Morpheus Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Fez said: Lol, what a shitshow. So he refused to resign and Trump is not willing to fire him just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fionwe1987 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Jane Mayer, who's a national treasure btw, says Ramirez wasn't the first source of her accusation. It was emails between Yale classmates, which had leaked to the Newyorker and other media sources in July. Ramirez was very reluctant to come out. Kavanaugh apprently asked for Mayer and Farrow to speak to a woman he said would support him. That woman says she doesn't believe Ramirez would do something like this for political reasons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, fionwe1987 said: Jane Mayer, who's a national treasure btw, says Ramirez wasn't the first source of her accusation. It was emails between Yale classmates, which had leaked to the Newyorker and other media sources in July. Ramirez was very reluctant to come out. I saw Mayer on Morning Joe this morning. She said they (as in Farrow and Mayer) had to contact Ramirez to initiate conversations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceluby Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I don't understand how it matters if other women say they didn't get raped by this guy. Who gives a shit? Is the bar so low that it's cool as long as they can find a handful of women he didn't rape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 As Kavanaugh's appointment was purely political what the eff did the a$$hole$ expect as a consequence? Especially after the purely political position to not even consider Obama's appointment, a year before he left office? But that's talking rationality and reason, which don't apply to them. Only what they want applies, and law, precedent, honesty and intelligence be damned! Yale women were e-mailing each other since Kavanaugh's name came up for SCOTUS in July. so, now more allegations are emerging about the Georgetown Prep poshy lads' boozin' and rape 'em keep what happens at GP at GP culture. No surprise there. It was their culture and they sure did carry it to university. What does surprise is that no one in the current media seems to recall (or even checked back in the archives of the Times, etc.) what was in the media starting in the early 80's of exactly these sorts of behaviors by these sorts of guy, that included actual murders of their own class of girls by those guys, such as the one in Central Park which dominated the headlines for months, and the one involving a nephew of the Kennedys. Rape and kill just wasn't of the question for the pill and booze overloaded of guys with too much time and money and too little brain. But nobody in the media seems to recall that matrix of of that class provoked much-discussed movies and fiction. This was the era of Bret Ellis, his Less Than Zero (1985), and American Psycho (1991). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnot OG Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, aceluby said: I don't understand how it matters if other women say they didn't get raped by this guy. Who gives a shit? Is the bar so low that it's cool as long as they can find a handful of women he didn't rape? They're not just saying he didn't rape them personally, but that they knew him well and he would never act this way in a million years. I'm not saying it's convincing, but he is in deep shit and they are grasping at whatever they can to save him. One really disgusting thing to come out of this, is there is some sort of network of people at Yale that like to defend these rape bros. Although apparently there was a lot of people speaking up in emails as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceluby Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Martell Spy said: They're not just saying he didn't rape them personally, but that they knew him well and he would never act this way in a million years. I'm not saying it's convincing, but he is in deep shit and they are grasping at whatever they can to save him. One really disgusting thing to come out of this, is there is some sort of network of people at Yale that like to defend these rape bros. Although apparently there was a lot of people speaking up in emails as well. Seems similar to friends of mass shooters. "I don't see how he could have ever done something like that." Yeah, for most of his life he wasn't a murderous asshole, but here we are and it doesn't mater. And it doesn't really matter that we has able to keep is rapey hands to himself 'most' of the time either. It's sickening how this is turning out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 So now Trump will meet with Rosenstein on Thursday. I think if the WH expects him to resign they've miscalculated, expect he'll make Trump fire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnot OG Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Reporters need to start realizing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnot OG Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Trump to meet with Rosenstein on Thursday, WH says: CNN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fionwe1987 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Well that was a nice detour. Back to Kavanaugh, then? Seriously, while I do agree that assuming all these flaps have clear thinking behind them is total BS, I do see the attraction. Just as 3 new stories break about Kvanaugh, we get this. And then, Trump is supposed to meet Rosenstein on Thursday, when Dr. Blasey will be testifying? Either way, this is going to be a hell of a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSumm Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 41 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said: How many times have I said that I found the commercials run by the Republicans on CNN deeply suspicious? All those women talking about what a great guy Kavanaugh is, how smart he is, how thoughtful, open minded, what a great husband and father he is. The Republicans uncovered the stories of his wild youth and campaigned hard to paint him as a great guy. Lies lies lies and more lies. I happen to be on vacation in the US at the moment from the UK, I cannot tell you how fucked up it is to see wall to wall coverage of a reported sexual assault interspersed with polished, well produced commercials about how great the reported assaulter is. Really, really messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Queen Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 We're up to #4. The floodgates have opened. https://twitter.com/robferdman/status/1044259470577201162 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Crazy Cat Lady in Training said: We're up to #4. The floodgates have opened. https://twitter.com/robferdman/status/1044259470577201162 As someone with personal experience with the Montgomery Country PD, I remain skeptical this will become anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fionwe1987 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/09/trump-wanted-to-nuke-rosenstein-to-save-kavanaughs-bacon It appears that this time, Tump actually might have been trying to distract us" Quote According to a source briefed on Trump’s thinking, Trump decided that firing Rosenstein would knock Kavanaugh out of the news, potentially saving his nomination and Republicans’ chances for keeping the Senate. “The strategy was to try and do something really big,” the source said. The leak about Rosenstein’s resignation could have been the result, and it certainly had the desired effect of driving Kavanaugh out of the news for a few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Queen Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, DMC said: As someone with personal experience with the Montgomery Country PD, I remain skeptical this will become anything. I thought they were talking about Montgomery County, PA, in which case nothing would get done either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokisnow Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 police vote 85% of the time for Republicans. in a situation like this that involves their political beliefs conflicting with carrying out their duties, political beliefs win out and police are going to do nothing, most of time, most everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, Crazy Cat Lady in Training said: I thought they were talking about Montgomery County, PA, in which case nothing would get done either. Nah, the police chief is mentioned in the thread - J. Thomas Manger - he's Maryland's. Makes more sense, it's right outside DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Queen Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, DMC said: Nah, the police chief is mentioned in the thread - J. Thomas Manger - he's Maryland's. Makes more sense, it's right outside DC. I know. I heard "Montgomery County" which is right outside Philadelphia and my brain made that connection. We have a statute of limitations anyway. That's why none of the people abused by the priests here will ever get justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.