Predicting the Future of Characters

[norwaywolf123]

What do you think is the future of the characters below. I added somewhat minor characters i think will play important roles in the coming books.

• Justin Massey
• Asha Greyjoy
• Aurane Waters
• Lancel Lannister
• Shadrich "the Mad Mouse"
• High Sparrow - To me the High Sparrow it seems like he will resemble Pope Gregor. Like Pope Gregor the High Sparrow will attempt to put the church over secular(in this case feudal) authorities.
• Sybelle Spicer nee Westerling - I think she will turn on her brother Rolph. Sybell will also secure a Lannister marriage for Jeyne.
• Edric Storm - Will become lord of House Baratheon
• Nymeria Sand
• Tyene Sand - Will try to undermine the Faith of the Seven, which will lead to her death. Allthough she will to some extent undermine the Faith and/or some members of the Faith before she dies.
• Daven Lannister
• Lothar Frey
• "Black" Walder Frey

You can add other characters if you'd like.

[Darth Sidious]

5 hours ago, norwaywolf123 said:

What do you think is the future of the characters below. I added somewhat minor characters i think will play important roles in the coming books.

• Justin Massey - Betray Stannis and take his gold.  
• Asha Greyjoy - Leader of the Ironborn.
• Aurane Waters - Betray Cersei and steal those boats.
• Lancel Lannister - Religious nut.  He's been born again.  
• Shadrich "the Mad Mouse" - Maybe he's Howland Reed.  Dies in the Eyrie.
• High Sparrow - Killed by Gregor.
• Sybelle Spicer nee Westerling - Live 
• Edric Storm - Live and grow old as a bastard.
• Nymeria Sand - The sand snakes will fight the Lannisters.  Most of them will die.  
• Tyene Sand - See Nymeria.  
• Daven Lannister - I don't know.  He's not important enough to get a resolution.
• Lothar Frey - Lord of the Crossing until Big Walder boots his keister off of the high seat of House Frey.  
• "Black" Walder Frey - I don't know.  He might live to be 90 after siring lotsa bastards.

You can add other characters if you'd like.

 

[chrisdaw]

Justin Massey will get his sellswords and bring them back to Westeros but Stannis will have died. So he will instead fall in behind KITN Jon. As reward Jon will give Justin Asha's hand.

For bringing what Ironborn she can, swearing fealty to Jon and marrying Justin Massey, Jon will Make Asha Lady of Sea Dragon Point.

Aurane will switch and swap sides as the tide come in and out, and will impregnate Dany. Their child will die in the womb.

Lancel will travel to KL to join the faith. When Dany sentences Jaime to die in her dragon pit Lancel will lead a religious riot to save Jaime, entering the pit with no weapon but his faith. He will succeed, and Dany will be brought down in the chaos and forced to flee. Lancel's heroics will be thought a miracle of the Seven and he will be chosen to be the new High Septon. When Jon marches south and defeats king Tyrion, High Septon Lancel, ever the zealot, will refuse to allow the Faith to make a peace with Jon and his followers whom keep all different types religions. This will cause extreme difficulty for the realm, not allowing it to be healed and consolidated before the Others arrive. So, for the good of the realm, Jaime will murder Lancel, his cousin, saviour and High Septon.

High Sparrow will die whilst he is feuding with Dany, refusing to crown her despite her having won the war and being the only remaining force left in KL. And so true or not, it will be thought Dany had him killed.

Nymeria Sand, not 100% on her but I think Arya and her fight, Arya wins and takes her identity (to infiltrate Aegon's small council).

[norwaywolf123]

1 hour ago, chrisdaw said:

Justin Massey will get his sellswords and bring them back to Westeros but Stannis will have died. So he will instead fall in behind KITN Jon. As reward Jon will give Justin Asha's hand.

Would it be possible that Justin Massey would join up with either fAegon or Daenerys instead?

[Euron III Greyjoy]

I think by the time Justin Massey returns from Essos Stannis will be dead. House Massey is of First Man origin, so he might try and use that fact to win the favor of whoever ends up as either Lord or King in the North. 

We know that Asha Greyjoy wanted to lead the Iron Born in a more peaceful direction, and actually try to make peace with the Northerners. If, say for example, Jon Snow becomes the new Lord/King of the North, then he could free Asha and give her some land in the North, in exchange the North can use her ships. 

