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40 years ago, the assassination of gay San Francisco city supervisor Harvey Milk and mayor George Moscone took place. Milk was the first openly gay elected official in California. 

The former pig that killed them, Dan White, was given a slap on the wirst. 7 years, only 5 served, for voluntary manglsaughter instead of murder. 
Look at the twinkie defense. 

The white night riots took place in response to the joke verdict. 

Dead Kennedys had cover art for their first album, a picture of burning cop cars from the riot. And they wrote new lyrics for their cover of I Fought the Law because of this whole shit show. That's actually the way I found out about this since schools never went into LGBTQ history.

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On 11/26/2018 at 4:17 AM, SweetPea said:

This is what I keep telling you. Trump may get a second term if the Dems pick another bad candidate like Hillary, but after that, the demographic changes alone will ensure a Dem win. The GOP has only a few years left unless they can win over a significant portion of the minority votes, but I don't see that happening.

Of course it would help, if the media didn't spend an enormous amount of time on her email habits. And generally had a better idea of how to separate out bullshit from more important matters.

Not that I really want to see Hillary run again. And of course you want to go with the best candidate possible, taking nothing for granted. 

Still for all the conservative bellyaching about the "liberal media", it sure does seem like conservatives were able to get the media to talk incessantly about her email usage.

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1 hour ago, OldGimletEye said:

Of course it would help, if the media didn't spend an enormous amount of time on her email habits. And generally had a better idea of how to separate out bullshit from more important matters.

Not that I really want to see Hillary run again. And of course you want to go with the best candidate possible, taking nothing for granted. 

Still for all the conservative bellyaching about the "liberal media", it sure does seem like conservatives were able to get the media to talk incessantly about her email usage.

Yeah, it's hard to see where conservatives get this 'liberal media' meme from when they covered her emails for years while covering Trump admitting to sexual assault for what?  24 hours?

The media does seem biased, but not in the way conservatives claim.

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11 hours ago, Maithanet said:

Cox (D) pulls ahead of Valadoa (R, incumbent) in California's 21st House District. This is the last House race still undecided, it was called for Valadoa by all the major networks on election night when he finished the night with a 5k vote lead.  But those mail in ballots have been bad and worse for him, and his lead has melted away.  There's still ballots to count, including in Republican areas, so this isn't over yet, but Cox has been gaining ground very reliably on the mail in ballots.  Looks like Valadoa is toast, and with it the Democrats picked up 40 seats.  That would mean that (barring special elections), the Democrats will have a 17 seat cushion to maintain control of the House after 2020.  Which isn't a lot, historically, but it's a lot better than nothing.  

While increasing the margin is always a positive, the key here is the symbolic nature of the pickup. 40 sounds more imposing than 39.

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The Pathetic Pelosi Putsch

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Pelosi strides into Wednesday’s House Democratic Caucus elections with her head held high, and her high heels on Moulton’s neck. She remains without a Democratic challenger. She has unleashed a wave of support from the Democratic faithful, from Barack Obama on down. She turned two of Moulton’s allies who had, just days before, stated their opposition to her. A third opponent suggested he’ll vote for Pelosi on the floor if no other Democratic option emerges. And she has kept several other Serve America PAC alumni from jumping aboard Moulton’s rickety bandwagon. While Pelosi isn’t completely in the clear for the final vote on January 3 on the House floor—with Moulton clinging to 14 fellow holdouts and eight other Democrats in the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus playing hard to get—she unquestionably holds the whip hand.

Dumping a historic figure like Pelosi, the first female speaker, after she weathered a Republican blitzkrieg to help her party win back the House, was always going to be a tall order. (And don’t say I didn’t warn them!) But Moulton’s operation has been, to borrow some military jargon, FUBAR. He’s poised to not only lose his battle with the party establishment, but to lose in such humiliating fashion that it could ruin his reputation and douse whatever presidential fires may be burning in his belly.

