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I've only seen the premier so far and then got caught up on the shorts. The scheduling is punishing show for me. I used to watch it Tuesday evening after work but now it's out on a Friday so I'm less likely to be sitting in watching TV. That and there's a ton of other shows competing and rugby

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13 hours ago, DaveSumm said:

Still a bit all over the place this show isn’t it? I kinda like it, but there’s something so desperate about it ... “hey, you want long haired Klingons? Speaking English? You got it! And more Star Trek type plots, sure ... here’s a ‘trapped in a sphere trying to kill us’, here’s a ‘prime directive’ episode ... but you still want pace! And action, and flashing stuff! Have it all!”

I am more than happy for them to course correct, because there was so much that needed correcting from the first season.  

Personally I'd like Discovery to explode and for there to just be a whole new crew, as outside of Saru I kind of hate everyone.

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7 minutes ago, Heartofice said:

I am more than happy for them to course correct, because there was so much that needed correcting from the first season.  

Personally I'd like Discovery to explode and for there to just be a whole new crew, as outside of Saru I kind of hate everyone.

If they insist on leaning on enterprise crew they should probably consider just making another show using that ship.

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The first season was a mess but it was a lot more ambitious than this season. This season has been okay in trying to pull the nostalgia strings, and doing some very "Trek-y" one-offs, but the fact that it's basically mediocre while also being much less ambitious feels like this thing was simply ill-starred from the get-go. 

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Anyone else see this vid yet? It's a great little take on the state of Star Trek today and why it doesn't look and feel like the Trek we know and love.

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3 hours ago, King Roberts beard said:

I'd be much more interested in just having a series based on Pikes Enterprise tenure at this point.

It's probably a spin off they have planned given their obsession with making the cbs channel the star trek channel 

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1 hour ago, red snow said:

It's probably a spin off they have planned given their obsession with making the cbs channel the star trek channel 

More than possible. Especially as Number 1 is a pretty big name as well.

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Quite enjoyed ep 4. I guess this creature that's attached to Tilly is the reason they'll give for the mycelial network being too dangerous to use in the future shows (if it's even connected to TNG, DS9, VOY etc).

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I want to like this show more than I actually like it, sadly. It still feels like set-up and not very interesting in the present, but there's potential for interesting things, so I'm just waiting it out.

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Yep Episode 4 was a bore. 

How many Star Trek episodes usually involve some large floating 'organism / planet' that is desperately trying to communicate with the crew? It just seems like such an old trope. 

Honestly I don't know what it is I want this show to do now. I'm going back to the earlier comment that the best thing they can do is let everyone except Saru and Pike die and start again.

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Again, theoretically it was interesting but I wasn't really invested. Glad Culber is back, so tech-babble hand wave away, I don't care.

Also the huge hate boner some people have for this show is ridiculous. As the show starts we see Burnham running down the corridor - two separate podcasts mentioned how ridiculous she looks running (they also call her Mikey because, I guess it's demeaning and all the cool kids are doing it?. I saw her running and thought she had good form (cause she did - you pump those arms girl). I swear I don't seek them out, but youtube throws them at me and I watch everything else so think, well, sure - I'll see what they have to say. Then I remember why they suck. 

It's ok to hate this show, I'd just really rather it be for actual reasons and not because of it being not true Trek enough or too SJW. If you're describing with venom the way a character runs, perhaps you've crossed a line too far.

Edited by Gertrude

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I have to say I disagree with you about Culber - it was looking like a good emotional ending to the episode, with Stamets getting closure and learning to move on, and then the techno-babble hand wave happened.

I did like Pike's callout on Ash's Section 31 comm-badge. They knew none of the viewers would realise we're not at that point in the timeline yet.

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I like Culber in that I like Stamets and didn't want him to leave or (more likely) stick around and grieve. Culber himself is meh because we haven't really spent time with him, but I didn't like what his absence was doing to Stamets. I have to agree that in the moment, realizing he couldn't follow was good and made sense. It feels like cheating to have both that moment and also figure out a way to get him back. That and this show is kind of off the rails and their course correction is pretty rough. I just want it to get to a point where the storytelling is coherent and not splashed all over the place  so whatever it takes to get there, fine, just do it soon. I also feel like they are seeding the spin offs too hard to the show's detriment - Sect 31 and Enterprise/Pike, cause that's what the Number One cameo felt like to me.

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I’m not sure if my expectations of television have changed and Star Trek was always like this, or whether this was the most ‘Doctor Who’ level of explanation we’ve ever seen. So, one of Culber’s tears dropped onto Stamets, who was ‘connected’ to the mycelial network at the time, which meant that his ‘energy’ was transferred there, and he took on some kind of mycelial form, and then May used that form to rig a mycelial transporter to deliver a flesh and blood Culber back to the regular universe. I mean .... where to start.

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