James Arryn Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 58 minutes ago, SpaceForce Tywin et al. said: Republicans really will support whatever Trump does. There really needs to be a counterbalancing term to “Trump Derangement Syndrome.”: https://www.axios.com/republicans-poll-donald-trump-press-conference-putin-5776322f-a483-4e21-b50c-028799b08367.html It’s not even how low the bar is set, it’s the fact that there is no bar at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 58 minutes ago, SpaceForce Tywin et al. said: Republicans really will support whatever Trump does. There really needs to be a counterbalancing term to “Trump Derangement Syndrome.”: https://www.axios.com/republicans-poll-donald-trump-press-conference-putin-5776322f-a483-4e21-b50c-028799b08367.html SurveyMonkey is hot garbage for political polling (D- rating from 538). CBS did a live-caller poll, which found 68% of Republicans supported Trump's handling of summit; far lower than the 79% in SurveyMonkey. That seems high, but is actually a crazy low level of support from a political party for an action from their party's President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, Fez said: SurveyMonkey is hot garbage for political polling (D- rating from 538). CBS did a live-caller poll, which found 68% of Republicans supported Trump's handling of summit; far lower than the 79% in SurveyMonkey. That seems high, but is actually a crazy low level of support from a political party for an action from their party's President. It’s almost exactly the same as the response to his Charlottesville ‘on many sides’ presser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitttenGuard Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I have difficulty to take a poll from a site called SurveyMonkey as serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 hour ago, SpaceForce Tywin et al. said: Republicans really will support whatever Trump does. There really needs to be a counterbalancing term to “Trump Derangement Syndrome.”: https://www.axios.com/republicans-poll-donald-trump-press-conference-putin-5776322f-a483-4e21-b50c-028799b08367.html It's also frustrating that the focus has been very much on Republican support rather than Independent and overall support. That's much more important in the grand scheme of things. We know Trump has a base and we know after 2 years of conditioning, they believe everything he says and nothing the traditional media reports. This isn't news and the framing of all these polls around Republican support is tiresome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mexal said: It's also frustrating that the focus has been very much on Republican support rather than Independent and overall support. That's much more important in the grand scheme of things. We know Trump has a base and we know after 2 years of conditioning, they believe everything he says and nothing the traditional media reports. This isn't news and the framing of all these polls around Republican support is tiresome. It is very frustrating. It's like if something polls above 75% for Republicans, then it is "popular" and you should expect Trump and Congress to definitely do it. The opinions of the remaining 70-80% of the country are irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, James Arryn said: It’s almost exactly the same as the response to his Charlottesville ‘on many sides’ presser. It's also (though probably not entirely the same people) roughly the level of support Bush had in his last couple years in office. More fuel for the idea that you'll found at least around a third of people in favor of just about anything. Also, at least some number of those people didn't actually hear any news about the summit but felt the need to say they supported Trump rather than the give "Don't Know/Not Sure" answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, Fez said: It's also (though probably not entirely the same people) roughly the level of support Bush had in his last couple years in office. More fuel for the idea that you'll found at least around a third of people in favor of just about anything. Also, at least some number of those people didn't actually hear any news about the summit but felt the need to say they supported Trump rather than the give "Don't Know/Not Sure" answer. Darth Cheney polled at around 29 percent. I have always used that as a yardstick of people that are completely hopeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Trump promised them better, cheaper health care. It’s not happening. A key small business group says Trump’s new insurance rules are unworkable, after pushing the idea for nearly 20 years. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/19/trump-health-care-better-cheaper-693362 Quote But the NFIB, which vigorously promoted association health plans for two decades, now says it won’t set one up, describing the new Trump rules as unworkable. And the NFIB isn’t the only one: Several of the nationwide trade groups that cheered Trump’s new insurance rules told POLITICO they’re still trying to figure out how to take advantage of them and whether the effort is even worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnot OG Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Nielsen doubled down on Trumps both sides bs and admitted the DHS will partner within white nationalists / supremacist groups to get their message across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1393312-my-name-is-reek New trump meme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Trump has invited Putin to America in the fall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Republicans Just Refused to Spend More to Secure States’ Vulnerable Election Systems https://slate.com/technology/2018/07/republicans-refused-to-spend-more-to-secure-states-vulnerable-election-systems.html Quote Republicans argued that Congress already doled out $380 million this year in grants to states to update their systems, pointing out that many of those states still have money left over and that there haven’t been new requests from states for more money. But Democrats responded that some states have only just received their grants and other state officials are unlikely to request more funding if it’s not already available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 6 hours ago, Scott de Montevideo! said: Trump apologia derangement? I’m not sure that works phonetically or grammatically. 5 hours ago, DMC said: Jim Jones Syndrome. Lol, but too many people wouldn’t get it. 5 hours ago, James Arryn said: It’s not even how low the bar is set, it’s the fact that there is no bar at all. And thus partisanship shall thrive. Great..... 5 hours ago, Fez said: SurveyMonkey is hot garbage for political polling (D- rating from 538). CBS did a live-caller poll, which found 68% of Republicans supported Trump's handling of summit; far lower than the 79% in SurveyMonkey. That seems high, but is actually a crazy low level of support from a political party for an action from their party's President. Can't be worse than Rasmussen! Now to the Watch thread with you, man who knows nothing about shark movies! 4 hours ago, Mexal said: It's also frustrating that the focus has been very much on Republican support rather than Independent and overall support. That's much more important in the grand scheme of things. We know Trump has a base and we know after 2 years of conditioning, they believe everything he says and nothing the traditional media reports. This isn't news and the framing of all these polls around Republican support is tiresome. We know Democrats hate Trump and Independents seem to be tuning out. That's why people are watching to see if there's finally a moment when the dam breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Morpheus said: Trump has invited Putin to America in the fall Hey, after you punk someone in your backyard, you go and punk them in theirs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, SpaceForce Tywin et al. said: Hey, after you punk someone in your backyard, you go and punk them in theirs! After Helsinki, I dread to think what their second date is going to be like - I'm expecting more than just a peck on the cheek... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 25 minutes ago, Which Tyler said: After Helsinki, I dread to think what their second date is going to be like - I'm expecting more than just a peck on the cheek... What happens between two good friends in the Oval Office stays in the Oval Office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, SpaceForce Tywin et al. said: What happens between two good friends in the Oval Office stays in the Oval Office. Could be a throwback for Kavanaugh --https://www.vox.com/2018/7/9/17548782/brett-kavanaugh-trump-supreme-court-anthony-kennedy /Badjoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Trumpanistas’ deranged apologia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 This sounds awkward... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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