 

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Guardian: Manafort had secret talks with Assange

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Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort held secret talks with Julian Assange inside the Ecuadorian embassy in London, and visited around the time he joined Trump’s campaign, the Guardian has been told.

Sources have said Manafort went to see Assange in 2013, 2015 and in spring 2016 – during the period when he was made a key figure in Trump’s push for the White House.

It is unclear why Manafort wanted to see Assange and what was discussed. But the last meeting is likely to come under scrutiny and could interest Robert Mueller, the special prosecutor who is investigating alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

A well-placed source has told the Guardian that Manafort went to see Assange around March 2016. Months later WikiLeaks released a stash of Democratic emails stolen by Russian intelligence officers.

Well, this would explain why the Mueller team is asserting Manafort violated his plea deal.

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1 hour ago, aceluby said:

Yeah, it's hard to see where conservatives get this 'liberal media' meme from when they covered her emails for years while covering Trump admitting to sexual assault for what?  24 hours?

The media does seem biased, but not in the way conservatives claim.

Persecution complex. Is a major driver of conservative politics.

Or maybe there really is a war on Christmas…..

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3 hours ago, aceluby said:

Yeah, it's hard to see where conservatives get this 'liberal media' meme from when they covered her emails for years while covering Trump admitting to sexual assault for what?  24 hours?

The media does seem biased, but not in the way conservatives claim.

Sorry, when did this happen?

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21 minutes ago, SweetPea said:

Sorry, when did this happen?

On the Access tape, he admitted to sexually assaulting women. Grabbing by the p**** is sexual assault in case you didn't know. 

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Yeah, you know this is the pussy tape and Trump admitted he said it before he denied it. I know you'll say locker room talk, not admissible in court, not specific enough, etc, but it was an admission that he's predatory scum who doesn't know what consent is. So, no, He didn't admit to grabbing X''s pussy on Y occasion. There, you happy? 

I am looking forward to the discovery in the Summer Zervos case. I think this is the only active case?

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1 hour ago, SweetPea said:

Sorry, when did this happen?

He was caught on tape saying he sexually assaults women.  Maybe you missed it because the next day it was deemed more important to talk about Hillary's emails.  Or maybe, like most of the Trump world, you simply dismissed it because you've decided Trump gets a pass at all the wrong-doing he does on a daily basis.

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You all realize that he is completely aware of the AH tape and he is going to deny that what was described was assault, yes?

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Double post.  And I swear didn't even click it twice.  Weird.

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5 hours ago, DMC said:

Guardian: Manafort had secret talks with Assange

Well, this would explain why the Mueller team is asserting Manafort violated his plea deal.

Guess that explains what this was all about this morning.

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WASHINGTON — Paul Manafort, President Trump’s former campaign chairman, repeatedly lied to federal investigators in breach of a plea agreement he signed two months ago, the special counsel’s office said in a court filing late on Monday.

Prosecutors working for the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, said Mr. Manafort’s “crimes and lies” about “a variety of subject matters” relieve them of all promises they made to him in the plea agreement. But under the terms of the agreement, Mr. Manafort cannot withdraw his guilty plea.

Looks like Mueller gave Manafort enough rope to hang himself and Manafort willingly obliged.

But this just begs the question: just what does Manafort know that hasn't already been reported that is so bad he'd happily jeopardize a chance of leniency in sentencing to try and keep it hidden?

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1 minute ago, The Great Unwashed said:

Guess that explains what this was all about this morning.

Yeah that's what I was referring to.  Seems very unlikely the two stories being published within 24 hours was coincidental.

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My suspicion is that Mueller was waiting for the Trump questions to come back, and this was actually a coincidence.

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25 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

Looks to me like Manafort did not comprehend how much Mueller knows, and tried to lie to him.

That’s quite possible. We’ve heard people who were interviewed say Mueller knew more about them than they did.

Alternative theory: Manafort thought that the cost of lying and getting caught, i.e. life in prison, was less than telling the truth. Manafort’s associates don’t strike me as the type that are above killing someone in prison.

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