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TRAVELERS season 3; now really a Netflix original

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I know there a few people watching this. The only thread I've found is archived, so I thought to start a new one. If this thread reaches 3 pages, I'll edit the title to say "spoilers". :)

I'll start watching tonight. I am excited for this show.

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I've already watched Continuum, in which the middle sections got really good!  Front and back matter, not so much.

 

 

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Was surprised and delighted to see this pop up today - one of the benefits of Netflix's general lack of promotion. :D

This is a cracking show. A fascinating concept, underpinned by great writers and actors.

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Moving through this fairly quickly. I've reached episode 4 last night.

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Damn, I was hoping Amanda Tapping was going to have a recurring role this season. At least, she is directing a bunch of the episodes.

 

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Finished!!! Once again, one of the most binge-worthy shows out there. High pace, solid drama, strong characters, just overall brilliant. 

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But on that note, I am slightly in shock after the last two episodes.

1) I had a feeling David was going to die, even back in season 2, as his role grew. Too nice of a person not to suffer some horrible fate. 

2) The ending was extremely bittersweet. 

It may be that this is the last we'll see of the show. I think Brad Wright had that feeling, too, considering how he ended it. Yes, there's that small nugget at the end, just in case there will be a 4th season, but even if that's the case, there may be a hard reset on everything. Will even the same characters return?

 

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WTF was episode 3?  That felt so out of place.  Not a fan of episode 5 either, but I was flagging pretty hard when I watched it last night, and woke up with about 15 minutes remaining in episode 6.

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56 minutes ago, RedEyedGhost said:

WTF was episode 3?  That felt so out of place.  Not a fan of episode 5 either, but I was flagging pretty hard when I watched it last night, and woke up with about 15 minutes remaining in episode 6.

Maybe it feels out of place now, but Travelers has always been a show where they tried to combine the episodic format with a streamlined story telling. It works better in some episodes, less so in others. Since you're only at Ep. 5-6? :P I'll say only that Ep 3 will feel less out of place by the end. There's a recurring theme with what happens there, and it also touches on Mac's character. That being said, it's also a style of Brad Wright's which was done many times in Stargate, where a story is told start to finish in an episode, but in a follow up season the setting is revisited with another story that can be considered a sequel to the previous.

If there's one thing to criticize about this season, it's that it's too short. 10 episodes is not enough for this format, imo.

 

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1 hour ago, Corvinus said:

Maybe it feels out of place now, but Travelers has always been a show where they tried to combine the episodic format with a streamlined story telling. It works better in some episodes, less so in others. Since you're only at Ep. 5-6? :P I'll say only that Ep 3 will feel less out of place by the end. There's a recurring theme with what happens there, and it also touches on Mac's character. That being said, it's also a style of Brad Wright's which was done many times in Stargate, where a story is told start to finish in an episode, but in a follow up season the setting is revisited with another story that can be considered a sequel to the previous.

If there's one thing to criticize about this season, it's that it's too short. 10 episodes is not enough for this format, imo. 

 

It is clear that is one of the streams with best pacing. Kind of what I think a stream should be instead of a 10/13 hours continuous story that 99% of the times just gets boring or never ending.

However the series was clearly a huge mess. First they had to clear last season's finale with their closed ones forgeting that they are from the future and the agencies becoming their partners instead of potential enemies.

Then the characters were in a point where their personal story was just boring. Trevor had no personal story with the exception of some weird moments with the counselor (why give him one gf in the previous seasons if they never delved into that?), philip keeps geting problems with drugs and no outsider friend, carly lost the personal story about the son and boyfriend, marcie and mac still had personal stories but much less interesting than in previous seasons.

I think the final was exactly what this series needed. And if we are lucky next season the team will have less elements so that they can focus on developing the characters personal stories more. Otherwise it would be better to just make them all agents instead of having them having personal lives to hide what they are because the show just ignores the characters personal lives...

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I really liked this season, but the ending pretty much meant that this was the show finale. I liked the ending and I don't think that they are seriously considering a S4.