Aurane Waters is a tricky one, he is currently a Pirate King stationed in the Stepstones. I feel like he could either join with, or fuck over Daenerys on her way back to Westeros. Also there is Patchface's "prophecy". Take this with a grain of salt, but he says "I will lead it! We will march into the sea and out again. Under the waves we will ride seahorses, and mermaids will blow seashells to announce our coming, oh, oh, oh." Mermaids are the sigil of House Manderly, and seahorses are the sigil of House Velaryon. Maybe this means that Wyman Manderly's fleet, and Aurane Waters' dromonds will either clash, or work together in the future. 

Lancel Lannister will probably die either by Cersei, or Aegon when he takes Kings Landing. 

Ser Shadrick will probably die trying to kidnap Sansa from the Vale. 

I could see the High Sparrow being killed by Ser Robert Strong on Cersei's orders. 

Sybell Spicer is currently being escorted by Jaime's men through the Riverlands, along with her children and Edmure Tully. I could easily see them being ambushed, either by the Brotherhood without Banners, Riverlanders loyal to House Tully being led by Blackfish, or maybe even both factions working together. So I think Sybell will either get captured or killed. 

Once Stannis, and presumably Shireen die, Edric Storm would be the best choice for the next Lord of Storm's End. He grew up in the Castle, and I presume was given a Lord's education like Jon Snow. Once Stannis is dead, Davos will give away Edric's location so he can be brought back to Westeros without risk of being burnt alive for his blood. 

Nymeria Sand is currently on her way to Kings Landing to sit on the Small Council. If Cersei manages to get out of her trial alive, I cant see her taking kindly to the Dornish woman. Maybe she will play a part in Tommen's death. 

Tyene Sand is going to Kings Landing disguised as a Septa to earn the trust of the High Sparrow. Again, like her sister I could see her playing a part in Tommen's death. 

Devan Lannister will probably be either captured or killed during the second Red Wedding, since will it be his wedding and all.

Lothar Frey I think will get killed in the second Red Wedding, especially considering he was one of the minds who came up with the Red Wedding in the first place. 

I don't think Black Walder will be at Devan's wedding, so he wont be killed there. He would probably see the slaughter of most of House Frey as a blessing, and try to put his claim forth for the Twins. 

[norwaywolf123]

1 hour ago, King Aegon I Targaryen said:

I think by the time Justin Massey returns from Essos Stannis will be dead. House Massey is of First Man origin, so he might try and use that fact to win the favor of whoever ends up as either Lord or King in the North. 

Despite their victory, the Andals were outnumbered by the native First Men of Westeros. The early Andal kings often tolerated worship of the old gods in godswoods to prevent religious turmoil,^[5]although the Faith of the Seven came to dominate southern Westeros over time. According to George R. R. Martin, hardly any Westerosi are pure Andal or First Man after thousands of years of interbreeding.

I don't think that House Massey having roots in the First Men prior to the Andal-ification of southern Westeros will be of much importance. Like House Lannister the orignal Massey first men line might have been supplanted by an Andalline sometime since the Andal came to Westeros.

1 hour ago, King Aegon I Targaryen said:

Aurane Waters is a tricky one, he is currently a Pirate King stationed in the Stepstones. I feel like he could either join with, or fuck over Daenerys on her way back to Westeros. Also there is Patchface's "prophecy". Take this with a grain of salt, but he says "I will lead it! We will march into the sea and out again. Under the waves we will ride seahorses, and mermaids will blow seashells to announce our coming, oh, oh, oh." Mermaids are the sigil of House Manderly, and seahorses are the sigil of House Velaryon. Maybe this means that Wyman Manderly's fleet, and Aurane Waters' dromonds will either clash, or work together in the future. 

My pet theory is that Aurane will marry Daenerys, become her lover or attempt court her.

[Euron III Greyjoy]

1 hour ago, norwaywolf123 said:

I don't think that House Massey having roots in the First Men prior to the Andal-ification of southern Westeros will be of much importance. Like House Lannister the orignal Massey first men line might have been supplanted by an Andalline sometime since the Andal came to Westeros.

I'm not saying that House Massey are full blooded First Men or anything, I'm saying that Justin Massey will probably try to use the fact that House Massey are of First Men origin to win the favor of whoever is left in charge of Winterfell once Stannis dies. He was already petitioning with Stannis to get lands in the North, since he has all but given up on his lands back in the South, so I see no reason why he wouldn't try the same with whoever becomes Lord/King of the North. I'm not saying that it will work either, I do think that Justin Massey will use any advantage he can to win their favor. 

1 hour ago, norwaywolf123 said:

My pet theory is that Aurane will marry Daenerys, become her lover or attempt court her.

