DMC Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Jace, Basilissa said: I meant before she crashes into him. As in 'his little ship could presumably travel 150 yards in 30 seconds if she didn't crash it.' I thought his plan of driving his vehicle inside of the technologically complicated machine's inner workings seemed like a good way to break it. Probably would have made sense to arc into the opening instead of driving through the beam though. I thought someone shoulda died there, yeah. Pretty apt opportunity. Shoulda been Poe, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A True Kaniggit Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 32 minutes ago, Jace, Basilissa said: Where are these endless FO legions? Are they on the fleet that's burning in space? Probably gonna be a real chore to find 2,500 guys in fighting shape, stop rescue efforts, transport them to the field, and send them into a meat grinder. Could take a while. We only see the AT-AT's, the cannon, and some tugs. Those AT-AT's probably hold what? 50? Maybe 100 guys if it's really cramped? I don't get your second point. 1 round of modern artillery will make a bigger hole in dirt than the lasers did in hundreds. Shooting artillery through a mountain would take an ungodly amount of munitions, which can we agree might be hard to organize with the fleet on fire!?! Is this really that hard? Presumably the FO sat there setting up the cannon because they needed it right? If it woulda taken five minutes to blast a hole in the rock wall they could have just fucking done that. And if not? Every minute of time could lead to something. One man's life (they lost a helluva lot more than that in the attack on the cannon) is cheap to buy the 20-50 left another hour to figure out a strategy or build defenses inside. Yeah, those endless FO legions are absolutely on the escort star destroyers that were not damaged in the suicide run. Not so much a chore as a minor tactical deployment. And the lasers from the AT-ATs, (which we've see burn through space armor) could've made a 10 ft tunnel through the mountain in relatively short order if the commanders (Hux and Kylo) hadn't been complete dumb asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felice Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 4 hours ago, A True Kaniggit said: Damn, the Star Wars galaxy must be chock-full of garden worlds, to the point where perfectly livable planets are so abundant that even after thousands of years space exploration/colonization these things are laying around uninhabited for just anyone to snap up. Only 1% of the population is female; the birth rate is so low that any group or individual who wants a private planet for their own can just pick one, if they have access to a ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A True Kaniggit Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I think the point I am trying to get across is that if I led the First Order I would use my superb mastery of strategy/tactics to completely annihilate the Resistance. At which point I would rule the galaxy for at least 3 months before I would get drunk and fall to my death while trying to piss off the edge of my DeathStarLite (DSL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted February 13, 2019 Author Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, A True Kaniggit said: I think the point I am trying to get across is that if I led the First Order I would use my superb mastery of strategy/tactics to completely annihilate the Resistance. At which point I would rule the galaxy for at least 3 months before I would get drunk and fall to my death while trying to piss off the edge of my DeathStarLite. Sure. I'll drink to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 7 hours ago, Jace, Basilissa said: I meant before she crashes into him. As in 'his little ship could presumably travel 150 yards in 30 seconds if she didn't crash it.' I thought his plan of driving his vehicle inside of the technologically complicated machine's inner workings seemed like a good way to break it. Probably would have made sense to arc into the opening instead of driving through the beam though. I'm with Jace here. I put my money on Finn breaking that cannon. You crash into complicated machinery and it breaks. Haven't we witnessed plenty of successful suicide runs in Star Wars, even one about 20-30 minutes earlier in the same film? I picture Finn's run going something like a simulated bird strike on an aircraft engine where they launch frozen turkeys into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 21 hours ago, Ran said: The Ewoks are predators! They were going to eat Han! Clearly you've played Ewok Hunt mode on Star Wars Battlefront II... