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1 hour ago, Prince of the North said:

From Dallasnews.com.  I wonder what Ramsey's thoughts are on Cole Beasley?:P

he not wrong tho

looking at the totality of his professional career, that's exactly how I would articulate how I feel about dak prescott haha

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11 hours ago, Nictarion said:

Lol Tomlin is any better? It’s like the inmates running the asylum over there. Steelers are the most penalized team in the league, and your star players are all me first divas that don’t care about the team. If he had any control at all maybe they could beat the Pats once in a while and actually be contenders. 

Not disagreeing with that. No control over here. Either way, this has gotten off topic. Just think that Burfict once again made a bad hit. 

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2 hours ago, l2 0 5 5 said:

Not disagreeing with that. No control over here. Either way, this has gotten off topic. Just think that Burfict once again made a bad hit. 

Fair enough. Sounds like no suspension though, so the league obviously doesn’t think it was that bad. They never miss a chance to come down hard on him. 

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Rodgers dragged them to another victory, but they barely squeaked a home victory against a weak 49ers (Garopplo injured) just like they squeaked past Chicago at home in the opening game, when Trubiskey couldn’t throw for nuts.  And they lost to a poor Lions and an indifferent Redskins.

Perhaps they’ll get better but I doubt GB are scaring many opponents so far. 

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27 minutes ago, Iskaral Pust said:

Rodgers dragged them to another victory, but they barely squeaked a home victory against a weak 49ers (Garopplo injured) just like they squeaked past Chicago at home in the opening game, when Trubiskey couldn’t throw for nuts.  And they lost to a poor Lions and an indifferent Redskins.

Perhaps they’ll get better but I doubt GB are scaring many opponents so far. 

i was going to say;  is Green Bay even happy tonight?  

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Just posted this in one of the FF threads, but I think it bears repeating here - the scoring jump this year seems fucking bonkers.

 

I think offenses are just putting up more points this year, yeah, and particularly, quarterbacks are doing well, and we play in 2-QB, 6-pt-passing-TD leagues. There have been multiple weeks this year where I've had 2 30+ point QBs (I'm in two Westeros 2QB leagues), which used to be a huge deal. 

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Went and checked it at Pro Football Reference, and damn, yeah, scoring is way up. 

 

          Scoring
Rk Year Tms RshTD RecTD PR TD KR TD FblTD IntTD OthTD AllTD 2PM 2PA XPM XPA FGM FGA Sfty Pts
1 2018 32 0.78 1.76 0.02 0.01 0.05 0.08 0.01 2.71 0.17 0.29 2.29 2.41 1.72 2.05 0.01 24.1
2 2017 32 0.74 1.45 0.02 0.01 0.08 0.08 0.01 2.39 0.07 0.16 2.08 2.21 1.69 2.01 0.03 21.7
3 2016 32 0.87 1.54 0.02 0.01 0.04 0.07 0.01 2.56 0.10 0.21 2.19 2.33 1.66 1.97 0.04 22.7
4 2015 32 0.71 1.64 0.03 0.01 0.06 0.10 0.01 2.56 0.09 0.18 2.24 2.38 1.63 1.93 0.03 22.8
5 2014 32 0.74 1.58 0.03 0.01 0.05 0.09 0.02 2.52 0.05 0.11 2.39 2.40 1.62 1.93 0.04 22.6
6 2013 32 0.80 1.57 0.03 0.01 0.06 0.13 0.02 2.62 0.07 0.13 2.46 2.47 1.69 1.95 0.04 23.4
7 2012 32 0.78 1.48 0.04 0.03 0.05 0.14 0.02 2.54 0.06 0.11 2.40 2.41 1.66 1.98 0.03 22.8
8 2011 32 0.78 1.46 0.04 0.02 0.06 0.10 0.01 2.47 0.05 0.10 2.34 2.36 1.64 1.97 0.04 22.2
9 2010 32 0.78 1.47 0.03 0.04 0.04 0.11 0.01 2.48 0.05 0.10 2.35 2.37 1.55 1.88 0.03 22.0
10 2009 32 0.84 1.39 0.02 0.04 0.05 0.09 0.01 2.44 0.05 0.12 2.28 2.31 1.48 1.82 0.03 21.5
11 2008 32 0.93 1.26 0.03 0.03 0.06 0.10 0.02 2.43 0.05 0.13 2.29 2.30 1.65 1.95 0.04 22.0
12 2007 32 0.75 1.41 0.03 0.05 0.07 0.10 0.01 2.42 0.06 0.11 2.28 2.30 1.55 1.88 0.04 21.7
13 2006 32 0.83 1.27 0.03 0.02 0.06 0.10 0.01 2.32 0.04 0.07 2.20 2.22 1.50 1.84 0.02 20.7
14 2005 32 0.84 1.26 0.02 0.02 0.04 0.09 0.01 2.28 0.05 0.09 2.15 2.18 1.53 1.89 0.02 20.6
15 2004 32 0.81 1.43 0.02 0.03 0.07 0.10 0.01 2.47 0.07 0.14 2.30 2.32 1.37 1.70 0.03 21.5
16 2003 32 0.83 1.28 0.04 0.03 0.05 0.11 0.01 2.35 0.06 0.12 2.17 2.20 1.48 1.86 0.04 20.8
17 2002 32 0.90 1.36 0.04 0.03 0.05 0.09 0.01 2.48 0.09 0.16 2.24 2.28 1.44 1.86 0.02 21.7
18 2001 31 0.74 1.28 0.02 0.02 0.07 0.12 0.01 2.26 0.08 0.17 2.03 2.07 1.48 1.93 0.02 20.2
19 2000 31 0.83 1.28 0.03 0.03 0.04 0.10 0.01 2.32 0.07 0.15 2.12 2.14 1.47 1.85 0.03 20.7
20 1999 31 0.73 1.34 0.03 0.03 0.07 0.12 0.01 2.33 0.06 0.16 2.12 2.14 1.51 1.94 0.05 20.8

