Bronn Stone Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 If you think you know how tall any of the shorter quarterbacks are, you are kidding yourself. The closest to the truth you'll get is at the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, briantw said: Brees and Mayfield are both over six feet. I think Mayfield was 6'1 in shoes. I see Brees listed at 6 feet even. But who knows, it may have been fudged. These numbers get fudged all the time. Brees is comparable to Wilson in height and is an all time great. We're literally disagreeing about an inch here. Not an Al Pacino Any Given Sunday kind of inch, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Bronn Stone said: If you think you know how tall any of the shorter quarterbacks are, you are kidding yourself. The closest to the truth you'll get is at the combine. That would be why I just listed Mayfield's Combine number. Wilson's Combine height was 5'10 5/8", so he is absolutely under six feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronn Stone Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I'm not as tall as I was when I was 22. I doubt Drew Brees is as tall as he was at that age either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 37 minutes ago, briantw said: I mean, I definitely think that skill can override height. We've seen it done before. But at the same time, there's just not a lot of examples of successful QBs under six feet. You've got Russell Wilson and that's pretty much it. There's not a lot of examples of QBs under 6 feet, period. Can you name many that are actual failures? For a long time, they were simply never given a shot. Really, even taking out the idea of Russell Wilson being this outlier, simply look at the dude's performance in games. Again quality opponents like, well, Alabama, who is made up of basically NFL players at this point. The idea that you won't be able to see over your linemen for throws matters a lot less when you're doing shotgun for 70% of your snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Bronn Stone said: Fixed. Fake News! Tua will still be the likely favorite to go first overall. 3 hours ago, Maithanet said: Taking Murray and giving up on Rosen would be surprising, since that would be essentially throwing away last year's #10 pick (Rosen's trade value would be destroyed by this move). But Rosen wasn't good this year (11tds, 14 ints), so it's really an open question whether people saw enough flashes of potential whether there's hope for further development. His scouting report (as I remember it) was that he was pretty pro-ready, but he took too many risks and would get punished by NFL defenses early. That definitely happened, 14 picks in 13 games is not good, even for a rookie. The other big question is how good your scouts think Murray is. If he's a qb who is legit worth the 1st overall pick, you can't pass that by, certainly not for Josh Rosen. I wouldn't be too hard on Rosen. Bradford was even worse than he was. The Cards were a terrible team with lane cones for an offensive line. Honestly if I were them I'd pray for one of the QB needy teams to fall in love with Murray and give you a monster package for the top pick. 2 hours ago, Jace, Basilissa said: Don't pick Jay Cutler as your backup, maybe display better judgement? Okay Confucius. 1 hour ago, briantw said: I mean, I definitely think that skill can override height. We've seen it done before. But at the same time, there's just not a lot of examples of successful QBs under six feet. You've got Russell Wilson and that's pretty much it. As for Mayfield, he measured in at 6'0 5/8" at the Combine, so he's pretty much 6'1. Tried to google Brees' numbers but the first few links didn't give me anything concrete so I gave up. Honestly that's not the place to quibble over an inch or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronn Stone Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Tywin et al. said: Fake News! Tua will still be the likely favorite to go first overall. He may well. Especially if the team with the first overall pick that year is a team that gets early picks on a frequent basis because they keep screwing them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bronn Stone said: He may well. Especially if the team with the first overall pick that year is a team that gets early picks on a frequent basis because they keep screwing them up. Finally not us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Tua will be available next year. Trevor Lawrence won’t be available until two years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Things go from bad to worse for the Steelers with the hiring of Teryl Austin to help their secondary. He had the Bengals defense playing at a historically bad level before getting fired mid-season. Especially our CB’s (who are all 1st rounders). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 Just now, Nictarion said: Things go from bad to worse for the Steelers with the hiring of Teryl Austin to help their secondary. He had the Bengals defense playing at a historically bad level before getting fired mid-season. Especially our CB’s (who are all 1st rounders). Hopefully his insider knowledge will help determine when Tyler Eifert is and isn't on IR for 60% of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jace, Extat Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 Conditions definitely favoring the Colts. Divine providence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Triskele said: I'm amending my pick to say that Indy with their o-line in the snow finds a way to do the upset in KC. I never bet against Andy Reid choking away a playoff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Triskele said: Interesting that Simms thinks that Mahomes handled the elements a bit better than Luck in warmups. Luck throws wobblers sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 This is going to get ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingintheNorth4 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I feel like everyone is just waiting for the inevitable second half collapse from the Chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay B. Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 A slight pulse, Jace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 minute ago, KingintheNorth4 said: I feel like everyone is just waiting for the inevitable second half collapse from the Chiefs. Not everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 Just now, Triskele said: Even with that punt block TD it still feels hopeless for Indy, and I look like a fool. Indy cannot get a first down, and KC is still moving the ball with ease. You're telling me. I want to bash my stupid head into the wall for being so naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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