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[Book spoilers] Plot holes that aren't in the books

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1 hour ago, Dragon in the North said:

A plot hole is a very specific criticism that involves a plot point that directly contradicts the logic presented in the story. For example, if Tyrion had said that Doran had two sons, and then later had one, that would have been a plot hole. But they kept the wording vague, possibly because they weren’t sure what they were going to do with the Dornish plot yet. If there is a possible explanation, like all of those “ maybes” and “may haves” I put in my post, it can’t be considered a plot hole. However, you can call it bad writing all you want.

I disagree with your definition of a plot hole then, I wouldn't say it is only a direct contradiction. Using Wikipedia's definition (I know it's not the best but...) Plot hole is a gap or inconsistency in a story line that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot. Plot holes can be contradictions obviously, but they are not limited to them.

Several of the things that you say are not plot holes would be in that case. So understanding your definition of plot hole, I get why you would say the things you did.

edit: formatting issues in my post..

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2 hours ago, btfu806 said:

I disagree with your definition of a plot hole then, I wouldn't say it is only a direct contradiction. Using Wikipedia's definition (I know it's not the best but...) Plot hole is a gap or inconsistency in a story line that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot. Plot holes can be contradictions obviously, but they are not limited to them.

Several of the things that you say are not plot holes would be in that case. So understanding your definition of plot hole, I get why you would say the things you did.

edit: formatting issues in my post..

That sounds similar to the definition I gave. I believe contradiction and inconsistency are synonymous, or are at least closely related to one another.

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On ‎7‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 6:51 AM, Dragon in the North said:

5. Not a plot hole. Mirri Maz Durr could have told her off screen.

Sorry, but assuming that pretty crucial information was given offscreen is assuming s***** storytelling.

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23 hours ago, btfu806 said:

I disagree with your definition of a plot hole then, I wouldn't say it is only a direct contradiction. Using Wikipedia's definition (I know it's not the best but...) Plot hole is a gap or inconsistency in a story line that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot. Plot holes can be contradictions obviously, but they are not limited to them.

Several of the things that you say are not plot holes would be in that case. So understanding your definition of plot hole, I get why you would say the things you did.

edit: formatting issues in my post..

Contradict almost literally means go against.

Does this sentence sound any different: Plot hole is a gap or inconsistency in a story line that contradicts the flow of logic established by the story's plot.

The term plot hole is grossly overused. Most of these examples are just cruddy writing.

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