Ellard Stark Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Not only he whooped Robb Stark's arse at WF, Sansa wanted him...deep deep inside her. Okay now Pros/Cons for each Baratheon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Joff Pros: determined, stern. Cons: Evil, and a coward when it's tight. He fold tail at Blackwater. Tommen Pros: Young, listens to others' counsel. Bronn got him right. Cons: His pros can be turned against him. He must start reading what he is signing and show personality. Otherwise he will be considered weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Ice Spider Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Joffrey Pros: Strong-willed Confident Handsome Cons: Poor listening skills Sociopath Sadist Unyielding in the face of reason Sense of entitlement Coward Inspires no loyalty Doesn't really care about day-to-day governance Easy to manipulate Tommen Pros: Polite & respectful Eager Kind-hearted Cons: Weak-willed Immature Over-eager (eg. signs everything) Soft-hearted Coward (unclear from text but likely) Easy to manipulate Pushover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kandrax Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/28/2018 at 8:38 PM, Ellard Stark said: deep deep inside her. Hey, they are kids only. On 8/28/2018 at 8:55 PM, The Sunland Lord said: He fold tail at Blackwater. His mother sent people to take him away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Kandrax said: His mother sent people to take him away. Yeah well he didn't try too hard to stay. He was the king, could've used his authority to send them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldve Taken The Black Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 3 hours ago, The Sunland Lord said: Yeah well he didn't try too hard to stay. He was the king, could've used his authority to send them back. If I'm a guardsman, and Cersei tells me to get her son out of harms way, I'm not returning without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Shouldve Taken The Black said: If I'm a guardsman, and Cersei tells me to get her son out of harms way, I'm not returning without him. That might be, but Joffrey's courage is in question. Do you think Robert, Robb Stark or Tywin would've come back to their mums in the middle of battle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphis Baratheon Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 If your a cat or kitten and your living in Maegor's holdfast you definitely want to be living under Tommen's rule and not Joffrey's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kandrax Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, The Sunland Lord said: That might be, but Joffrey's courage is in question. Do you think Robert, Robb Stark or Tywin would've come back to their mums in the middle of battle? If guards took them by force, they would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldve Taken The Black Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 23 minutes ago, The Sunland Lord said: That might be, but Joffrey's courage is in question. Do you think Robert, Robb Stark or Tywin would've come back to their mums in the middle of battle? Probably not, but many thirteen year olds would. Joffery is obviously a monster, but I don't really think he's a coward in that sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Shouldve Taken The Black said: Probably not, but many thirteen year olds would. Joffery is obviously a monster, but I don't really think he's a coward in that sense. Many people in Westeros proved themselves in fighting at young age. Jaime, Tywin, Blackfish, Steffon, Barristan, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Mac Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 54 minutes ago, The Sunland Lord said: Many people in Westeros proved themselves in fighting at young age. Jaime, Tywin, Blackfish, Steffon, Barristan, etc. Tywin was a teenager, but he was certainly older than 13 when he fought in the Nine Penny wars, likely 17. Steffon was 14/15 when he squired in the Nine Penny wars, there is no indication of how much battle he actually saw. The Blackfish around 15, but like Jaime and Barristan, he is an elite case rather than the norm. The three of them are regarded as exceptional knights, Joffrey not being on their level does not indicate cowardice. Joffrey was not just a 13 year old in a war but a the central target, the enemy were not going to stop until they were defeated or he was dead. 2 hours ago, Ralphis Baratheon said: If your a cat or kitten and your living in Maegor's holdfast you definitely want to be living under Tommen's rule and not Joffrey's. oh sure Cats are cute but that monster Tommen wanted to outlaw Beets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetta Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Joff gets far better meme action on the interwebs. A Google of 'Joffrey and Draco' is a laugh riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphis Baratheon Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 19 hours ago, Bernie Mac said: oh sure Cats are cute but that monster Tommen wanted to outlaw Beets. No one is perfect. But for all we know Cersei and/or Tommen's other handlers are serving him an unreasonable amount of beets that no normal man, woman or child could handle eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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