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3 hours ago, Silver Bullet 1985 said:

I won't be able to answer for any other person who believe this but I can give you my own reasons.  I suspect the other believers each have their own.  It makes more sense than that other bullshit theory of Rhaegar being the father.  So yeah, Mance being Jon's father makes more sense to me.  It fits with the tale of Bael the Bard.  Jon and Mance are cast from the same mold.  They both have trouble following the rules.  They both betrayed the watch and broke their oaths.   The Targaryens are my favorite house and I don't want Jon to be a part of this house.  To sum up, Mance is the more likely father.

Where, when and how do you think Jon was conceived?

I've read the theory that the "wandering crow" who was present at the Tourney of Harrenhal was actually Mance and some of those people even suggested that it was he who was the Knight of the Laughing Tree (at Lyanna's request). What do you think of it?

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On 11/10/2018 at 3:47 PM, The Transporter said:

Pick the parents from among the given choices.  Pick who you think the parent is and not who you want the parent to be.

The Fathers

1.   Aegon

a)  Rhaegar Targaryen

 

 

2.   Daenerys

a)  Aerys II

 

 

3.  Tyrion

a)  Tywin Lannister

 

4.  Jon

 

c)  Eddard Stark

 

5.   Darkstar

 

c)  Aerys II

 

The Mothers

1.   Aegon

a)  Elia Martell

 

2.   Daenerys

a)  Rhaella Targaryen

 

3.   Tyrion

a)  Joanna Lannister

 

4.   Jon

 

b)  Ashara Dayne

 

 

 

Aegon doesn't have to be a Blackfyre for them to support him.  It may even be the case that the Golden Company is being hoodwinked into thinking he is.  I feel like they would support anybody who can take them to their promised land whether Blackfyre or Targaryen.  It gets old living like a sellsword.  

 

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On 11/10/2018 at 3:47 PM, The Transporter said:

Pick the parents from among the given choices.  Pick who you think the parent is and not who you want the parent to be.

The Fathers

1.   Aegon

a)  Rhaegar Targaryen

b)  Jon Connington

c)  Ilyrio Mopatis

d)  An unknown man

 

2.   Daenerys

a)  Aerys II

b)  Bonifer Hasty  (Ah what an interesting possibility)

c)  Rhaegar Targaryen

d)  An unknown man

 

3.  Tyrion

a)  Tywin Lannister

b)  Aerys II

c)  An unknown man

 

4.  Jon

a)  Mance Rayder

b)  Rhaegar Targaryen

c)  Eddard Stark

d)  Brandon Stark

e)  Howland Reed

 

5.   Darkstar

a)  Doran Martell

b)  Oberyn Martell

c)  Aerys II  (Sure the guy got around in his youth but his sperm count was running low)

d)  An unknown Dayne  (Then he wouldn't be the most dangerous man in Dorne)

 

The Mothers

1.   Aegon

a)  Elia Martell

b)  Serra

c)  Ashara Dayne

d)  Lyanna Stark

e)  Septa Lemore

2.   Daenerys

a)  Rhaella Targaryen

b)  Lyanna Stark

c)  Ashara Dayne

d)  An unknown woman

3.   Tyrion

a)  Joanna Lannister

c)  Rhaella Targaryen

d)  Genna Lannister

e)  An unknown woman

4.   Jon

a)  Lyanna Stark

b)  Ashara Dayne  (me thinks whoever is the child of this woman gets the Dayne sword)

c)  Wylla the fisherwoman

d)  Wylla the maid

 

 

Very well.  My answers are in color and in bold.  

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23 hours ago, Vaedys Targaryen said:

Where, when and how do you think Jon was conceived?

I've read the theory that the "wandering crow" who was present at the Tourney of Harrenhal was actually Mance and some of those people even suggested that it was he who was the Knight of the Laughing Tree (at Lyanna's request). What do you think of it?

He was duty bound at the Wall.  She was at Winterfell.  It would be difficult to find the chance to do it.   For most people but not for Mance Rayder.  This is a man who can get into anything.  It could have happened during his unofficial vacations from his duties.  He was a ranger.  Whose to say he went south instead of north during many of those missions.  He could prearrange a meeting with Lyanna.  She rode out in one of her equestrian adventures and met up with Mance.  I think it happened in Winterfell though.  Mance was in one of his bard disguises echoing Bael and they did the nasty.  

Lyanna is a lot like her niece.  I'm referring to Arya.  Do you picture Arya tearing up just because a handsome prince is singing?  No.  I don't.  Unless the song he sang already had some deep sentimental value to her.  Rhaegar sang one of Mance Rayder's songs.  She heard the same song before.  

I am not convinced with the knight of the laughing tree theory.  Mance is a man of average size.  I am going to say about 5'10".  The unknown knight was short and slim.  

You might want to search the forums.  One of our members posted a theory on this matter.  It was primarily about the tower of joy but it took on a life of its own and morphed into Harrenhal.

On a sad note, I am saddened to report that Stan Lee has passed away.

Edited by Silver Bullet 1985

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On 11/10/2018 at 3:47 PM, The Transporter said:

Pick the parents from among the given choices.  Pick who you think the parent is and not who you want the parent to be.

