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49 Yale Law professors sign letter against Kavanaugh

 

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/faculty-at-brett-kavanaughs-alma-mater-are-demanding-screeching-halt-to-his-confirmation/

 

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Where, as here, a sexual assault has been alleged against an individual nominated for a lifetime appointment in a position of public trust, a partisan hearing alone cannot be the forum to determine the truth of the matter. Allegations of sexual assault require a neutral factfinder and an investigation that can ascertain facts fairly. Those at the FBI or others tasked with such an investigation must have adequate time to investigate facts. Fair process requires evidence from all parties with direct knowledge and consultation of experts when evaluating such evidence. In subsequent hearings, all of those who testify, and particularly women testifying about sexual assault, must be treated with respect.

The confirmation process must always be conducted, and appointments made, in a manner that gives Americans reason to trust the Supreme Court. Some questions are so fundamental to judicial integrity that the Senate cannot rush past them without undermining the public’s confidence in the Court. This is particularly so for an appointment that will yield a deciding vote on women’s rights and myriad other questions of immense consequence in American lives.

 

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It happens as Yale Law School investigates problems of its own, namely whether two professors, Jed Rubenfeld and Amy Chua (husband and wife), advised female law clerk candidates that “look[ing] like models” could help them get a gig working for Kavanaugh.

 

 

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Democrats Should be Excited—but Not Too Excited—About Texas Now Being a “Toss-Up”

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/texas-toss-up-beto-orourke-ted-cruz.html?via=homepage_taps_top

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This marks the second time the Cook Political Report has moved the advantage in the Senate Texas race leftward in less than two months and is the latest indication that U.S. Rep. Beto O’Rourke has a legitimate chance of taking down GOP Sen. Ted Cruz this fall.

 

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Great, Rapey Jesus.

Conservative Evangelical Leaders Want Senate to Dismiss Assault Charges and Confirm Kavanaugh Now

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/09/christian-right-leaders-dismiss-kavanaugh-assault-charges.html

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“One of the political costs of failing to confirm Brett Kavanaugh is likely the loss of the United States Senate,” said Ralph Reed, the founder of the Faith and Freedom Coalition who is in frequent contact with the White House.

 

“If Republicans were to fail to defend and confirm such an obviously and eminently qualified and decent nominee,” Mr. Reed added, “then it will be very difficult to motivate and energize faith-based and conservative voters in November.”

 

 

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Here’s what Franklin Graham had to say about the allegations against Kavanaugh in that CBN interview:

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T]here wasn’t a crime that was committed. These are two teenagers and it’s obvious that she said no and he respected it and walked away–if that’s the case but he says he didn’t do it. He just flat out says that’s just not true. Regardless if it was true, these are two teenagers and she said no and he respected that so I don’t know what the issue is.

 

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5 hours ago, Maithanet said:

I more or less assumed that after the Merrick Garland experience that the new norm is no President is allowed to make appointments to the SC unless his/her party also controls the Senate.  Which sucks, because it is way easier for the Republicans to get to 51 in the Senate than it is for Democrats.  But there's simply nothing but "precedent" to keep the Senate from just never bringing a nominee up, even if it means 4 or 7 years with a vacancy. 

What particularly sucks is that in all likelihood, the appellate courts and then all courts will soon follow suit.  Republicans hadn't quite stripped Obama of court appointment power altogether, they just mucked things up so that it took preposterously long and Obama left office with a ton of vacancies.  But there's every reason to assume that next time a Democrat is in the WH, Republicans will be even less beholden to precedent than they were for Obama. 

My memory is failing me. Has a president ever tried to bypass a vote in the Senate and just placed someone on the Supreme Court?  

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2 hours ago, lokisnow said:

This is a very reasonable approach! I would only add that no person who attended undergrad as a legacy should be allowed on any federal court ever. 

Also, a fifty year ban on Harvard, Yale and Columbia law schools from the federal courts (judges and clerks) is a related and very pleasant thought.

If we're talking pie in the sky here, ban members of The Federalist Society. These hypocrites say we can't have activist liberal judges, i.e. left leaning judges regardless of their activism, while they actively push the most activist conservative lawyers to become judges.

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3 hours ago, Morpheus said:

Looks like Trump has his pretext for firing Rosenstein. In meetings last year he discussed getting the cabinet to invoke the 25th amendment and suggested taping Trump to expose his stupidity.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/us/politics/rod-rosenstein-wear-wire-25th-amendment.html

I doubt that Rosenstein will be in his position at the time the Mueller investigation is concluded, be it by its own conclusions or by Trump ending it. My only question is will his firing happen before or after the midterms? If he does it beforehand, he all but guarantees losing the House. If Republicans lose the House and/or the Senate, he can blame it on the Russia investigation and Republicans will nod accordingly and be fine with him ending it. If they keep both chambers, Trump will replace Sessions and his successor will find a way to nuke it.

