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Problematic aspects of Sansa`s education

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On 12/1/2018 at 5:43 AM, Springwatch said:

Another positive for Septa Mordane:


It really does show Mordane isn’t really a bad woman. She’s just a by product of her culture  and a relatively inconsequential cog in the system. It’s nice Martin seemingly wanted to give this character some nuance instead of just being some nagging old shrew, who oppresses free thinking, girls like Arya because she’s just awful.  To which he could have perfectly encomplized by never having her shown genuine care for the Stark girls.

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On 11/27/2018 at 2:39 PM, Bea Noleto said:

However, that accounts for Sansa thinking of Arya as an annoying rude brat who doesn't suck up to her as she should, but doesn't explain how can she blame her 9 year old little sister and her dead friend for all the violence and death that happened at the Trident, while exonerating the adults and Joffrey.

This is a very important question and and have many different answers that might clarify Sansa's reasoning. 

First of all let's difine death and violence. Violence for us and violence for 11 years old Sansa is not the same thing. The is an interesting quote from her thoughts:

Sansa had wept too, the first day. Even within the stout walls of Maegor’s Holdfast, with her door closed and barred, it was hard not to be terrified when the killing began. She had grown up to the sound of steel in the yard, and scarcely a day of her life had passed without hearing the clash of sword on sword, yet somehow knowing that the fighting was real made all the difference in the world. She heard it as she had never heard it before, and there were other sounds as well, grunts of pain, angry curses, shouts for help, and the moans of wounded and dying men. In the songs, the knights never screamed nor begged for mercy.

Joffrey was abusive and violent with Micah, but Sansa was too used to the boys playing that she failed to realize the danger. She had never seen real violence before she didn't even know it exists. Sansa was blind to the existence of pain, suffering and death. She didn't understand at all how bad the things were. She recognise that later on when she speaks with Tirells cusins, they are just silly little girls. She was not conscious about what is going on, she was extremely confused and looking for a traditional answer that would fit in her word( It is all Arya fault :( )


Nor why would she want so bad to marry Joffrey. If she was delluding herself to endure the marriage with a dangerous boy, shouldn't she feel relieved that she won't anymore, or at least obey her father as she was told to? Why cling to a fantasy that she used to protect herself  to go against her father and put herself in the dangerous position that she was trying to protect  herself from in the first place? That doesn't make sense as a coping mechanism

Immediately after Lady's death Sansa decides that she hates Joffrey and the Queen but at that stage another problem cames in. Sansa is pathologicaly insecure, she doesn't trust her own jugement, even when she comes to the right conclusions she doesn't value her own opinions and instincts. 

The engagement was still on, every one was acting normal and Sansa thought that she was mistaken about Joffrey.

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Both Cat and Ned didn't really prepare any of their children (including Jon) for the real world, which is odd considering that they both knew of the worlds harsh realities. You can see this in Jon's early belief in the Night's Watch as this sacred brotherhood when it's really a penal colony, Bran's fanciful beliefs about knighthood and of course Sansa being obsessed with songs about noble princes and love.

It seems like Cat and Ned were more focused on creating a bubble than anything else. Understandably but not really helpful. 

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