The Fathers

1.   Aegon

Rhaegar Targaryen

 

 

2.   Daenerys

Aerys II

 

 

3.  Tyrion

Aerys II

 

4.  Jon

Brandon Stark

 

5.   Darkstar

Aerys II

 

The Mothers

1.   Aegon

Elia Martell

 

2.   Daenerys

Rhaella Targaryen

 

3.   Tyrion

Joanna Lannister

 

4.   Jon

Lyanna Stark

 

 

 

 

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Aegon came from Illyrio and Serra.

Daenerys is the daughter of Aerys and Rhaella.

Tyrion is the son of Tywin and Joanna.

Jon is the son of Eddard and Ashara.

Darkstar is the son of Aerys and unknown lady of house Dayne.

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On 11/10/2018 at 3:47 PM, The Transporter said:

Pick the parents from among the given choices.  Pick who you think the parent is and not who you want the parent to be.

The Fathers

1.   Aegon

a)  Rhaegar Targaryen

 

 

2.   Daenerys

a)  Aerys II

 

 

3.  Tyrion

a)  

b)  Aerys II

c)  

 

4.  Jon

a)  

b)  

c)  Eddard Stark

d)  

e)  

 

5.   Darkstar

a) 

c)  Aerys II

d)  

 

The Mothers

1.   Aegon

a)  Elia Martell

 

2.   Daenerys

a)  Rhaella Targaryen

 

3.   Tyrion

a)  Joanna Lannister

c) 

e)  

4.   Jon

a)  

b)  Ashara Dayne

c) 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Corvo the Crow said:

Nice thread, this is. But doesn't it belong to the forum games?

What is the point of a poll if you cannot ask the fans?  And is one required to assume that the posters in "Forum Games" are as representative of the fans as those found here?      

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Fathers

Aegon (Rhaegar)

Daenerys (Aerys)

Tyrion (Tywin)

Jon (Brandon)

Gerold (Aerys)

Mothers

Aegon (Ellia)

Daenerys (Rhaella)

Tyrion (Joanna)

Jon (Lyanna)

Gerold (?)

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On 11/23/2018 at 7:11 AM, Platypus Rex said:

What is the point of a poll if you cannot ask the fans?  And is one required to assume that the posters in "Forum Games" are as representative of the fans as those found here?      

I don't go to that section but the nature of the category would bias the people over there towards a younger group.

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On 11/10/2018 at 10:47 PM, The Transporter said:

The Fathers

1.   Aegon

a)  Rhaegar Targaryen

b)  Jon Connington

c)  Ilyrio Mopatis

d)  An unknown man

 

2.   Daenerys

a)  Aerys II

b)  Bonifer Hasty

c)  Rhaegar Targaryen

d)  An unknown man

 

3.  Tyrion

a)  Tywin Lannister

b)  Aerys II

c)  An unknown man

 

4.  Jon

a)  Mance Rayder

b)  Rhaegar Targaryen

c)  Eddard Stark

d)  Brandon Stark

e)  Howland Reed

 

5.   Darkstar

a)  Doran Martell

b)  Oberyn Martell

c)  Aerys II

d)  An unknown Dayne

 

The Mothers

1.   Aegon

a)  Elia Martell

b)  Serra

c)  Ashara Dayne

d)  Lyanna Stark

e)  Septa Lemore

2.   Daenerys

a)  Rhaella Targaryen

b)  Lyanna Stark

c)  Ashara Dayne

d)  An unknown woman

3.   Tyrion

a)  Joanna Lannister

c)  Rhaella Targaryen

d)  Genna Lannister

e)  An unknown woman

4.   Jon

a)  Lyanna Stark

b)  Ashara Dayne

c)  Wylla the fisherwoman

d)  Wylla the maid

 

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On 11/10/2018 at 3:47 PM, The Transporter said:

Pick the parents from among the given choices.  Pick who you think the parent is and not who you want the parent to be.

The Fathers

1.   Aegon

Illyrio Mopatis

 

2.   Daenerys

Aerys II

 

3.  Tyrion

Tywin

 

4.  Jon

Brandon Stark

 

5.   Darkstar

Oberyn Martell

 

The Mothers

1.   Aegon

Serra Blackfyre

2.   Daenerys

Queen Rhaella

3.   Tyrion

Joanna

4.   Jon

Lyanna Stark

 

 

 

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Illyrio + Serra = Aegon Mopatis-Blackfyre

King Aerys + Queen Rhaella = Daenerys

Tywin + Joanna = Tyrion

Mance + Lyanna = Jon

Oberyn + a Dayne lady = Darkstar

Edited by Mordred

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On 11/11/2018 at 8:34 AM, Vaedys Targaryen said:

The red bolded part is what I think is most likely true by looking at canon, but the simple red part is what I believe is most definately a possibility by looking at theories.

I personally think that Jon's father is Arthur Dayne. I don't at all think Rhaegar is his father, and I don't think Brandon or Eddard would be down to have sex with her, even though incest is a huge theme in the story, and I don't see how she would ever have the oppertunity to be with Howland and Mance.

Arthur gets overlooked.  Aerys is another candidate for the baby's father.  These men are not out of the running.  

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