 

So the average over the last 20 seasons (INCLUDING this year) is 21.825 points per game per team. The standard deviation is 1.03 (about 4.7%); this year's average is 24.1 points per game per team, so we're 2.275 points per game per team above average (about 10.4%). That's over 2.2 standard deviations out, which is crazy.

ETA: Also of note - kick return and punt return points are down; the increase is all in the passing offense, which again, is going to show up even harder in our leagues since we have 6pt passing TDs.

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Can someone explain to me why that first touchdown didn’t count as a pass? Because I had Rodgers and lost by 3 in C League…..

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5 minutes ago, SpaceForce Tywin et al. said:

Can someone explain to me why that first touchdown didn’t count as a pass? Because I had Rodgers and lost by 3 in C League…..

Because you touch yourself at night.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Jace, Basilissa said:

Because you touch yourself at night.

 

 

Will you quit peeking out of the closet and go back in your cage….

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Lol, what a great stat. Peterman has thrown interceptions on 11% of his passes. For Brady’s interception percentage to be the same, he would need to throw a thousand straight picks.

That’s jarring.

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6 minutes ago, Jace, Basilissa said:

Can't cage what you can't see.

I’m on your scent!  

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She stands so still she’s invisible...

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1 hour ago, SpaceForce Tywin et al. said:

Can someone explain to me why that first touchdown didn’t count as a pass? Because I had Rodgers and lost by 3 in C League…..

Backwards pass. Counts as a rushing TD.

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@BLU-RAY we’re definitely seeing the effect of changes in rules and officiating to facilitate the passing game.  QB stats will be distorted compared to history.  The league will be happy with a more attacking game and more points on the board to keep fans excited (ratings were declining). 

Bill Barnwell wrote a good piece on ESPN recently about how NFL offenses are looking more like college offenses, and the route to success now is to draft a good, cheap, young QB to sling the ball to a receiving corps that’s now much better protected.  Even the stodgy defense-led football of the Bears now includes an Andy Reid-type offense from Nagy. 

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@Iskaral Pust Oh, no question - that's been going on since, what, 2006 or so. I was just surprised at the extent of the jump, this would be a pretty crazy outlier if it holds up (I also kind of imagine that points per game declines a little bit as the season progresses due to cold and injury, so maybe it'll come back to earth?)

Like, the new roughing the passer guidelines excepted, most of the passing-offense-friendly rules have been in place for a little while - and the offensive numbers have been trending this way alongside them. But two sigmas out!? I think you're correct that, as Barnwell and Kevin Clark (and probably a bunch of other folks) have written, the integration of more attacking, Air Raid-style offenses has hit sort of an inflection point this year - you have the Colts running some of that stuff thanks to Frank Reich, the Bears and Chiefs as you've pointed out; a new season of the Rams; etc. It's exciting.

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19 minutes ago, Mexal said:

Backwards pass. Counts as a rushing TD.

It was an outside screen pass at the hash. In what world is that a rush while jet sweeps count as a pass when the QB “throws” the ball less than a foot?

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5 minutes ago, SpaceForce Tywin et al. said:

It was an outside screen pass at the hash. In what world is that a rush while jet sweeps count as a pass when the QB “throws” the ball less than a foot?

I hear you man. But that's the way it's scored. If it goes backwards, it's not a pass, if it goes forward, it is a pass. 

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