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22 minutes ago, Mexal said:

I hear you man. But that's the way it's scored. If it goes backwards, it's not a pass, if it goes forward, it is a pass. 

Arg!!!!

On a more serious note, what the hell was that awful dance that Cousins and other guys around the league were doing? You have to be maximum confident to do that crud in public.

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13 hours ago, Iskaral Pust said:

Rodgers dragged them to another victory, but they barely squeaked a home victory against a weak 49ers (Garopplo injured) just like they squeaked past Chicago at home in the opening game, when Trubiskey couldn’t throw for nuts.  And they lost to a poor Lions and an indifferent Redskins.

Perhaps they’ll get better but I doubt GB are scaring many opponents so far. 

This is how the Packers have played during the last two seasons they’ve made the playoffs. The defense is so bad that and the last minute offense is so good that no victory or loss is guaranteed, regardless of match up. The last time we made the playoffs playing like this, we made it to the NFC Championship game. We lost horrifically, but still, that’s a pretty successful playoff run.

Of course teams are scared of the Packers. Rodgers can manufacture late game comebacks with less time on the clock than any other QB in the league. And despite the defense playing shit, they somehow manage to get stops at these key moments pretty consistently, all things considered.

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3 hours ago, Triskjavikson said:

That's the dead arm dance.  And since Thielen is on the best receptions pace in history he's allowed to introduce stuff like that.  

Speaking of Thielen, I read an article on The Ringer where they actually wrote that he wasn't as physically impressive or athletic as guys like Antonio Brown and DeAndre Hopkins.  It took me about ten seconds to look up the numbers and confirm what I already knew...that Thielen is in fact more physically impressive and more athletic than either of those guys.  He's taller, but ran a faster forty time than either.  He's also generally got better workout metrics across the board.

Just ridiculous that professional writers can't look this shit up.

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Adam Theilen is not as physically impressive of athletic as DeAndre Hopkins or Antonio Brown. Forget numbers, use your eyeballs. Pick literally any play of any of them, and you should notice the differences before the ball is snapped.

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4 minutes ago, Jace, Basilissa said:

Adam Theilen is not as physically impressive of athletic as DeAndre Hopkins or Antonio Brown. Forget numbers, use your eyeballs. Pick literally any play of any of them, and you should notice the differences before the ball is snapped.

Eh...I consider both of those guys more technicians than athletic specimens.  Not that they're not athletic, but they're nowhere near Julio Jones or Odell Beckham as athletes.  Plus, Hopkins basically pushes off on every catch to create separation.  :lol:

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33 minutes ago, briantw said:

Eh...I consider both of those guys more technicians than athletic specimens.  Not that they're not athletic, but they're nowhere near Julio Jones or Odell Beckham as athletes.  Plus, Hopkins basically pushes off on every catch to create separation.  :lol:

Dude. Speed isn't the be all end all of athleticism. And while Julio and ODBj are on another plane of existence, Theilen is not. He's got good traits, that's good. I have never seen Adam Theilen break the laws of physics on the sideline so often it's routine.

C'mon, man! A guy can be the best WR in the league a given season without making shit up about his abilities. Reggie Wayne was a tier-1 elite WR for a long time. Nobody felt the urge to pretend he was on the level with Randy Moss or T.O.

6 minutes ago, Triskjavikson said:

Plus I believe Buffalo is bringing Derek Anderson in because of their Peterman problems.  But no Kaepernick.  

I'd give Derek Anderson the slightest of passes, because he's a good backup. But yeah, the fact that they even went into the season with Peterman is a dead giveaway.

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28 minutes ago, Jace, Basilissa said:

C'mon, man! A guy can be the best WR in the league a given season without making shit up about his abilities. Reggie Wayne was a tier-1 elite WR for a long time. Nobody felt the urge to pretend he was on the level with Randy Moss or T.O.

I'm not pretending he's on their level.  Hell, I even said he's nowhere near Beckham or Julio as an athlete.

I'm also not making anything up about his abilities.  I'm looking at metrics and comparing them between athletes.  I never said he was a better WR than Brown (who is one of the best ever) or Hopkins (who has a chance to be one of the best ever), just that he is at the very least comparable as an athlete.  Thielen basically has no chance to ever be as good a player as either of those two, because he got started so late, but that's not what we're talking about here.

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The GOAT wasn't a physical specimen either, he simply out worked, out hustled and out studied everyone else in existence. GOAT is the status, Jerry Rice is the name.

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13 minutes ago, Nictarion said:

Speaking of Julio, he still hasn’t caught a TD yet this season. Crazy. 

That's the weird thing about him. So of course I always manage to draft him in multiple leagues. 

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The Peterman might be the worse QB in NFL history. He might be the worst to ever play in the modern league. He makes The Bag Boy look like a stud. 

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39 minutes ago, SpaceForce Tywin et al. said:

The Peterman might be the worse QB in NFL history. He might be the worst to ever play in the modern league. He makes The Bag Boy look like a stud. 

You're not kidding:

 

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ESPN’s Dianna Russini reported that Bills players may revolt against the coaching staff if the team starts Nathan Peterman again—perhaps the most reasonable locker room issue in the history of locker room issues after Peterman further cemented his interception-laden reputation on Sunday.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Triskjavikson said:

The stats I'm seeing about him are hilarious. The Bills actually have a good defense. They're 7th in DVOA. As a team, they are last in total DVOA. 

Funnier stat: Arizona has the second worst offensive DVOA at -29. Cleveland is the third worst at -22. Buffalo is -51.8. I don't have access to the advanced analytics sites, but someone who does can cite some insane numbers. 

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LeSean McCoy for Nick Foles and a pick might be the most logical trade I've ever thought of.  Allen is CLEARLY not ready to play, even after he recuperates.

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10 minutes ago, Bronn Stone said:

LeSean McCoy for Nick Foles and a pick might be the most logical trade I've ever thought of.  Allen is CLEARLY not ready to play, even after he recuperates.

But why would you bother trading for a QB? Again, many backups far better than Peterman are out there sitting around. You don't need Foles, who didn't look great anyway, and you sure as hell don't need to trade a good player for him. 
 

Again, Peterman remains the best possible example of collusion against Kap. 

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1 minute ago, Kalbear said:

But why would you bother trading for a QB? Again, many backups far better than Peterman are out there sitting around. You don't need Foles, who didn't look great anyway, and you sure as hell don't need to trade a good player for him. 
 

Again, Peterman remains the best possible example of collusion against Kap. 

It sounds like the BUF locker room is on the verge of revolt.  This calms things down and Foles gives you someone from whom Allen can learn.  Foles KNOWS how to play the game, he's just not so good at doing it (He seems like a future QB coach/OC down the road).  You'd be trading McCoy mostly for the pick - and the Eagles have been inquiring.  McCoy is of little use to Buffalo - they won't be good while he is still good.

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Another locker room that I have to wonder about is the Raiders.  There were signs that they were pissed or at least pretty shocked about the Mack trade, and now it looks like Carr is regressing which is to be panic-inducing if you're a Raider fan since you really thought you had a franchise guy and maybe a big time franchise guy.

It is still relatively early, and the Mack trade suggested they weren't too invested in this year, but Gruden is off to a terrible start.  If he's now a bad coach they really screwed themselves with how much they went all in with him.  

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