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3 minutes ago, Rhaenys_Targaryen said:

And yet, Gyldayn states that Jaehaerys and the Faith agreed to have that power being taken away from the Faith in the quoted part above (expanded shortly after posting and thus absent in the post of mine that you quoted). 

And even if the true reconciliation occurred in 54 AC (although Gyldayn calls the events of 48 AC the reconciliation on several occasions in the book), that still does not fit with Yandel's account, which states that Barth was sent to Oldtown by Jaehaerys to achieve the things Gyldayn states Jaehaerys himself achieved in 48 AC.

Yandel is pretty much wrong on all of that. He doesn't even mention the Doctrine of Exceptionalism.

It may be that Barth was sent to Oldtown later to deal with the final breaking of the Faith of the judicial powers, but Jaehaerys I and Alysanne reconciled with the Faith in 54 AC when they made clear who in the future would rule the Faith as much as everybody else in Westeros. 

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33 minutes ago, Lord Varys said:

Yandel is pretty much wrong on all of that. He doesn't even mention the Doctrine of Exceptionalism.

Yandel doesn't mention a number of other things. His focus is elsewhere, but that does not automatically make him wrong about everything.

 

33 minutes ago, Lord Varys said:

It may be that Barth was sent to Oldtown later to deal with the final breaking of the Faith of the judicial powers, but Jaehaerys I and Alysanne reconciled with the Faith in 54 AC when they made clear who in the future would rule the Faith as much as everybody else in Westeros. 

Perhaps Barth was sent later on, but the only account we have stating this (Yandel's) is contradictory nonetheless. So I suppose the question is: Do we have to consider this part of TWOIAF invalid now that F&B has been released, or should we treat this as two maesters reporting different accounts of history, leaving it unclear whether Yandel or Gyldayn (or neither) is correct?

Perhaps @Ran knows more about this matter?

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4 hours ago, Rhaenys_Targaryen said:

Yandel doesn't mention a number of other things. His focus is elsewhere, but that does not automatically make him wrong about everything.

But the narrative there is completely different. Yandel has no Doctrine of Exceptionalism, no Septon Mattheus, no crony of Jaehaerys' taking over as High Septon, and no corrupt Lord Hightower to put pressure on the Faith.

4 hours ago, Rhaenys_Targaryen said:

Perhaps Barth was sent later on, but the only account we have stating this (Yandel's) is contradictory nonetheless. So I suppose the question is: Do we have to consider this part of TWOIAF invalid now that F&B has been released, or should we treat this as two maesters reporting different accounts of history, leaving it unclear whether Yandel or Gyldayn (or neither) is correct?

Ran has commented on the fact that the Jaehaerys I chapter in TWoIaF is going to get some overhauls. No idea to what degree, but it seems pretty obvious that the Doctrine of Exceptionalism should be included there.

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Possibly an errata, although it could definitely be explained away.

A dragon egg was placed in Aemon's cradle shortly after his birth:

The king returned from the west a moon's turn before the queen was due, so he might be at her side when she delivered. The child came precisely when the maesters had said he would; a boy, clean-limbed and healthy, with eyes as pale as lilac. His hair, when it came in, was pale as well, shining like white gold, a color rare even in Valyria of old. Jaehaerys named him Aemon. "Daenerys will be cross with me,'' Alysanne said, as she put the princeling to her breast. "She was most insistent on wanting a sister." Jaehaerys laughed at that and said, "Next time.'' That night, at Alysanne's suggestion, he placed a dragons egg in the prince's cradle.

But Aemon at the age of seventeen claimed the dragon Caraxes from the Dragonpit, suggesting that he had not bonded with the dragon that hatched from his egg, if a dragon hatched from it at all. The fact that no further dragon (or the egg itself) is mentioned is a bit odd.

Of course it can be explained that a dragon hatched from the egg but Aemon did not bond with it, or that it died, or the egg never hatched at all. But the omission of such a mention is strange.

Was something edited out here?

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59 minutes ago, Rhaenys_Targaryen said:

Was something edited out here?

Not that I know. But this was pointed out to George.

I guess George originally wanted Jaehaerys/Alysanne to continue the dragon eggs in the cradle thing Rhaena started, but this obviously clashes with the death of Daenerys - who apparently was supposed to not have a dragon when she died - and the later purpose of the Dragonpit as a place to keep dragons away from such princes and princesses the king did not want to grant dragons.

If Aemon and the other children had gotten eggs in the cradle, then Maegelle, Vaegon, Daella, Saera, Viserra, and Gael should all have had eggs and little hatchlings, too (at least if the eggs hatched).

In the end, it might be that the entire Rhaena story about Vermithor and Silverwing might just be a legend and it was only the children of Viserys I who started this practice.

Aside from Aemon no other prince or princess until Rhaenyra's sons came along got an egg in their cradle.

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On 2/10/2019 at 9:03 AM, Rhaenys_Targaryen said:

Could someone with a later print of TWOIAF than the first one (or perhaps with a ebook version which is up-to-date) check if Septon Barth's year of death as stated in the chapter on Jaehaerys I has been corrected from 99 AC to 98 AC?

My kindle version v3.1_r7 has "When Septon Barth passed away in his sleep in 99 AC ..."

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