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1 hour ago, Martell Spy said:

Great, Rapey Jesus.

Conservative Evangelical Leaders Want Senate to Dismiss Assault Charges and Confirm Kavanaugh Now

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/09/christian-right-leaders-dismiss-kavanaugh-assault-charges.html

 

Wait... wouldn't having a Republican-dominated Senate be a reason for these guys to be motivated to vote? Do they not know how that works? Is it too much to have Evangelical leaders make sense? Judging by past history, AYEP. It is. 

 

 

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15 hours ago, OldGimletEye said:

I have just one simple question for you. Just what in the hell do you want done?

You keep complaining about "elites", but are never very specific about what you want done about it.

Are you just mainly pissed off about "identity politics" or do you have something else in mind? And please get to the point and don't try to do the Texas Two step around the issue.

Very briefly, in this thread I'm mainly trying to convince people that identity politics as practiced by the modern American left is a bad idea. I don't have a What is to be done? pamphlet for you; if it was obvious (or at least as attractive as the original was to its contemporaries), somebody would have publicized it already.

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19 minutes ago, Altherion said:

Very briefly, in this thread I'm mainly trying to convince people that identity politics as practiced by the modern American left President Trump is a bad idea. 

FTFY

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43 minutes ago, Altherion said:

Very briefly, in this thread I'm mainly trying to convince people that identity politics as practiced by the modern American left is a bad idea. I don't have a What is to be done? pamphlet for you; if it was obvious (or at least as attractive as the original was to its contemporaries), somebody would have publicized it already.

One thing that could be done is to forbid people shooting other people because they are black, and when they do shoot people for being black, punish them.

There's also a whole lot that could stop being done like calling cops on people for existing while being black, for sitting in their own cars, inhabiting their own apartments, eating lunch in their own unversity's dorm common room, for doing paid lawn work, delivering newspapers, o so much could be done to get rid of identity politics when white people stop doing these things, doncha think?  

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11 hours ago, Kalbear said:

I like that so many people who are putting forward the idea that if this works against KAVANAUGH any dem nominee can be hit by this ignore one small thing. 

 

Judges aren't all men. 

And while it certainly is possible for women to sexually assault others, it is significantly less likely, and even less likelier to have any credibility. 

Fear not, they can always be accused of improper behavior towards children. :)

More seriously, I don't know how much less credible accusations can be. Consider:

  1. Despite the fact that the alleged event can only have happened more than three decades ago, the allegations only come out after the hearings are finished.
  2. Neither a concrete time nor a concrete place is specified. In fact, there is no physical evidence whatsoever.
  3. The lone alleged witness claims he recalls nothing of the sort and is confident that Kavanaugh would never do this.
  4. The accuser's own description from 2012 is of an event with a different number of witnesses.

It's possible to concoct less plausible allegations by including even more disprovable details, but if the above content-free set is your idea of credible, I would like to offer you a great bargain on a bridge from Brooklyn to Manhattan that I happen to own. Trust me, President Trump would really hate it if somebody like you bought this bridge. :)

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Six of AZ rethug dentist candidate Paul Gothar's siblings got together and made a political message endorsing his Dem opponent, because, they know their brother is a racist.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/407832-gop-lawmakers-siblings-endorse-dem-opponent-difficult-to-see-my-brother-as

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Six of Gosar's sblings — Tim Gosar, Jennifer Gosar, Gaston Gosar, Joan Gosar, Grace Gosar and David Gosar — decry his views on policies such as health care and immigration, adding that their brother's positions have torn the family apart. 

"It would be difficult to see my brother as anything but a racist," Grace Gosar says in one advertisement. 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Altherion said:

Fear not, they can always be accused of improper behavior towards children. :)

More seriously, I don't know how much less credible accusations can be. Consider:

  1. Despite the fact that the alleged event can only have happened more than three decades ago, the allegations only come out after the hearings are finished.
  2. Neither a concrete time nor a concrete place is specified. In fact, there is no physical evidence whatsoever.
  3. The lone alleged witness claims he recalls nothing of the sort and is confident that Kavanaugh would never do this.
  4. The accuser's own description from 2012 is of an event with a different number of witnesses.