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 6 hours ago, A True Kaniggit said: I think the point I am trying to get across is that if I led the First Order I would use my superb mastery of strategy/tactics to completely annihilate the Resistance. At which point I would rule the galaxy for at least 3 months before I would get drunk and fall to my death while trying to piss off the edge of my DeathStarLite (DSL). Wasn't their best strategist killed after the FO fell for the Yo Momma joke trap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mother of The Others Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 13 hours ago, Darth Richard II said: I give up. You guys gave up when you called me a drunk racist. That's when you admitted defeat and lost the argument. The rest of this has just been repetitions of willful blindness. Collectively , you've repeatedly gotten the explanation of why finn's sacrifice mattered and replied, "none of that shows why finn's sacrifice mattered." It matters because you keep trying. Even when things seem hopeless. Imagine if the rebels had taken your advice and given up as soon as their cause looked hopeless. We would have never seen Episode III: A New Hope and all the movies that followed, including this one, because the alliance would've been wiped out before things ever got that far from lack of trying. You're arguing in favor of a Resistance that says, "Eh, we've resisted enough." This may have something to do with why we don't win wars anymore. Hiding away from knowledge, like the truth about this busted scene, means you can't then lay claim to the word "knowledge" to use as an underhanded jab against me. I'm a defender of Space Asians - - they deserve better than to have their groundbreaking foray into the stars be this moment of odd , ill conceived, poorly executed misplaced activism. The moviemakers wanted to include femme forward content and have minority actors shine in standout ways, they just had no inkling of how to do that, so we got what we got. An activism misfire that's spanned several films. You seem to be doing as Rose did by moving to save what you love, the franchise, while at the same time speeding its demise. Star Wars is burning its cred and you're saying you like the cozy warmth of the bonfire. Well I'm trying to save Star Wars too, I'm just trying harder and more correctly by demanding they do better than woeful. Otherwise, carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divica Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 27 minutes ago, The Mother of The Others said: You guys gave up when you called me a drunk racist. That's when you admitted defeat and lost the argument. The rest of this has just been repetitions of willful blindness. Collectively , you've repeatedly gotten the explanation of why finn's sacrifice mattered and replied, "none of that shows why finn's sacrifice mattered." It matters because you keep trying. Even when things seem hopeless. Imagine if the rebels had taken your advice and given up as soon as their cause looked hopeless. We would have never seen Episode III: A New Hope and all the movies that followed, including this one, because the alliance would've been wiped out before things ever got that far from lack of trying. You're arguing in favor of a Resistance that says, "Eh, we've resisted enough." This may have something to do with why we don't win wars anymore. Hiding away from knowledge, like the truth about this busted scene, means you can't then lay claim to the word "knowledge" to use as an underhanded jab against me. I'm a defender of Space Asians - - they deserve better than to have their groundbreaking foray into the stars be this moment of odd , ill conceived, poorly executed misplaced activism. The moviemakers wanted to include femme forward content and have minority actors shine in standout ways, they just had no inkling of how to do that, so we got what we got. An activism misfire that's spanned several films. You seem to be doing as Rose did by moving to save what you love, the franchise, while at the same time speeding its demise. Star Wars is burning its cred and you're saying you like the cozy warmth of the bonfire. Well I'm trying to save Star Wars too, I'm just trying harder and more correctly by demanding they do better than woeful. Otherwise, carry on. I don t think you should waste a lot of time arguing with people that loved TLJ. No matter what you say, even if you are absolutly right and give proof as long as you criticize the movie most of them will say you are wrong and dismiss what you say until they advance to the insulting clichés about why you don t like the movie. Sometimes you might be able to have a conversation but it is pretty rare. Usually it feels more like talking to a Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, The Mother of The Others said: You guys gave up when you called me a drunk racist. That's when you admitted defeat and lost the argument. The rest of this has just been repetitions of willful blindness. Collectively , you've repeatedly gotten the explanation of why finn's sacrifice mattered and replied, "none of that shows why finn's sacrifice mattered." It matters because you keep trying. First of all, I really don't care if you're drunk or not. I'm literally the last guy to complain about that. I also didn't call you racist in any way, but I don't think this was directed at me. Secondly, the point - that I was making at least, admittedly poorly because I was indeed drunk - was that ultimately, Finn's attempted sacrifice did not matter. They got out anyway. Therefore, adding in Rose choosing to save him seems like a fine thing to include as a character moment. If they had Finn's sacrifice be