given that wooing moderates is the way to go.

I don't think we do.  Dean's 50 state strategy worked - ironically backed by Rahm even though the two loathed each other.  They both understood the best way to maximize seats is to run the best candidates for the district, regardless of ideology.

ETA:  This also means running moderate candidates with significantly conflicting views than the progressive base where necessary - something the latter needs to get over as well.

[mcbigski]

Thats a reasonable sounding analysis Rip, with the caveat that you may have a different perception of moderate than the actual median.  Revisit it mid November I think.

As to shooter today, is the NYT going to characterize Jarrod Ramos as a white hispanic?  

[OldGimletEye]

Just now, mcbigski said:

Well the more avowed socialists the Ds run the harder it is to look moderate to the swing voters.

Can I ask a question?

Why is it everyone always tells Democrats they always got to be more moderate.

Meanwhile, Republicans constantly bicker and argue with each other about who is more conservative.

Why does the moderation advice always apply to Democrats, but not to Republicans?

Anyone know?

Bueller? Bueller?

[James Arryn]

So, it’s been revealed that Trump’s G6 blow-up was about him insisting that everyone agree to hand over the Crimea to Putin. 

Apparently when they refused he got very angry, and then threatened to make financial demands of NATO allies if they haven’t come around by the time of the next NATO summit. 

There is daylight robbery going on right under our noses, and no one seems to really care all that much. 

[Week]

1 hour ago, mcbigski said:

As to shooter today, is the NYT going to characterize Jarrod Ramos as a white hispanic?  

What very important point are you trying to make here? How do you expect (and hope) for the media to represent the dead after this shooting? "5 enemies of the state were brought to justice." ?

I want to say -- "if you were half as smart as you think you are, you would be half as smart as you really are"...but that seems generous.

[Darth Richard II]

What the fuck is a white hispanic?

[mcbigski]

44 minutes ago, OldGimletEye said:

Can I ask a question?

Why is it everyone always tells Democrats they always got to be more moderate.

Meanwhile, Republicans constantly bicker and argue with each other about who is more conservative.

Why does the moderation advice always apply to Democrats, but not to Republicans?

Anyone know?

Bueller? Bueller?

Not entirely sure but maybe because republicans tend to run as who they are and democrats tend to 'evolve' once they get power.

Which would also explain a lot of the anti trump hysteria on the left.  I don't think anyone picketed The Apprentice for his Nazi beliefs but now he s seen as literally Hitler^666.

[Week]

2 minutes ago, mcbigski said:

Not entirely sure but maybe because republicans tend to run as who they are and democrats tend to 'evolve' once they get power.

Which would also explain a lot of the anti trump hysteria on the left.  I don't think anyone picketed The Apprentice for his Nazi beliefs but now he s seen as literally Hitler^666.

Were any children split from their parents and put in cages during the Apprentice? (like 2,000+)

Genuinely asking -- I never watched an episode.

[Jace, Extat]

Just now, Week said:

Were any children split from their parents and put in cages during the Apprentice? (like 2,000+)

Genuinely asking -- I never watched an episode.

Where ya been playa? Missed ya.

[DMC]

42 minutes ago, James Arryn said:

So, it’s been revealed that Trump’s G6 blow-up was about him insisting that everyone agree to hand over the Crimea to Putin. 

Apparently when they refused he got very angry, and then threatened to make financial demands of NATO allies if they haven’t come around by the time of the next NATO summit. 

There is daylight robbery going on right under our noses, and no one seems to really care all that much. 

Citation?

[mcbigski]

13 minutes ago, Darth Richard II said:

What the fuck is a white hispanic?

Someone like George Zimmerman who's ethnicity according to to media is contigent on serving the narrative.

[mcbigski]

8 minutes ago, Week said:

Were any children split from their parents and put in cages during the Apprentice? (like 2,000+)

Genuinely asking -- I never watched an episode.

Almost certainly if that was during the previous administration.

[Week]

4 minutes ago, Jace, The Sugarcube said:

Where ya been playa? Missed ya.

What uuuup? I was posting some -- just with a Croatian flag -- but brah, it's been a rough couple weeks between werk and this fucking shit in our country. 

[DMC]

2 minutes ago, mcbigski said:

Almost certainly if that was during the previous administration.

Can you ever have a substantive response, or is your entire point in viewing these threads reliant upon propagating falsehoods via one liners?