It's possible to concoct less plausible allegations by including even more disprovable details, but if the above content-free set is your idea of credible, I would like to offer you a great bargain on a bridge from Brooklyn to Manhattan that I happen to own. Trust me, President Trump would really hate it if somebody like you bought this bridge. :)

You have missed that at the time this assault took place many of Dr. Blasey's classmates noted how different she now was, and that she basically just disappeared from the scene.  Other of her classmates recall that at the time at the school the kids talked about it.  You also seem to miss there is no statute of limitations on accusations of sexual assault against boys by Catholic priests.  So why is there supposed to be one on an older boy at school assaulting a younger female classmate, hmmmmmm?  Also you are missing that the rethugs are ramming this through without due process of investigation, when there is NO REASON to do so.  At least no non-political reason that shows the rethugs terrified of not having a sexist, racist, cruel, corrupt and mean sexual assaulter on the SCOTUS bench for 50 years.

ALSO YOU MISSED THAT THIS FELLOW HAS REPEATEDLY LIED UNDER OATH, making him unfit already, even without bringing up sexual assault, that he won't even look at a black person or shake his hand, has said disgusting things about the kids killed at Parkland -- so much else, all PROVING HIM UNFIT.

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1 hour ago, Altherion said:

Fear not, they can always be accused of improper behavior towards children. :)

Seriously mate, super sad when upstanding individuals like Roy Moore can't even cruise the mall any more.

Edit: And seeing as how your so concerned about credibility I assume you support a full investigation? We know this isn't a two person story so Mark Judge clearly needs to testify, in addition to all other corroborating witnesses. This would include Ford's and Kavanaugh's classmates, Ford's therapist, etc. By all means...let's get to the bottom of the situation for everyone involved.

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GOP Bill ‘Covers’ Preexisting Conditions, But May Have Million-Dollar Premium

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/09/gop-preexisting-conditions-bill-may-have-usd1-million-premium.html

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Republicans have spent the entire health-care debate since 2009 making demagogic attacks on every method Obamacare takes to make health care affordable for people who are too poor or sick to pay for their own care. Republicans oppose new taxes, and they oppose regulations that shift costs from the sick to the healthy. That means that they oppose what actually makes it possible for people with preexisting conditions to afford access to modern medicine. They are still desperately trying to hand-wave away the contradiction, and a phony bill to give “access” to insurance with a million-dollar premium is merely the latest step.

 

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35 minutes ago, Altherion said:

Fear not, they can always be accused of improper behavior towards children. :)

More seriously, I don't know how much less credible accusations can be. Consider:

  1. Despite the fact that the alleged event can only have happened more than three decades ago, the allegations only come out after the hearings are finished.
  2. Neither a concrete time nor a concrete place is specified. In fact, there is no physical evidence whatsoever.
  3. The lone alleged witness claims he recalls nothing of the sort and is confident that Kavanaugh would never do this.
  4. The accuser's own description from 2012 is of an event with a different number of witnesses.

It's possible to concoct less plausible allegations by including even more disprovable details, but if the above content-free set is your idea of credible, I would like to offer you a great bargain on a bridge from Brooklyn to Manhattan that I happen to own. Trust me, President Trump would really hate it if somebody like you bought this bridge. :)

What's any of that matter?  The GOP has already demonstrated, as has been pointed out ad nauseum in this thread, that they already will do anything possible to sabotage a Dem SC pick.  The Dems have nothing to lose, and everything to gain from using whatever means necessary to stall this confirmation.  Because no matter what they do they'll be stonewalled next time around.  Whether it's accusations of pedophilia, or a refusal to even consider the nominee, the Republicans will resist kicking and screaming.  

It doesn't matter if the accusations are credible or not.  It's a strange argument for you to make after you've defended Trump's lies as quality propaganda (I remember you describing yourself as a 'connosieur of propaganda').  If you don't believe the accusations against Kavanaugh, you must at least appreciate the pragmatic political consequences, no?

The hardcore right is already convinced all major Dems are pedophiles.  There is a large amount of evidence supporting this.  

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A Conservative Judge Takes Aim at Roe v. Wade in Face of a Shifting Supreme Court

Judge Bobby Shepherd of the Eighth Circuit has upheld, for now, two Missouri laws restricting abortion that are virtually identical to those struck down in 2016 by the Supreme Court.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/09/a-conservative-judge-takes-aim-at-roe-in-face-of-a-shifting-supreme-court/571006/

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Shepherd is trying to “distinguish something that’s indistinguishable,” because he sees a personnel change on the high court, said Heather Shumaker, the senior counsel at the National Women’s Law Center. “That threat is not hypothetical. We see a real road map.”

 

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