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The paradox of timetravel means that there's no plausible chance for the same team to reunite - the characters of S3 are dead or will die in the incoming nuclear strike, the only chance would be if they are sent back a second time into Grants new timeline, where he basically cancels the entire plot of S2 and S3 and a good part of S1 as well (that's how In interpreted the note reading "Helios" that he gave the scientist).

And if they send the team back in the same hosts in this timeline, they will pretty much destroy the happy ending for Marcy/David (I found that final scene in the bus really well done) and in any case Marcy et al. will have all their character developments reset to S1E1.

So it's hard to see how they can have a continuity between the end of S3 and a potential new S4 that goes beyond playing in the same universe.

 

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4 hours ago, Alarich II said:

I really liked this season, but the ending pretty much meant that this was the show finale. I liked the ending and I don't think that they are seriously considering a S4.

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The paradox of timetravel means that there's no plausible chance for the same team to reunite - the characters of S3 are dead or will die in the incoming nuclear strike, the only chance would be if they are sent back a second time into Grants new timeline, where he basically cancels the entire plot of S2 and S3 and a good part of S1 as well (that's how In interpreted the note reading "Helios" that he gave the scientist).

And if they send the team back in the same hosts in this timeline, they will pretty much destroy the happy ending for Marcy/David (I found that final scene in the bus really well done) and in any case Marcy et al. will have all their character developments reset to S1E1.

So it's hard to see how they can have a continuity between the end of S3 and a potential new S4 that goes beyond playing in the same universe.

 

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Well I hope there will be a season 4, but yeah, this could definitely be the end of the series. I think the ending allows the writers to do whatever. There's still room to have the same characters, just slightly different. Or they could completely change it. Recall in season 2, episode "17 minutes" when the Director keeps sending travelers over and over again to help the team out, it implies the Director can either go big or go small, making only minor tweaks. 

It probably depends on whether or not the actors are willing and able to return, what budget Netflix will give it, etc that will decide matters. This is a show where the same actors can be present, but play different characters, as we've seen with Jeff this season.

The ending with Marcy and David was bittersweet, since it wasn't the same Marcy, but considering that 001 fucked up the original Marcy to begin with, and David really deserves his happiness, it was a good ending. So, of course, they have to mess it up in a future season. :P

In all honesty, I was kinda bummed by the ending, as it showed humanity being incapable of improving. Personally, I'd like to feel more optimistic of the future.

 

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Just finished season 3.

Would love more of this show because I love the concept and the characters, but I don't know if a season 4 incarnation would be any good.

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I was very confused about Marcie and David at the end. Was she original Marcie? If so, why wasn't she mentally impaired? Not sure what was going on there. Maybe it's just there for a happy ending for those two and if there is season 4 it would then be explained?

Anyway, didn't enjoy season 3 as much as 1 & 2 but I still enjoyed it a lot. Even if most of this season I kept feeling like I was skipping ahead and missed an episode just abut every time I started on a new episode. Previous seasons did that to me too sometimes but season 3 was just crazy like that.

And because it is now a Netflix show, having the actors say "fuck" felt a lot like a kid who got a new toy to play with.

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2 hours ago, drawkcabi said:

Just finished season 3.

Would love more of this show because I love the concept and the characters, but I don't know if a season 4 incarnation would be any good.

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I was very confused about Marcie and David at the end. Was she original Marcie? If so, why wasn't she mentally impaired? Not sure what was going on there. Maybe it's just there for a happy ending for those two and if there is season 4 it would then be explained?

 

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Marcy lost her mental capabilities when Ingram used her in his experiments to build his present day mind-transplantation machine (in S2). So it's original Marcy.

 

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10 hours ago, Alarich II said:
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Marcy lost her mental capabilities when Ingram used her in his experiments to build his present day mind-transplantation machine (in S2). So it's original Marcy.

 

I have no recollection of that at all.

Last year when season 2 came out I did a complete rewatch of Season 1, I guess I should have done that this year with season 2. Oh well.

Thanks for explaining that!

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