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Why not just drink the beer instead of water while lifting? Kill two birds with one stone plus you get a better buzz. Call it the Brett Kavanaugh method of weight training:

 

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15 hours ago, Jo498 said:

Regardless of this or weight loss, you should not drink 3 beers every day. This is at least on the threshold of addiction. But you probably knew this already.

This reminds me of the scene in Half-Baked where someone goes to a 12 step meeting and says I'm here for marijuana and gets booed out of there.

"You in here for some three beers?  Man, this is some bullshit!"

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6 hours ago, aceluby said:

If you're plateauing, you may consider taking a few days to a week off your diet and then going back on as sort of a 'reset'.  With such a low calorie count your body may be putting itself in a constant state of starvation.

Thank you for the advice. As far as i know I have not hit the dreaded plateau yet. I've read of it and I'm definitely looking out for it. My plan was if I hit is to either cut the beer down or start walking. I did not know about the reset though, so that is very valuable advice. 

I should mention, I have a GI disease. It is under treatment and I'm fairly healthy, but it is quite possible that I'm getting some kind of appetite advantage here over a person without a disease. That is also why I'm fairly new to the weight loss thing. I got the disease at 23 years old, and did not have weight issues until 38. Any time I gained weight, the disease tended to remove it without me trying much.  I mainly gained weight by becoming a drinker. 

I do get a little hungry about 5 to 6 hours after eating my breakfast, which is 330 cals of biscuits. I am generally able to ignore this and it goes away. I get extremely ravenous if I'm late eating my dinner though. 

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I’ve gone down to 1600 calories per day - finding it surprisingly easy to do whilst eating good, healthy food. Drinking lots of water. Jogging and walking a lot and doing exersices at home and I’ve lost half a stone in a week. Damn. I’ve been super unhealthy for too long and not enjoying all the food I’m eating and hating sitting in doors doing nothing and right now I’m feeling really great. I know I won’t lose this much every week - I’m hoping for 1-2 pounds each week but I’ve tried a few times to do something like this and never has it felt as good and natural as this time. I expect it to start getting really tough at some point but right now I’m having an excellent week. 

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Well done! 4km is not nothing, and honestly getting to the stage you can jog those first few is the hardest bit in my experience*. From there you can train yourself to anything. 

Honestly many days I struggle and procrastinate just getting out the door. It's half the battle.

*until the 30km wall but that's a whole different thing.

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I am just sooo tired of my diet and fail miserably to stay at 2400 kcal/day. This had made me hit a plateau some 3 kg short of my goal. I've lost just 4 kg since Christmas, due to my 0.5 kg/week loss plan being offset all the time by days or even weeks of not following my diet.  When I do keep to my calorie goal carefully I've found it works very reliably: down 0.5 kg per week.

Does anyone have any tips on how to regain the inspiration to reach my goal? What worked for you?

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On 4/7/2019 at 7:56 PM, Theda Baratheon said:

Okay this will seem like nothing to people who are genuinely fit LOL but just worked a 8 hour shift and then went for a 2.5 mile (4km) jog. feeling so proud of myself right now. I’m beaming 

Well done! Homestly any exercise at all after an 8 hour shift on your feet is an achievement, a shift in retail can be surprisingly draining. Im glad your diet and change of lifestyle is still going well

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14 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said:

Well done! Homestly any exercise at all after an 8 hour shift on your feet is an achievement, a shift in retail can be surprisingly draining. Im glad your diet and change of lifestyle is still going well

Thanks! I really enjoyed it because it’s a lovely route next to a river and then through some woods. I know the place well from walking there a lot. So easy to do in the early evening so I’m going to try to commit to at least 3 days a week doing this. If I can do it after an 8 hour shift then I can do it any day lol. I’m feeling so good lately. 

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On 4/5/2019 at 3:00 AM, Martell Spy said:

I'm basically trying to lose weight, while still having the ability to drink some beer. It looks like I can still lose weight and drink 3 beers a day, if I maintain at 1050 calorie food diet. Not sure if I can drink 4 beers a day yet and still lose. I'm pretty happy though with my results from setting my food cals this low. I'm 42 years old and 194 pounds. Just lost about 25 pounds in the last few months.

This is with a sedentary lifestyle.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around having 1050 calories a day and I don't think there's a scenario (other than a massive health problem) I could stick with that. Adding beers on top of those calories would somehow make it even worse.