I wouldn't be surprised if he tries the same thing as Quentyn Martell, use his Valyrian blood to try and control a dragon. 

 

[Son of Man]

16 hours ago, norwaywolf123 said:

What do you think is the future of the characters below. I added somewhat minor characters i think will play important roles in the coming books.

• Justin Massey
• Asha Greyjoy
• Aurane Waters
• Lancel Lannister
• Shadrich "the Mad Mouse"
• High Sparrow
• Sybelle Spicer nee Westerling - I think she will turn on her brother Rolph. Sybell will also secure a Lannister marriage for Jeyne.
• Edric Storm - Will become lord of House Baratheon
• Nymeria Sand
• Tyene Sand - Will try to undermine the Faith of the Seven, which will lead to her death.
• Daven Lannister
• Lothar Frey
• "Black" Walder Frey

You can add other characters if you'd like.

Massey will find it hard to get sell swords.  Most are already employed by the slave masters.  He'll take the gold and bargain his way back into the Lannister camp.  He will become a lord and given lands and a castle of his own.  

Asha escapes and finds a fleet of her own.  She fights Uncle Euron in a naval battle and wins.  

Aurane Waters will throw his support and kneel before the Mother of Dragons.  In exchange, he gets legitimized and given his own lands.

Landel is killed by Robert Strong.  High Sparrow is killed by Robert Strong.

Edric Storm will inherit Storm's End after he bends the knee to the Mother of Dragons.

Lothar Frey will become Walder's heir after his brothers are killed by the Brotherhood.  He's a smart man.  He will find the Brotherhood and kill Lady Stoneheart.  

Black Walder will die but not before he kills Arya Stark.

[norwaywolf123]

2 hours ago, King Aegon I Targaryen said:

I'm not saying that House Massey are full blooded First Men or anything, I'm saying that Justin Massey will probably try to use the fact that House Massey are of First Men origin to win the favor of whoever is left in charge of Winterfell once Stannis dies. He was already petitioning with Stannis to get lands in the North, since he has all but given up on his lands back in the South, so I see no reason why he wouldn't try the same with whoever becomes Lord/King of the North. I'm not saying that it will work either, I do think that Justin Massey will use any advantage he can to win their favor. 

I would not be suprised if Justin Massey attempted to court Daenerys. Justin probably has some valyrian ancestry that may count in his favor.

[Euron III Greyjoy]

1 hour ago, norwaywolf123 said:

I would not be suprised if Justin Massey attempted to court Daenerys. Justin probably has some valyrian ancestry that may count in his favor.

Even if he did have known Valyrian ancestry, he'd get laughed out of the room if he tried to court Daenerys.  xD

[Nevets]

23 hours ago, norwaywolf123 said:

What do you think is the future of the characters below. I added somewhat minor characters i think will play important roles in the coming books.

• Justin Massey
• Asha Greyjoy
• Aurane Waters
• Lancel Lannister
• Shadrich "the Mad Mouse"
• High Sparrow
• Sybelle Spicer nee Westerling - I think she will turn on her brother Rolph. Sybell will also secure a Lannister marriage for Jeyne.
• Edric Storm - Will become lord of House Baratheon
• Nymeria Sand
• Tyene Sand - Will try to undermine the Faith of the Seven, which will lead to her death.
• Daven Lannister
• Lothar Frey
• "Black" Walder Frey

You can add other characters if you'd like.

Can't say I care about most these. but here goes:

Asha Greyjoy - After Euron makes a hash of things and is defeated, she reopens the Kingsmoot based on Theon's absence and is elected Queen.  Orients Islands toward trade and exploration.

Lancel Lannister - Defeated by Robert Strong.  You thought otherwise?

Shadrick - A red herring set up to distract us.  His presence in the vale has nothing to do with Sansa Stark.  May be spy for Varys or other third-party though..  If he does get involved with Sansa will likely overplay his had and get killed.

Edric Storm - Next Lord of Storms End.  Really the only good candidate once Stannis and Shireen die - which they will.

The rest, I don't know and don't really care much.

Additional names:

Meera Reed - Discovers CotF are trouble, and leads Bran and Hodor to safety via the underground river.  Winds up at Winterfell.  Possible romantic entanglement with Jon.

Jeyne Poole - Goes with Justin Massey and banker to Braavos.  Turns out to be pregnant with Ramsay's son.  Arya finds out she is there, they meet and Arya decides to return to Westeros.  Jeyne tags along.  Ends up marrying Podrick and her son  becomes Lord Hornwood.

