Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 22 hours ago, Rhom said: What specifically would Butler be frustrated about with Towns/Wiggins that they need to “learn”? They not putting in the work? Their personalities don't match at all. Wiggins is laid back (too laid back) and KAT is happy-go-lucky. Meanwhile Butler is intense AF, and he hates the younger player's nonchalant attitudes. It's important to keep in mind that Wiggins had an incredibly spoiled upbringing and Towns has been getting perks since he was a kid. Butler, OTOH, was kicked out of his house when he was 13, bounced around a lot, went through the JuCo route to the NCAA and was a second round pick. He's had to fight for everything and resents how Towns and Wiggins did not. This inevitable friction was so obvious, to the point where this schlub predicted it over a year ago. 22 hours ago, briantw said: If I were him I'd be frustrated that the team paid Wiggins all the money in the world despite not being good at basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relic Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 On 8/15/2018 at 1:23 AM, briantw said: If I were him I'd be frustrated that the team paid Wiggins all the money in the world despite not being good at basketball. Remember when Love for Wiggins was considered a horrible trade? That was funny. (sorry, love bringing it up. i'm petty) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperry Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 It is bizarre to me that Wiggins wasn't able to become a decent player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Relic said: Remember when Love for Wiggins was considered a horrible trade? That was funny. (sorry, love bringing it up. i'm petty) Eh, I’m still happy with the trade. Love was an overrated stat stuffer who didn’t offer anything when it came to winning games. He can go back to being that now that LeBron is gone. Wiggins still has upside, but that contract could become a problem. 1 hour ago, sperry said: It is bizarre to me that Wiggins wasn't able to become a decent player. I still think there’s plenty of time, though it can’t be denied that he doesn’t seem to have much fight in him. One thing I will say though is that he’s never been coached up. Saunders was a part time coach. Mitchell was an awful coach. And Thibs has somehow managed to be even worse. I wonder what Wiggins would be if he was paired with a good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 8 hours ago, SpaceForce Tywin et al. said: Eh, I’m still happy with the trade. Love was an overrated stat stuffer who didn’t offer anything when it came to winning games. He can go back to being that now that LeBron is gone. Wiggins still has upside, but that contract could become a problem. If Love is an overrated stat stuffer, what does that make Wiggins? He's not even close to as good as Love in his worst season and he's being paid like he's LeBron. Sometimes you just gotta take the L. That trade was a big loss for the Wolves, especially when you factor in that ludicrous extension Wiggins got. Love just got overpaid, but Wiggins is a replacement level player and he's making more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 51 minutes ago, briantw said: If Love is an overrated stat stuffer, what does that make Wiggins? He's not even close to as good as Love in his worst season and he's being paid like he's LeBron. Sometimes you just gotta take the L. That trade was a big loss for the Wolves, especially when you factor in that ludicrous extension Wiggins got. Love just got overpaid, but Wiggins is a replacement level player and he's making more. Wiggins is an overrated volume scorer at this point, but that doesn't justify the hate he gets. When ever I read an article about him, it seems like every author needs to begin by saying he's one of the most polarizing young talents in the game, with his supporters pointing to his upside while detractors point to his advance metrics. And saying that Wiggins has never had a better season than Love is silly. The trade would be a loss if they were the same age, but they aren't. Love is about to turn 30 while Wiggins is just 23. If Wiggins was a bit older I'd say sure, but he still has plenty of time to improve. Furthermore, there are fears that Love's body is breaking down on him. No one can say that about Wiggins. And lastly, looking at Love's stats, he's really only had four All-Star quality seasons. The rest have been average, but he still gets in on name recognition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperry Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Love is a great offensive player. Wiggins isn't good at anything aside from inefficient volume scoring. He's a legitimately poor player at this point in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, sperry said: Love is a great offensive player. Wiggins isn't good at anything aside from inefficient volume scoring. He's a legitimately poor player at this point in his career. Exactly. Love is a legitimately good player in the league. He's not a superstar. He'll never be a top ten player. But right now he's comfortably one of the best thirty or so players in the league. Wiggins isn't even in the top one hundred. I don't care about the age difference. I'd easily expect Love to be a better player over the next five years (the lengths of both their respective contracts) than Wiggins. Wiggins hasn't had a single season where he has been a positive contributor on the court. Love has done that basically every season. And for all the talk about Love's defense, he's historically been a better defender than Wiggins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Cleveland needed Love to win that championship. Trade won, was worth it, would do business again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relic Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Peopel dont give Love enough credit for being an above average rebounder and perhaps the best outlet passer in the game. He helped create SO many easy scoring opportunities with his rebound/outlet pass to a streaking James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Hell of a trade for the Rockets. That's highway robbery. http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24528593/houston-rockets-trade-ryan-anderson-deanthony-melton-phoenix-suns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Joel Embiid Quote So I’m chilling one night, and I go on YouTube, and I’m thinking I’m about to figure this shooting thing out. I go to the search box like…. HOW TO SHOOT 3 POINTERS. Nah. HOW TO SHOOT GOOD FORM Nah. Then the light bulb went off, man. I typed in the magic words. WHITE PEOPLE SHOOTING 3 POINTERS. Listen, I know it’s a stereotype, but have you ever seen a normal, 30-year-old white guy shoot a three-pointer? That elbow is tucked, man. The knees are bent. The follow-through is perfect. Always. You know how in America, there’s always an older guy wearing like EVERLAST sweat-shorts at the court? That guy is always a problem. His J is always wet. Those are the guys I learned from on YouTube. Just random people shooting threes with perfect form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proudfeet Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Timberwolves sign Luol Deng. http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24635940/luol-deng-agrees-one-year-deal-minnesota-timberwolves At this point, someone has to take away Thibodeau's GM authority right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Sixers' new GM is... Elton Brand? I'd have been less surprised to hear that they'd signed him as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime L Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 The Lakers are clearly one team. Going to guess Houston/Philly are the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, Jaime L said: The Lakers are clearly one team. Going to guess Houston/Philly are the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 So essentially we gave up three good prospects for one year of Butler and a prospect who has had three surgeries on his foot in a year. FML FIRE THIBS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 44 minutes ago, SpaceForce Tywin et al. said: So essentially we gave up three good prospects for one year of Butler and a prospect who has had three surgeries on his foot in a year. FML FIRE THIBS!!!! Amazing how quickly the wheels fell off in Minny. When you guys drafted Towns and traded for Butler, I thought you were a year or two away from being a Western Conference contender. Then the Wiggins contract happened and I knew the window closed before it even technically opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurktan Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Jaime L said: The Lakers are clearly one team. Going to guess Houston/Philly are the other two. According to the Woj the three teams are: Brooklyn, the Clips, the Knicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 All this just makes me smug about the people who were insisting the Celtics needed to flip the Fultz/Tatum pick for Butler or Playoff P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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