integral to escape that'd be one thing. And I think they should have used that opportunity to kill somebody off (though probably not Finn), as I've said. But since obviously they wanted to keep him around and were just using that to put a cherry on top of his bonding with Rose, I'm fine with it. 37 minutes ago, The Mother of The Others said: The moviemakers wanted to include femme forward content and have minority actors shine in standout ways, they just had no inkling of how to do that, so we got what we got. An activism misfire that's spanned several films. Uh, wtf? If you're being called racist, it's statements like these that are probably why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I don't recall calling you a racist, just pointing out your rambling incoherent post. But then of course you went and made some racists statements, so, yeah, you a racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 16 hours ago, DMC said: I think @divica just explained him/herself pretty damn clearly. The fuck is up with that Asian chick, right? Are you insinuating @divica is only irritated with Rose’s action because she’s Asian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Myrddin said: Clearly you've played Ewok Hunt mode on Star Wars Battlefront II... Gungan hunting is also fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said: Are you insinuating @divica is only irritated with Rose’s action because she’s Asian? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 @divica You dared to criticize an Asian character’s action as pointless in one situation. How dare you say keeping your friend from sacrificing themselves so that may give dozens of your other friends a chance of survival in a situation where it looks like without the sacrifice, all your friends will die is in any shape or form irrational. I mean if she wasn’t an Asian you’d be cheering on the decision as awesome. You truly are a racist. Also, a sexist because Rose is a woman. You disgusting loathsome bigot. I hate you. I’m joking. I found Rose’s action dumb as well. Don’t particularly like the character either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, DMC said: Yes. Oh ok just checking. Everyone who thinks Rose’ action was dumb is surely only thinking that because they’re racist. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divica Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 17 hours ago, divica said: he is talking that tlj defends that you should let 50 people die in order to save one. And the spock part is that aparently star trek says otherwise and spock has a line about that it is logical to sacrifice the 1 in order to save 50. 17 hours ago, divica said: finn was going to give the resistence a fighting chance... The only thing rose achieved was to kill everybody within minutes if luke hadn t arrived. Doesn t it make sense to sacrifice yourself in order to give your friends the chance to survive? Acording to rose no! lol But this was another of those moments that look great on screen but storywise make no sense... 17 hours ago, divica said: rose has a line where she says it to finn. that he shouldn t save them all by sacrificing himself. And there wasn t any other way to save the resistance acording to what they knew... 17 hours ago, DMC said: I think @divica just explained him/herself pretty damn clearly. The fuck is up with that Asian chick, right? Seriously, where did I coment about her being a woman or asian or whatever? Where have I written something that doesn t make sense or that can only be explained due to bias against asian women? Seriously, if you read what I wrote and your conclusion is that I have something against asian women then you have serious mental problems. I seriously think you people are sick. Anyone that criticizes TLJ is doing it doing it because they are racists, or sexist or whatever insult you can think of. You are incapable of reading comments criticising the movie and opening your mind that what is written might be correct or that it makes sense for some people. To you only neandertals would deslike the movie… You should seek help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divica Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said: @divica You dared to criticize an Asian character’s action as pointless in one situation. How dare you say keeping your friend from sacrificing themselves so that may give dozens of your other friends a chance of survival in a situation where it looks like without the sacrifice, all your friends will die. I mean if she wasn’t an Asian you’d be cheering on the decision as awesome. You truly are a racist. Also, a sexist because Rose is a woman. You disgusting loathsome bigot. I hate you. I’m joking. I found Rose’s action dumb as well. Don’t particularly like the character either. I think people here seriously cross the line into the absurdity. Anything is valid to invalid any critic that might be done about TLJ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 15 hours ago, DMC said: I thought someone shoulda died there, yeah. Pretty apt opportunity. Shoulda been Poe, really. It's like you get me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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