Gendry - Reconnects with Arya.  Both realize they are unsuited for one another and go their separate ways.  Becomes a skilled armorer and blacksmith and marries an innkeeper's daughter.

 

  

[norwaywolf123]

2 minutes ago, Nevets said:

Can't say I care about most these. but here goes:

Who do you care about?

2 minutes ago, Nevets said:

Lancel Lannister - Defeated by Robert Strong.  You thought otherwise?

I think that Lancel will be a person resembling Baelor "the Blessed" and Daeron "the Young Dragon". Lancel will be pious but also competent with arms.

[Guest]

On 11/30/2018 at 7:02 PM, norwaywolf123 said:

 

• Justin Massey - he'll probably arrive in Bravos. hoping there'll be a sellsword company of Northmen who fled after the Starks became lords, but if there is, Littlefinger will probably hire them to conquer the North. 
• Asha Greyjoy - unless Justin take Asha with him against Stannis' orders, she'll probably remain our POV into whats going on with Stannis. This could detail everything that goes on with the Battle of Ice and Winterfell. 
• Aurane Waters - I'm hoping either him or Salador Sann declares for Jon Conn and Aegon but is really backing Euron. maybe they'll team up in this. I could see either or both of them sacking Claw Isle supposedly in the name of Aegon, stealing the Kraken horn, and then giving it to Euron. i also think either or both will capture Arianne and give her to Euron, making her our POV into Euron when he's on his way to take over King's Landing.

 

[Euron Lannister]

• Justin Massey - thinks Stannis is dead due to the Pink Letter and takes Shireen with him to Braavos
• Asha Greyjoy - She will Go with stannis at first, then grabs theon and escapes
• Aurane Waters - Will support one of the Targaryens, i hope for Aegon
• Lancel Lannister - Die or will be send to the wall with the rest of the Faith Militant
• Shadrich "the Mad Mouse" - Try to take Sansa and die by the hands of Lothar Brune, or will take sansa and die in the riverlands by the hands of Brienne, Jaime or the Hound
• High Sparrow - Die
• Sybelle Spicer nee Westerling - Will be killed somehow by Stark loyalists, the BwoB or maybe jaime
• Edric Storm - Massey will try to find him and marry him to shireen
• Nymeria Sand - She will be the reason the Lannister-Tyrell Alliance breaks apart
• Tyene Sand - Will undermine the Faith of the Seven, and kill the high septon
• Daven Lannister - i hope he will go 'rogue' and claim Casterly rock
• Lothar Frey - will be hanged by the bwob
• "Black" Walder Frey - same
• Meera Reed - don't know, the whole Bran-BR story is unpredictable
• Jeyne Poole - Will loose her nose, Finds out about Jon's death, plays the Arya role to ralley the north against the boltons, due to the missing nose noone sees that she isn't arya
• Gendry - Will have some Bro-time with jaime, and go to join the nights watch since jaime convinces him to do something meaningfull

[Aline de Gavrillac]

On 11/30/2018 at 7:02 PM, norwaywolf123 said:

What do you think is the future of the characters below. I added somewhat minor characters i think will play important roles in the coming books.

• Justin Massey
• Asha Greyjoy
• Aurane Waters
• Lancel Lannister
• Shadrich "the Mad Mouse"
• High Sparrow
• Sybelle Spicer nee Westerling - I think she will turn on her brother Rolph. Sybell will also secure a Lannister marriage for Jeyne.
• Edric Storm - Will become lord of House Baratheon
• Nymeria Sand
• Tyene Sand - Will try to undermine the Faith of the Seven, which will lead to her death.
• Daven Lannister
• Lothar Frey
• "Black" Walder Frey

You can add other characters if you'd like.

Justin Massey will run off with the gold and set himself for a comfortable life in Essos.  No reason to come back to Iceland when the climate is so much better in Essos.

Asha Greyjoy and Theon Greyjoy will fight Euron for control of the Ironborn.  Euron is killed and Asha gets the Seastone chair.

Aurane Waters takes his stolen fleet to Meereen and pledges them to the service of Queen Daenerys.

Lancel dies in the service of the High Sparrow.

High Sparrow beats the Lannisters at their own game and casts them down.

Sybell Spicer will go down with the Lannisters.  Tyrion and the mercenaries take Casterly Rock and her lands are given to the sell swords.  