Last time I checked my BMR (4-5 years ago), it was 1800-1900 calories a day. Since then I've gained at least 5-6kgs of muscle so I'd imagine it's even higher now. Eating barely over half of that would just not do the trick.

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6 hours ago, baxus said:

I'm still trying to wrap my head around having 1050 calories a day and I don't think there's a scenario (other than a massive health problem) I could stick with that. Adding beers on top of those calories would somehow make it even worse.

Last time I checked my BMR (4-5 years ago), it was 1800-1900 calories a day. Since then I've gained at least 5-6kgs of muscle so I'd imagine it's even higher now. Eating barely over half of that would just not do the trick.

Yeah, it may indeed have turned out to be too low. I think I started the diet in late January. I seemed mostly fine, with minor hunger the mornings before lunch, but in just the last few days I got major hunger pains and sometimes even headache just before lunch. I'm adding a cheese slice to my breakfast, so I'm now at around 1100 food cals plus beers. The cheese seems to have helped so far and it's the pre-lunch period where I have the most problems. We'll see how this goes, I may have to reduce the beers down to 2 a day.

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That still sounds very low to me.

You seem to really like your beer if you're willing to go through that.* :D 

*Nothing wrong with that.

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On 4/8/2019 at 10:12 PM, Erik of Hazelfield said:

I am just sooo tired of my diet and fail miserably to stay at 2400 kcal/day. This had made me hit a plateau some 3 kg short of my goal. I've lost just 4 kg since Christmas, due to my 0.5 kg/week loss plan being offset all the time by days or even weeks of not following my diet.  When I do keep to my calorie goal carefully I've found it works very reliably: down 0.5 kg per week.

Does anyone have any tips on how to regain the inspiration to reach my goal? What worked for you?

Its really hard to stay on track if you don't have any special reason to lose the weight, or you could potentially put it off for a while. I do best if there is an event I need to plan for, wedding, beach holiday etc. 

What works really well for me is to keep a diary and blog your progress in some way, so that if you fail you have lots of people around you to support / have a go at you. You need some added pressure and reason to force yourself outside of your own motivations. 

Outside of that, measuring your progress all the time is useful. Weigh in every day and take an average over the week, measure yourself once a week too. It keeps your head in the space where you rememeber that you are trying to do something. 

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15 hours ago, Martell Spy said:

Yeah, it may indeed have turned out to be too low. 

It is too low. I worry it may cause health issues. At such low calories (meaningful ones, the beer calories are not very useful) I don't see how you can meet basic nutrition demands. Unless those 1000-1100 cals are supremely well thought out and combined with supplements but if you are eating biscuits for breakfast I suspect that is not the case. 

I don't mean to come across as preachy but what you are doing now doesn't sound real good. Maybe you can see a nutritionist? They can help you come up with a better compromise diet considering your weight loss goals and sedentary lifestyle. If you get a good one they'll be sensitive to your lifestyle constraints and propose something that will work for you.  

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I shaved a minute off my 2.5 mile run already so I’m chuffed about that. And this is on a day when I really DIDNT want to go and I FORCED myself too and I still ran a lot better. I had a laughing fit in the car on the drive back (I drive to some woods to do my run) and I ate a subway today and it felt awful. And I bought a cake yesterday and I couldn’t eat it - just didn’t want it. Eating healthy and feeling much better for it. Now I’ve lost 10 pounds in total (in 1.5 weeks)

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23 hours ago, Martell Spy said:

Yeah, it may indeed have turned out to be too low. I think I started the diet in late January. I seemed mostly fine, with minor hunger the mornings before lunch, but in just the last few days I got major hunger pains and sometimes even headache just before lunch. I'm adding a cheese slice to my breakfast, so I'm now at around 1100 food cals plus beers. The cheese seems to have helped so far and it's the pre-lunch period where I have the most problems. We'll see how this goes, I may have to reduce the beers down to 2 a day.

You disgust me!

12 hours ago, baxus said:

That still sounds very low to me.

You seem to really like your beer if you're willing to go through that.* :D 

*Nothing wrong with that.

There is no like, only varying levels of love. 

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16 minutes ago, Conflicting Thought said:

Do any of you know or use apps that messures calorie intake? 

I use MyFitnessPal to count calories and track exercise 

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