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3 hours ago, Spockydog said:

Another reason why Messi will never be considered as good as Maradona, who carried the Argies, almost single-handedly, to the WC in '78.

Also, fwiw, I don't think anyone seriously expected Croatia to do anything at the WC, until they saw how brilliantly Modric was playing.

Wrong World Cup.

Diego's World Cup was 1986. 

 

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Looks like the Nations League will get off to a fittingly shambolic start as Denmark have picked a squad of third and fourth tier and futsal players for their game against Wales. The first team are in a dispute over pay and they have already been given a suspended ban after a women’s match was cancelled for the same reason.

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Argentina only went out of the World Cup because they lost to the future champions by a mere 4-3, and Messi managed that with one of the weakest Argentine sides of all time and a coach who was off his rocker. Even Croatia - featuring a Modric with far, far more support around him on the field and in the dugout than Messi had - couldn't get within one goal of the champions.

Forget the Ballon d'Or, Messi should be canonized.

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7 hours ago, Teng Ai Hui said:

I just discovered something called the Nations League.  I can't decided whether UEFA's main goal is to try to make the international breaks appear more important or to create some nonsense that will work as a cash grab.

It was originally intended as a convoluted way of trying to get more European sides seeded at the World Cup. The way FIFAs ranking system worked, if you played international friendlies your ranking points would fall regardless of the result. This tournament now classifies all those matches as competitive so UEFAs teams get more points relative to the rest of the world who still play friendlies. But FIFA changed the system so that loophole has closed yet UEFA can’t back down now.

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14 hours ago, Davrum said:

Argentina only went out of the World Cup because they lost to the future champions by a mere 4-3, and Messi managed that with one of the weakest Argentine sides of all time and a coach who was off his rocker. Even Croatia - featuring a Modric with far, far more support around him on the field and in the dugout than Messi had - couldn't get within one goal of the champions.

Forget the Ballon d'Or, Messi should be canonized.

However, the goal margin in their encounter flattered Argentina big time. Argentina couldn't have had any complaints if France had sent them home with 4-1 spanking. 

In addition, Argentina was lucky to have survived the group stage. They were already on the verge of elimination then, and again, had Nigeria advanced, there also would've been very little for them to complain about.

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29 minutes ago, Jordan La Cabra said:

Ahhh, international break...

Europe's leading coaches have asked UEFA to review the away goal rule.

 

There's a friend of mine at work who is convinced that home goals is the way to go. He says if you can encourage home teams to really try and bang them in then it makes for a good spectacle because the away team is always going to play defensively anyway. Could make every away team park the bus though.

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21 minutes ago, Jordan La Cabra said:

Europe's leading coaches have asked UEFA to review the away goal rule.

That's interesting.

If extra time is the alternative though, doesn't this just give further advantage to the team playing at home in the second leg? And wouldn't that suit a more cautious mindset from the away side in the first leg?

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12 minutes ago, Dolorous Gabe said:

That's interesting.

If extra time is the alternative though, doesn't this just give further advantage to the team playing at home in the second leg? And wouldn't that suit a more cautious mindset from the away side in the first leg?

I wonder how much they're willing to push the envelope for a tiebreaker that avoids extra time.

For example, a left-field idea could just be who scores the first goal of the tie - that might give an advantage to a team that plays at home first, which could somewhat mitigate the natural advantage of playing at home second.

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18 minutes ago, Jeor said:

For example, a left-field idea could just be who scores the first goal of the tie - that might give an advantage to a team that plays at home first, which could somewhat mitigate the natural advantage of playing at home second.

Or it encourages teams to adopt a more cautious counterattacking type of play to minimize the risk of running into a counter attack,

If you want to get rid of the away goals, it's gotta be extra time (unless you want to scrap that altogether and want to go straight to the penalties).

 

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1 hour ago, Jeor said:

I wonder how much they're willing to push the envelope for a tiebreaker that avoids extra time.

For example, a left-field idea could just be who scores the first goal of the tie - that might give an advantage to a team that plays at home first, which could somewhat mitigate the natural advantage of playing at home second.

I would be tempted to suggest the CL knockout rounds be played in one game at a neutral venue equidistant between the two clubs involved. There are both pros and cons to that and I doubt they would go for it but I'd like to see it discussed as an option.

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The only change to the away goals rule that I'd consider making is that if a game goes into extra time then away goals should no longer count. Currently if a game goes into ET, the away team in the 2nd leg has an extra 30 minutes to score an away goal which then leaves the home team with under 30 minutes to score two turning home ground advantage into a disadvantage. 

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5 hours ago, A Horse Named Stranger said:

However, the goal margin in their encounter flattered Argentina big time. Argentina couldn't have had any complaints if France had sent them home with 4-1 spanking. 

In addition, Argentina was lucky to have survived the group stage. They were already on the verge of elimination then, and again, had Nigeria advanced, there also would've been very little for them to complain about.

No, sure, I was just hyperbolically goofing, especially given that a major part of the reason they were on the verge of elimination was that Modric's Croatia had wrecked them 3-0.

And we're really just talking about 2nd and 3rd place anyway, I'm sure we can all agree Cristiano is once again the rightful king.

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