Edric Storm pledges loyalty to Queen Daenerys and she removes the taint of bastardry and gives him part of Storm's End.  Most of the Storm Lands will be appropriated and made part of the Crownlands.  

Nymeria and Tyene Sand will go back to Dorne for the winter.

Daven will die with the other Lannisters.

Lothar Frey is a smart guy.  He takes what gold he has and his family to Essos for the winter.

Black Walder takes the Twins but dies during the winter.  

So basically everybody who doesn't migrate to Essos for the winter will either starve to death, freeze to death, or killed in combat.  They will get wighted by the Others soon after they die.

 

[Aline de Gavrillac]

On 12/1/2018 at 6:20 AM, norwaywolf123 said:

Would it be possible that Justin Massey would join up with either fAegon or Daenerys instead?

I hope he does.  Join up with Daenerys.  

[Nevets]

20 hours ago, norwaywolf123 said:

Who do you care about?

The ones I mentioned in my post mostly.  I am mainly interested in the North, Riverlands, and the Starks.

[Mordred]

On 11/30/2018 at 7:02 PM, norwaywolf123 said:

What do you think is the future of the characters below. I added somewhat minor characters i think will play important roles in the coming books.

• Justin Massey - Screws Stan over and takes the gold for himself.  He knows winter is coming so he bails out, buys a palace in Tyrosh and lives to the ripe  old age of 90.  
• Asha Greyjoy - Finds her own crew and battles Euron for the leadership of the Iron Islands.  She wins and kills Euron.  Migrates her crew to Essos and serves Daenerys Targaryen.  
• Aurane Waters - Defeated and killed by Euron's armada.
• Lancel Lannister - Trial by combat with Gregor.  He dies.
• Shadrich "the Mad Mouse" - Chucks Sansa out of the moon door.  Rewarded by Robert Arryn and given his own land and keep.  He gets to enjoy for a while until the White Walkers come and turn him into a short wight.  
• High Sparrow - Will come face to face with the White Walkers.  He gets zombified.
• Sybelle Spicer nee Westerling - Zombified when the White Walkers march through the westerlands.
• Edric Storm - He bends the knee to Daenerys Targaryen and becomes a loyal subject of Her Majesty.
• Nymeria Sand - Leads a migration to Essos when the long night begins.
• Tyene Sand - Migrates to Essos.
• Daven Lannister - Zombified by the White Walkers
• Lothar Frey - Wightified by the White Walkers
• "Black" Walder Frey - Wightified by the White Walkers

You can add other characters if you'd like.

 

[Alexis-something-Rose]

If Justin Massey ends up in Braavos, I think he'll return with Arya to Westeros. I think he is going to know who she is. I'm really curious to see what in the hell happened to House Massey that he has no lands or castle anymore. Does it go back to the fall of the Targaryens or is it a more recent thing?

Aurane Waters, I can see him landing his ships to the members of the Golden Company who may have been stranded in the Stepstones by the Volantenes and deliver them to their intended destination. I think he would go and find Dany, but information about her would-be demise was already spreading. It's just a matter of time before it reaches the Stepstones.

Sybell Westerling will choke on her venom. 

Nymeria Sand is arriving in King's Landing at a terrible time. Let's forget for a moment that the kid could be fake. Aegon would be her cousin by blood. Like Varys told Kevan, someone somewhere will blame the Dornish. Aegon has landed, Kevan and Pycelle have been assassinated. If Lady Nym makes it to King's Landing, I think she will be quickly acquainted with the black cells. Even if Cersei believes Aegon is fake, she could still use him to get rid of Nymeria.

I very much enjoy Devan Lannister but I don't think he'll make it out of this. There's certainly the possibility of this Red Wedding 2.0 or he could just be taken by the BwB.

[kleevedge]

Aurane Waters - I think Aurane is part of the fleet at White Harbor. I can see him siding with Dany, since according to Cersei he looks so much like Rhaegar. I do think if him and Euron happen to meet Euron will take him out.

Nymeria Sand - She is going to find out about her sister Sarella's death (I believe Shae is Sarella Sand) and try to take revenge on Cersei or Jaime, and inevitably fail.

Asha Greyjoy - I can see her siding with Victarion to get (spoiler)

Justin Massey - Might end up marrying Val but no real idea what's going to happen with massey

Lancel Lannister - After finding out about Kevan's death, he's going to convince the warriors sons to go after the Tyrell's. (Cersei going to blame the Tyrells for the murders)

Devan Lannister - hes going to go back to casterly rock and eventually be attacked, by either (f)aegon or the large fleet at white harbor